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Subject pretty much says it all. I am new to staight wall pistol reloading and need a set of 41 Rem dies. I do not understand the advantages of carbide vs titanium vs nitride. Your input is appreciated. | ||
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For straight wall pistol/revolver cartridges there is no better choice than Carbide. The need for lubrication for the others is a mess that is best avoided if possible. Just be sure that your brass is clean before resizing--even carbide dies can be scratched by excess grit on the brass. ema39 | |||
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Actually I've always seen it as titanium nitride. I don't THINK it is two differnet options. I have both I prefer Carbide. Both will owrk fine and allow you to size without lubrication. The carbide is actually a donut like insert in the bottom of the die. While it can be damaged it is darn hard to do it. Titanium Nitride is a non stick coating applied to the inside of the sizer die. Like I say I have both but feel the carbide would last longer. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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carbide .. aka tungstun carbide or titantium nitride (TiN) .. carbide is harder to make, TiN is a coating TITANIUM alloy aint hard opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Hornady dies IIRC are titanium coated and work quite well. You can't go wrong with the carbide as well. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Actually other than plain steel dies there are three kinds. Dies "coated" with Titanium Nitride are actually the newest kind, and the coating is slippery, but it isn't perfect. These are sold mostly by Hornady. The old classic of Tungsten Carbide the kind most often refered to as simply "Carbide", everyone makes Tungsten carbide dies for straight walled cartridges. and the third kind which SFAIK only Redding makes is Titanium CARBIDE (very different from Titanium Nitride) which are rather like Tungsten carbide, but the microstructure is smoother, the material itself is less brittle and is generally a superior material to Tungsten Carbide, but as only Redding has made them.... Knowing what the different materials are.... AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Carbide. No lube, no mess. Works forever. A bad day at the range is better than a good day at work. | |||
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Thanks | |||
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I have the Tit Nit Hornady dies for the .41 mag, and have no complaints thus far. They are not smooth as butter, but don't mar the brass whatsoever. fwiw | |||
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The type of hard-surface you get is determined by the brand of dies you purchase. I wouldn't let that one feature overly influence my choice. You'll probably never know the difference. ________________________ "Every country has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre | |||
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Carbide for me. I just wished there was carbide rifle dies. No lube.yea-yea | |||
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If Hornady got innovative with the titanium nitride, it would be easy. ________________________ "Every country has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre | |||
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Yeah, but you're looking at a different process for sizing straight wall pistol versus rifle brass. Different as in what's being "sized" with respect to dimensions and contours. | |||
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I have carbide 45lc and 10MM ... TiN coated 500 jeffe ... lube them anyway opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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