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16 April 2009, 05:54
SGraves155
How wild are these? "SCI world record"
A TV show with hunting of wild hogs in Alabama. I've had tame hogs more alert than these things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...HVsU&feature=related

3 boars within an hour! It's OK, just don't show it as something demonstrating hunting of wild animals. Also, when the cutters miss the grinders, that should also disqualify an animal from record book consideration.


Steve
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16 April 2009, 06:33
DTala
Pitiful.

That hog did have world record EARS though....

I live in Alabama and those guys are an embaressment to Alabama hunters.

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16 April 2009, 06:58
CA Safari Hunter
Another SCI World Record broken! beer
16 April 2009, 11:11
<shankspony>
I watched that, and wished I hadn't.
16 April 2009, 11:49
Kabluewy
I wish I hadn't seen it too. That's very strange. I couldn't watch it all the way through. I consider myself lucky that I couldn't get audio. I'm originally from the South, but I don't know people like that.

KB


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16 April 2009, 17:38
Shof
A "Semi-Pass-Through" bowshot? Isn't that like being "Semi-Pregnant?" Either it is or it isn't!
17 April 2009, 01:43
Whitworth
"Elusive and smart" -- that's laughable! Those are farm escapees. Actually quite pathetic.



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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17 April 2009, 02:30
D99
Farm escapees?

Bullshit!

Farm stock turned loose, for the sake of stupid bowhunters to be macho over. Too bad they didn't still have the eartags, I wonder how many still had lip tatoos.
17 April 2009, 02:34
D99
Watched the second part of it, he has eartags!

What a bunch of idiots.

I believe that fair chase is one of those things that a person can only decide for themselves. But this was a farse of the highest degree.
17 April 2009, 02:44
blaser93
Thats Called Shooting Not Hunting
17 April 2009, 06:54
SGraves155
Even worse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...K86Y&feature=channel

Would love to see this one mounted in the Law office!!


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17 April 2009, 08:03
Lorenzo
Imagine sharing a camp with those two... Roll Eyes

L
17 April 2009, 08:04
Whitworth
quote:
Originally posted by D99:
Watched the second part of it, he has eartags!

What a bunch of idiots.

I believe that fair chase is one of those things that a person can only decide for themselves. But this was a farse of the highest degree.


And big, ole floppy domestic ears! Laughable!



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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17 April 2009, 08:50
CA Safari Hunter
White Ghost or someone’s 4H project?

Hit him 12 times? I saw 2. One was in its back, and at what, 10 yards? That’s some great shooting!!! I’m glad you ran out of bullets or you probably would have shot the camera man.

The sad part is – the guy is probably in the SCI book with the pig… thumbdown
17 April 2009, 16:14
Whitworth
What a farce! Oh, and a lousy shot! He "finally moved on to the .270" as the .30-30 wasn't enough -- LOL! jumping



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
17 April 2009, 16:17
Wendell Reich
That is just sad.
18 April 2009, 03:26
D99
We had a 1200 pound Yorkshire sow named Nelly that looked a lot like that white ghost pig.

I wonder if they were littermates?

What a crock of bullshit.
18 April 2009, 03:51
Jefffive
It would be more sporting to shoot them in the auction ring...


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
18 April 2009, 15:03
DFSW
Not only did they let them free from the farm, they filled the trough with valium first!
18 April 2009, 19:09
Whitworth
quote:
Originally posted by DFSW:
Not only did they let them free from the farm, they filled the trough with valium first!


LOL! Yes indeed! jumping



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
18 April 2009, 19:59
Bear Kodiak
Pathetic! Thanks SCI for not only protecting my hunting rights, but for also giving me a much clearer understanding of what your definition of hunting really is. You will not be receiving my membership dues any time soon.
18 April 2009, 22:56
Bull Snake
Well isn't that special!

On a positive note, the truck has a nice paint job.

Lets not be so quick to accuse SCI, the "guide" uses their name and claims it to be a likely new record, nowhere does he claim it was actually scored by SCI.

My personal reaction is a deep seated desire to reach out and slap the grin off guide boys face.

The ghost pig looks suspiciously like a yorkshire if I remember correctly from my days as a farm boy, we had a neighbor with one that went about 700 pounds, so big he had to be limited to breeding older sows, the younger smaller ones would have been crushed. I wish I knew then he was a potential world record.

Fifteen shots by Mr. Lawyer and the pig is still running strong, perhaps he needs a little practice shooting?

The lawyer is a good idea on guide boys part, makes the lawyer a party to the fraud.

Did you all hear the reference to the gate they had to go through, free range pet pigs behind a fence, not exactly eligible for any record other than the kind one gets from a court of law.


Elmer Keith. Enough said.
19 April 2009, 08:16
dustoffer
Too old to breed, too big to feed, and too tame to call it hunting.


An old pilot, not a bold pilot, aka "the pig murdering fool"
19 April 2009, 11:57
mike7mm08
And here I thought I could not dislike lawyers more than I already do. Mad
19 April 2009, 12:37
Kamo Gari
Whew, what a hunt! Did you see that determined charge after the kid shot it? Bone chilling, the way it semi-jogged 5 feet in their direction after getting shot, wasn't it? Those men should be damned proud of their accomplishment! So, when does the tossing the bag of kittens in the creek episode air?

"When I saw him hit them break lights, I knowed sumptin' was afoot!" knife


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19 April 2009, 18:38
Whitworth
quote:
Originally posted by Kamo Gari:
Whew, what a hunt! Did you see that determined charge after the kid shot it? Bone chilling, the way it semi-jogged 5 feet in their direction after getting shot, wasn't it? Those men should be damned proud of their accomplishment! So, when does the tossing the bag of kittens in the creek episode air?

"When I saw him hit them break lights, I knowed sumptin' was afoot!" knife


LOL! You crack me up! You are so right. dancing



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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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19 April 2009, 23:27
Bull Snake
Kamo Gari,

They don't drown the kittens, they feed them to the "wild hogs" so they have a taste for meat and will go into a blood lust fury at the very sight of a hunter, er shooter, ah jackass?


Elmer Keith. Enough said.
20 April 2009, 00:13
frank4570
Unfortunately, the anti-hunting/PETA types sometimes do have a leg to stand on. This video proves it. And gives the antis ammo.

So, if I turn my chickens loose in the backyard and shoot them with the shotgun, am I hunting?






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20 April 2009, 00:54
Shof
I guess it all depends on who's television show you're on!
20 April 2009, 04:04
Weathered
Private land ? if it is I guess it is just a matter of different strokes no different than shooting cattle in a stall.

Does anyone else suspect that the grinders on that hogs jaw have been removed/destroyed a few years ago by someone to allow the tusk to grow into its jaw as it did. If someone did that to create some sort of record they are sick.

Just saw the second video ... shakes head and walks away .....

While we are discussing bullshit vids here is another from New Zealand put up on youtube.
Trophy Chamois Shot In Paddock On Farm

The trophy chamois taken in this video was caught by a helicopter in the mountains and dropped into an enclosed field for this video. The whole vid is BS like a lot of SCI "trophies"
20 April 2009, 05:13
Shof
quote:
Originally posted by Weathered:

The trophy chamois taken in this video was caught by a helicopter in the mountains and dropped into an enclosed field for this video. The whole vid is BS like a lot of SCI "trophies"


I'm curious, do you know this to be first hand and true or is it something that you heard from a friend who's brother-in-law heard it from a guy at work who's father's buddy knows it to be a fact!

The reason I ask is that I've heard "facts" that were nowhere close to what actually happened. Then again, I've heard the exact opposite.

So now if I hear something, unless it's first-hand information, I discount most.

I fair-chase hunted and shot a nice whitetail in a farmer's pasture, but by the time the story made the rounds, it turned out I shot it in a pen!
20 April 2009, 05:48
SGraves155
quote:
Originally posted by Weathered:


Does anyone else suspect that the grinders on that hogs jaw have been removed/destroyed a few years ago by someone to allow the tusk to grow into its jaw as it did. If someone did that to create some sort of record they are sick.


weathered, the grinders may still be there, but on an occasional hog, the cutters will slip behind the grinders instead of in front of them the dentist would call it "poor occlusion". Wink This pict is of a hog I killed years ago whose cutters missed his grinders:


But on second thought, you could be correct, as the grinders on the video hog are either very small or gone.


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20 April 2009, 07:37
Weathered
quote:
Originally posted by Shof:
I'm curious, do you know this to be first hand and true or is it something that you heard from a friend who's brother-in-law heard it from a guy at work who's father's buddy knows it to be a fact!

The reason I ask is that I've heard "facts" that were nowhere close to what actually happened. Then again, I've heard the exact opposite.

So now if I hear something, unless it's first-hand information, I discount most.

I fair-chase hunted and shot a nice whitetail in a farmer's pasture, but by the time the story made the rounds, it turned out I shot it in a pen!


No problem about shooting on private land or pasture especailly large tracts some of that hunting is as tricky as hunting in the wild.

I live locally to this farm, I know the farm and the backround to the video. I know outfitters have captured from the wild and released chamois into enclosures on this farm. With the correct permits it is entirely legal to catch a wild chamois and put it in the paddock to be shot. I have confirmed the location of the paddocks in the video with my friend he is related to the owners family he also has identified that paddock the chamois was shot in. He has shot hares there.
If the chamois walked into that paddock he had to leave the mountain and jump through 6 or 7 seperate fences and go past the homestead depending on the route he took.
It is good to ask questions though, I can answer to scrutiny can the hunter in that video do the same ?
21 April 2009, 10:06
bucko
These videos are simply amazing! How in the world can grown men act so blatantly assinine?

White ghost my ass, things have sunk to a new low.


(When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.)
21 April 2009, 16:17
Whitworth
quote:
Originally posted by bucko:
These videos are simply amazing! How in the world can grown men act so blatantly assinine?

White ghost my ass, things have sunk to a new low.


It's called ignorance -- on the part of the hunter. Some "outfitters" will draw in folks like that lawyer who just doesn't know better. I'll bet the big-game lawyer payed a pretty penny for the "privilege" of wacking a domestic pig.



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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

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27 April 2009, 11:23
Patricio Gaudiano
pathetic.
27 April 2009, 23:37
AB Joint Outfitters
If we tried to pull that crap we would be out of business in no time.

"cutters" my ass! That hog looked about as dangerous as a lab on prozac.

I have a really exciting angus or herford hunt just like this if anyone is interested holycow !! If you are really in the mood for some danger we might be able to get a legless hog. Watch out.. He can scoot!


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29 April 2009, 05:47
<shankspony>
Just as a side note guy's Kiwi hunters are trying to prevent a particularly unethical practice from becomeing legal in our country.
Theres a petition you can sign at the link provided if you agree with us.

http://www.gopetition.com/peti...icopter-hunting.html

Thanks in advance
SP
01 May 2009, 22:39
Kamo Gari
quote:
Originally posted by AB Joint Outfitters:


"cutters" my ass! That hog looked about as dangerous as a lab on prozac.


Nice! Smiler


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01 May 2009, 23:56
larryshores
They were almost assuredly turn out from the pig pen.

We have a ton of wild hogs here. While one can frequently stalk then, it is damn near impossible to nonchalantly walk up to them with little regard for cover or noise.

The one thing I will defend them on is the teeth. I have probably seen 20 wild hogs over the years with abnormal teeth for one reason or another. It can be caused by many things from abnormalities to broken teeth not touching. It is entirely possible.

I once saw a hippo the same way.