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Anyone catch the show about Royal antelope last night? I had it on while reloading so I caught bits and pieces (I record that one anyway) but I did hear Steve Kobrine talking. Met him at one of Luke Samaras's camps some time ago. Guy is an animal with a bow. | ||
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Steve is an animal with his bow and mouth. That kid can talk the hind leg off a wildebeest. However good bloke and he shot a Roan in Munyamadzi with Thor at well over 100 yards. Thor claims the Roan heard the arrow and turned towards it. Back then it was probably the world record free ranging bow hunted Roan and so and so. You could stick up a cigarette packet at a hundred yards where you wanted and that boy would hit it. He impressed the hell out of the staff. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Too many variables to go wrong at that distance with any bow for anyone Not impressive in my book, definitely irresponsible shooting Not meaning to put that guy and his skills down but he should know better than that " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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A 100 yard Bow shot is the equivalent of a thousand yard rifle shot. How DISRESPECTFUL!!! | |||
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'Now, if we can just bring Sullivan, canned Lion, and Capstick in here while discussing tips I'm sure this thread will make 11 pages by tomorrow. Cheers Jim  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Yep " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Nah I reckon 9 pages.  ------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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I know bugger all about bow hunting mate but I suspect Steve is one of the best out there. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Kobrine, Nesbitt, and Adams all rate up there. | |||
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There lies the problem of putting people on pedestal Plain and simple but I don't expect people to always get that fact Anyway, if I didn't know anything about bows and bow hunting I wouldn't say a peep Enough said " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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You forgot .45/70 for DG! "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Agree with Ferguson being mentioned. Also, you have to put John Frost in the mix as well. | |||
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His daughter is doing quite the job as well. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I don't know about Frost, but saying Ferguson is a great archer is like saying Jerry Miculek is a great shooter. Both true, but great hunters? I don't think so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyIq9FdTgwM | |||
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That is what I have been saying all along " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Just to be fair, I am not denigrating them, but if you want to be a great shot, you have to practice, so much so it doesn't leave much time to do things like hunt. Kobrine is not only a great archer, but a great hunter as well. In terms of pure bowhunting, I think Nesbitt might be the best (due to the breadth of what he has hunted), but no one made me the judge. | |||
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I hear you I look ok at these long shots at game animals simply as irresponsible ego building endeavor with wide audience going Wow " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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I think to be fair these chaps are competent at such ranges and long shots are not the norm. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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I don't know anything about bow hunting. But, I bet that the majority of bow hunters are no different than the majority of rifle hunters. Most are reasonably good, some are very good and some are extremely good at shooting. And some should never go hunting at all! All the of the extremely good shots I know will not take a long shot if they could avoid it. But when there is no choice, they make it work. May be bow hunters follow the same rule? | |||
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Good point Saeed " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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I agree with you boarkiller on the long range TV shows - but rather than ego, they are mostly a marketing effort, ie, buy the XYZ rifle and scope and you can do this too. In the short time I met Kobrine, he struck me as relatively modest (in fact, I don't remember him being a braggart at all); you don't see him making TV shows showing long range archery shots. When it comes to the image of hunters on TV, there are lots of things we can work on in addition to excessively long shots, including showing grossly obese hunters climbing out of truck, making the "stalk" (of ten yards) to make the shot, the whooping high fives, etc. | |||
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A 60 yard Archery shot at an Animal is a LONG SHOT and should ONLY be taken by an EXCELLENT Bowman. Most good Archers try to keep their shots at 40 yards or LESS. I see IDIOTS shooting and wounding Deer size game at 70 yards and it makes me sick!!! | |||
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OK, so I have to share a story about a friend of mine. Mostly I rifle hunt, mostly in Africa and mostly with a 338 or 470 double. So while I love big bores and Africa both, I do bow hunt a bit and my friend and I were hog hunting in Texas last May. Night hunting and we were expected to sit in a tripod from 6 PM to midnight, with a feeder at about 25 yards away. Reasonable setup for a shot with a bow, especially when the pig is on your side of the feeder. On the second night, it was ugly - rain and lightning - so we each backed off to rifle blinds. As we headed out in the rain, my friend asked our guide where to shoot the pig since he had only a 223. Guide said “hit ‘em in the ear and they won’t go anywhere.” You may can see where this is going… But no pigs came to his feeder on night #2. On night #3, weather was good so we’re back up in our tripods with bows. Now my friend is a disciplined shot, really strong, and practices a lot with his old compound bow But has very little actual hunting experience. So that night a good size boar comes in and stops at 25 yards. My friend - knowing no better – naively does just what he was told. Sitting in a tripod, he shot that boar right in the ear canal. Yup, didn’t go anywhere ! Darndest shot I’ve seen on a bowhunt. And he had no idea what he had done in terms of how hard a shot that one was to pull off. The guide and I just stood there shaking our heads. Nice pig, though! | |||
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I talked to Steve Kobrine quite by accident when he was a very young man. I actually called his Dad as a reference for a safari operator I was interested in. Steve's Dad was not available but Steve was there and I spoke to him at length about the safari operation. I came away thinking Steve had a great deal of experience for a young man and was probably an exceptional archer. Fast forward a few years and I saw an article in Safari Magazine about Steve taking a sitatunga with Johnny Du Plooy. I didn't remember the details but he got his sitatunga and there was some fancy bow shooting. In '12 when I hunted with Johnny Du Plooy I asked him about hunitng with Steve. Johnny said he was an incredible shot but when the crew saw him hit a pop can at 80 yards they expected he wanted to shoot at animals at that range making for some confusion through the safari. I think the sitatunga was the #1 ever taken with a bow. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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True " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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In the mid nineties I was sharing a campfire with a most interesting dude in the Matetsi Area. He was a PH whose speciality was hunting elephant and apparently was the chap that the big name outfitters called upon when needed. He told me that he loved to spot and stalk with a bow and whenever he had spare time that is what he did. He then went on and mentioned that one time he was in Chewore (in those days you could not hunt with a bow there apparently) and was sitting around the campfire at night chatting when a bushbuck came out of the bush (jesse?) with an arrow sticking out of it ... Busted. I can not remember if he ever told me what the fine was ???? | |||
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Howard Hill was the world's greatest archer. Look him up some time. Did a movie called"Tembo" around 1956,IIRC. And he did it all with a long bow and handmade all of his own equipment. There was none commercially available back then. | |||
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MY OPINION: Being an archer or marksman does not make you a hunter, but you must be proficient with your equipment to be good, ethical hunter. A long range shot for skilled rifle hunter that is within his personal abilities gives him more options while hunting. The range of most bow hunters should be limited by factors beyond their accuracy range. Because you can shoot a pop can at 60 yds, doesn't mean you should try to take all game at 60 yds. THE FACTS: A bullet flies at 2 to 3 times the speed of sound and hits it's target before it hears the source and has time to react. An arrow flies at 1/4 the speed of sound so the targeted animal will hear the shot and have time to react before the arrow reaches its mark. The longer the shot, the longer they have time to react. If you stretch this limit, your target will no-longer be where you shot. Larger animals {elk or eland} will react slower than smaller animals {deer or impala}. This increases your range on those animals. An alert animal looking in your direction decreases you range over a contently feeding animal. Wind, light, noise, and other environmental conditional will play in also. THE MATH: Sound travels at 1,125 fps. A fast hunting arrow is about 300 fps. At 20 yds, a deer will hear your shot in 1/20th of a second, your arrow will have traveled 16 feet, and will need to go 44 more in the next 3/20th of a second to reach its mark before the deer can move. If everything is right, your odds are good. Move out to 40 yds, not a hard shot for anyone who practices, the odds shift. The arrow will only be 32 feet out with 88 to go in 3/10th of a second. Plenty of time to react. May still hit, may not be where you were aiming. Once read an article by a hunting neurologist that a bow would need to be over 700 fps to keep an alert deer from jumping the string at 20 yds. | |||
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On the flip-side, one bow hunting friend of mine can group tighter at 100yards than another of my rifle hunting friends can with a rifle at the same range(!)... of course, that is on a static target... | |||
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You must have terrible shots for friends then! | |||
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I second that, on many of tournaments here in Montana, I see guys shooting like gods past sixty yards But hunting situations are different as most of us know it And yes, on occasion you hear about amazing shot, thing is you never hear about all the ones that had potential to be amazing and end up losing the animal Found several of them over the years, mostly frontal shots - worst shots attempted ever no matter what anybody says... I take archery as traditional bows only, rest is mechanical devices no different then guns Basically, they are in same category as all the other weapons except bows with string And I'm not trying to bring anyone down, just showing difference of opinion " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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