Well, i reserve the right to get smarter -- and I did this week -- I have used many kinds of scopes for rifles in my life, and often I felt "well, this is good enough" .. though I have been using nikon glass for my preference for about 10 years -- i think you get better glass, dollar for dollar, than leupold -- buck master vs the leupold II line, prostaff vs the III line...

and this week I got a monarch scope ..

it aint THAT much more than a prostaff, how much better, really could it be?

Well, i'll likely have several prostaffs for sale over this coming year - pretty reasonable, actually, as they are good glass ...

but WOW, the edge clarity and crispness, and edge distortion (free, that is) is amazing

I too like Nikon glass for the money, and I love the Japanese Nikon scopes. That said the 2 new style Monarchs I bought when first introduced had inconsistent movement and would not hold zero over time. I still have 2 Monarch Gold scopes and a Monarch X tactical, but the rest I could not trust and have gone down the road. Just one persons observation.

The 1st Nikon Monarch 5-20x40 I bought had the same zero holding problems as yours. I sent it back to Nikon and they replaced it (it took a few months...) with their new model 5-20x40 SF M NP.

Zero holding is ok now and it has served me wel so far. However, I can't say the optics are as sharp as my Swarovski or Leupold Vari X-III.


Rem 700 Police .308 Win + Nikon Monarch 5-20x40


Blaser R96 JagdMatch .222 Rem + Swarovski 6-24x50


AICS (Rem 700) .308 Win + Swarovski 5-30x50 P


Ruger MkIII VT + Lothar Walther Match bbl. .308 Win + Leupold Vari X - III 6,5-20x40

I respect Nikon's glass and optics generally (as someone who doesn't buy a lot, I've owned this brand in a camera, two binos and one scope). However, I think they know more about making cameras and binos than scopes. The Monarch 4-16x42 I've got has great clarity but more tunnel vision than I've seen anywhere else.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
I respect Nikon's glass and optics generally (as someone who doesn't buy a lot, I've owned this brand in a camera, two binos and one scope). However, I think they know more about making cameras and binos than scopes. The Monarch 4-16x42 I've got has great clarity but more tunnel vision than I've seen anywhere else.

I could not agree more. Plus, Nikon sport optic's customer service is beyond a joke, and Nikon Camera is so anti hunting I wouldn't consider buying anything Nikon anyway.

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I could not agree more. Plus, Nikon sport optic's customer service is beyond a joke, and Nikon Camera is so anti hunting I wouldn't consider buying anything Nikon anyway.

There is no reference to rifle scopes at either Nikon.USA or Nikon.com, not even a link. I think they are ashamed of hunters and shooters, but they certainly want our money.

I do not like Nikon for that reason. I work PT at a big-box outdoor store behind the gun counter, and I never, ever, offer a Nikon to a customer. I will if they ask to see one, of course, but I will not suggest one.

I have a couple Pre-Monarch Nikon's and I like them a lot. One made the trip to Africa on my R700 30-06 and it performed admirably.

As I have gotten older though, what I appreciate most about the newer scopes, is the fast focus eye piece. It makes sharing with my grandson a whole lot easier!

I just bought two Nikon Pro Staff 7's from LL Bean last night. They are supposed to be here next week.

One is going on a 700 in 7mm and the other one on a 308. We'll see how they go.

$350 for the 3-12, and $300 for the 3-10.

I might put the 3-10 on the 375.

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Originally posted by k-22hornet:

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I could not agree more. Plus, Nikon sport optic's customer service is beyond a joke, and Nikon Camera is so anti hunting I wouldn't consider buying anything Nikon anyway.

There is no reference to rifle scopes at either Nikon.USA or Nikon.com, not even a link. I think they are ashamed of hunters and shooters, but they certainly want our money.

I do not like Nikon for that reason. I work PT at a big-box outdoor store behind the gun counter, and I never, ever, offer a Nikon to a customer. I will if they ask to see one, of course, but I will not suggest one.

uhmmm... wrong website

http://www.nikonsportoptics.co...ts/scopes/index.page