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257 Roberts/120gr Nosler partitions @2800fps. How would that do for piggies? I was told my .270/150gr. would be a little "light" for African plains game, but it did a good job on a big old cow elk. Of course, I think a .308/30-06/165gr. might be better. What do you guys think? Thanks. | ||
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I think if you put it in the boiler room, or head-neck, you will do just fine. Some heavier calibers might give you a bit more leaway though. It is my experience that hogs sometimes don't leave as good a blood trail as I'd like, so you need to make really good hits to get good results, perhaps even more so than other game. Lost one recently myself, shooting it on the move at 15 to 20 yds. with a .30/06 from a Win. 1895 from a high tree stand. I'm thinking I hit it in the back probably taking out one lung. Never found a drop of blood or the hog. Several years ago I shot one at about 75 yds in the shoulder with a 130 gr slug from a .270. Never found any blood, finally found the hog dead on a gametrail about 100 yds. from the bullet"s impact. | |||
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.257 Roberts + hog = dead hog ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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My exact sentiments. You have to place your shots well (this goes for every caliber, though), but a shot to the head, neck, or boiler room will result in a dead pig....... "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Excellent choice, don't expect exits. My 257 shoots so accuractely that it is my preferred moonlight gun.. BTs are NOT your friend in the bob opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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It will work great for pigs. Shoot them about two inches below the ear on a line between the ear and shoulder. This will sever the spine and they will drop and paddle and be DRT and you will not have to track them. GWB | |||
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My 257 Roberts has put down some 200# plus pigs, DRT. 100 grn Sierra GK and Pro Hunters do the trick. As stated above, pigs don't leave much of a blood trail do mto hide and fat closing up around hole. CNS shots to head or spine will eliminate the need to trail hogs. Founding member of the 7MM STW club Member of the Texas Cull Hunters Association | |||
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My input is that if you stick a hog anywhere from the neck to just back of the front shoulder with that caliber and bullet and you will have a very dead hog. My pick would be tight behind the shoulder a quarter of the way up his body, and i bet you find your hog within 75 yards at that most. If you want him down right there then a shoulder shot or neck shot would be in order. I would not be one ounce afraid of a shoulder shot with that caliber and bullet, I have shot much bigger game than that with the same combination and it kills all out of proportion to what you might think. (When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.) | |||
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>>>>> was told my .270/150gr. would be a little "light" for African plains game,>>>>>>> The guy who told you this was absolutely wrong! IMHO, 99% of problems with putting African antelope down result from bad bullet placement caused by heavy-recoiling calibers that most hunters don't shoot well. Your favorite deer rifle (.270 included) will efficiently kill everything up to and including eland and zebra if you put the proper bullet in the proper place. Bill Quimby | |||
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The 257 Roberts with 120 grain bullets and proper shot placement will get the job done quite well. I prefer larger calibers in nearly all my hunting but have taken down uite a few animals with my wife's 257. The only word of caution or point I somewhat disagree with in using the 257 on larger pigs is that I would probably avoid shoulder shot, especially on the larger boars 200 pounds and up, that layer of tissue that builds up on their shoulders is pretty tough, and I am not real sure that 120 grain bullet out of the Roberts would have enough energy to get thru it at 100 yards or over. JMO. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Great point and sound advice! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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+1 Absolutely right. Good bullet plus good bullet placement will kill then dead. IMO the "toughness" of african plains game is quite overrated. Like anything, including a chimpmunk, you have to hit 'em where it will kill 'em. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I'm real sure that a nosler partition, which is what he is apparently using will punch through it an kill that hog DEAD. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I prefer a heavier rifle for the big ones. But, the partition is a fine bullet in my opinion, and I have taken some hogs with Partition Golds -- but in a slightly bigger caliber........ "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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If a 30-30 bullet bounces off a pig, a 120gr 25 caliber would perform even worse. Unless you put one in his eye. | |||
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I disagree, a 30/30 will certainly give sufficent penatration from a broadside shot within reasonable range with a shoulder hit to make a kill. It most certainly will not give you an exit, and may or may not leave you a suffient blood trail. I would expect better penatration from a .25 cal 120 partician at 2800 fps. Others will disagree, but that is MHO. | |||
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It has been my experiance with a thirty thirty that a shoulder shot hog requires no tracking (When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.) | |||
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I guess that depends on the terrain you're hunting. I wouldn't expect too many bang flops with a shoulder hit, on a mature boar, they could go a small piece, no problem in open country, could be trouble in the thickets I generally find myself. | |||
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Your 257 roberts/partition combo should do just fine on hogs. "Let me start off with two words: Made in America" | |||
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"If a .30-30 bounces off a pig..." ??? That, sir, is ridiculous. May I suggest that you need to actually shoot some pigs. The number of hogs that have been killed, and are killed, with .30-30's is...a damned bunch ! | |||
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Amen to that! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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