I'm totally unfamiliar with Lisenfeld scopes. Would appreciate any knowledge of their reputation, quality, and real world values on today's market.

Stroebel doesn't mention them but I have seen old ones at gunshows and they seemed OK, probably also-ran German optics. They are also on the internet and include 3-9x variables, so may not all be 'antiques'.

If I came across a really clean reticle-movement model, I might give it go.

Here's an old post about them:

https://forums.accuratereloadi...8266/xsl/print_topic

Those 3-12× variables would almost certainly be image-movement, which is another word for junk IMHO.

Apart from Zeiss/Hensoldt and eventually Nickel's, very few 4x-multiple scopes were made in the reticle-movement days.

Impacts moving between power settings generally comes from second-focal-plane reticles with erector sets on the objective side, whereby any slop in the power scroll can create parallax or changing alignment between target picture and reticle.

Though Weaver and Unertl had made SFP fixed-power scopes, I don't believe anyone sold SFP variables before constantly centred reticles.

Why do I think image-movement variables are junk? Because even when their components are assembled tight enough not to give trouble when new, wear and tear over time is almost certain to bring those impact variations with changing power.