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Subject pretty much says it all. I am new to staight wall pistol reloading and need a set of 41 Rem dies. I do not understand the advantages of carbide vs titanium vs nitride.

Your input is appreciated.
 
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For straight wall pistol/revolver cartridges there is no better choice than Carbide. The need for lubrication for the others is a mess that is best avoided if possible. Just be sure that your brass is clean before resizing--even carbide dies can be scratched by excess grit on the brass.
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Actually I've always seen it as titanium nitride. I don't THINK it is two differnet options.

I have both I prefer Carbide. Both will owrk fine and allow you to size without lubrication. The carbide is actually a donut like insert in the bottom of the die. While it can be damaged it is darn hard to do it.

Titanium Nitride is a non stick coating applied to the inside of the sizer die. Like I say I have both but feel the carbide would last longer.


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carbide .. aka tungstun carbide or titantium nitride (TiN) ..

carbide is harder to make, TiN is a coating

TITANIUM alloy aint hard


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Hornady dies IIRC are titanium coated and work quite well.

You can't go wrong with the carbide as well.


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Actually other than plain steel dies there are three kinds.

Dies "coated" with Titanium Nitride are actually the newest kind, and the coating is slippery, but it isn't perfect.
These are sold mostly by Hornady.

The old classic of Tungsten Carbide the kind most often refered to as simply "Carbide", everyone makes Tungsten carbide dies for straight walled cartridges.

and the third kind which SFAIK only Redding makes is Titanium CARBIDE (very different from Titanium Nitride)
which are rather like Tungsten carbide, but the microstructure is smoother, the material itself is
less brittle and is generally a superior material
to Tungsten Carbide, but as only Redding has
made them....

Knowing what the different materials are....

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Carbide. No lube, no mess. Works forever.


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I have the Tit Nit Hornady dies for the .41 mag, and have no complaints thus far. They are not smooth as butter, but don't mar the brass whatsoever. fwiw
 
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Subject pretty much says it all. I am new to staight wall pistol reloading and need a set of 41 Rem dies. I do not understand the advantages of carbide vs titanium vs nitride.

Your input is appreciated.

The type of hard-surface you get is determined by the brand of dies you purchase. I wouldn't let that one feature overly influence my choice. You'll probably never know the difference.


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Carbide for me. I just wished there was carbide rifle dies. No lube.yea-yea
 
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Carbide for me. I just wished there was carbide rifle dies. No lube.yea-yea

If Hornady got innovative with the titanium nitride, it would be easy.


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Carbide for me. I just wished there was carbide rifle dies. No lube.yea-yea


Yeah, but you're looking at a different process for sizing straight wall pistol versus rifle brass. Different as in what's being "sized" with respect to dimensions and contours.
 
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I have carbide 45lc and 10MM ... TiN coated 500 jeffe ... lube them anyway


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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