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Have any of you used the 1.25-4x Accu-Point scope in Africa? I was thinking of getting one to put on my 375 specifically for a leopard hunt. Any thoughts on that? I figure that combo would also be good for buff along with an iron sighted rifle for an early season hunt in the jess. Would you go with the amber or red triangle? _______________________________  | ||
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Have not used mine in Africa, but used one yesterday morning on my Searcy .450/.400 to take a doe at 100 yards and it worked great. I have the red triangle and it is very bright. Mike | |||
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I have been thinking of using the Trijicon for leopard also, but in a variable with a large objective for greater light gathering. But I have read several posts about how the scope doesnt stand up to recoil, so am hesitant. Would welcome any actual experience with a large bore | |||
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What is a 450/400? | |||
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Also known as the .400 Nitro Express. Hornady is now making ammo for this old cartridge. http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=483 Mike | |||
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It's something really nice that I don't have.  I hear you on the larger variable but my point of view is that the Trijicon is kind of like an optical express sight...at least that is my intended purpose for it. _______________________________ | |||
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MJ - Just wondering how many rounds you have fired under the Trijicon with the 450/400? Recoil effect on a scope if any is a legitimate question and concern. I haven't heard one way or the other about how they hold up so any and all "actual" info would be helpful. Thanks!! Larry Sellers
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Larry, not many. I have probably shot between 20 and 30 rounds with the scope mounted. So far so good, but as you noted that is not a statistically meaningful sample. I do not find the .450/.400 to be a particularly hard recoiler. I wonder if anyone has been using the scopes on any of the magnum cartridges like a .300 Win Mag, or .300 Wby. I would guess that if a scope could hold up to that sort of sharp recoil, it should do fine with the big push recoil of the bigger bores. Mike | |||
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Also, let's keep in mind that a lot of these are ending up on AR10's and that have a fast recoil and lots of muzzle blast. _______________________________ | |||
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I have one on my 10/22, and I have to say that the optics are pretty poor, given the price -- but I do like the recticle idea. I just wish they had gone ahead and charged enough to put decent glass in it. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | |||
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Which one do you have on your 10/22 and what color reticle? What is it about the glass that you don't like? _______________________________ | |||
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Someone told me they tried one on 458 Lott and it would not hold up to the recoil. | |||
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I'll double check, but it was the smallest one they had. It has the orange reticle -- that bit works very well, it just doesn't have a clear image -- seems to be pretty distorted. I'm also not entirely happy that it's not waterproof, but I'm not sure if that's possible w. their design. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | |||
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Distorted you say...I would guess you had one with problems. Nobody is selling distorted optics on purpose these days (not even the cheap scopes). _______________________________ | |||
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the 400 Nitro is the 400 Black Powder Express with smokeless powder. the 450/400 is called the 400 jeffery is it not? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Yep, my bad. Mike | |||
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I'll contact them, and see -- anyone can have something make it by QC. If I get good results, I'll update And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. | |||
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The question "What is a 450/400" was retorical. I have one in a Ruger #1 but haven't tried a Trijicon on it and have stuck to my favorite Leupold 1X4. | |||
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Great Scope. been playing with one on a .458 lott c/o Trijicon and african hunter magazine. There is a field report on a couple of Leupolds, a Nikkon monarch and the Trijicon. All great scopes. Have decided to stay with a Leupold 1.5-5 on my 9,3, but it is a close call. | |||
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That's very helpful. So they are holding up for you on the recoil. Close call between the Leupie and the Trij...that says it for me. I will have to get one for the 375. I just can't put a scope on the Lott but I know some like to do that. _______________________________ | |||
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I have a trijicon on my .458 win mag and it's holding up just fine. Use Leupold quick disconnect rings and bases and have no issue with them "loosening" up either. Have only put in the neighborhood of 60 or 70 rounds though it but love the scope and the recoil doesn't seem to be an issue. DRSS Sabatti 450\400 NE Merkel 140-2 500 NE | |||
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I owned one and used it on my loaner rifle for a couple of years before passing it on to a mate who does alot of leopard hunts. Held up fine on my .458 Lott, and has survived African roads and hunting for the last four seasons on top of a .378. Good scope - gave good service. In General I would say that in 'scopes for Africa you have Trijicon, Leupold, Nikkon and Nightforce (counting only the top end models from Leupold and Nikkon). I like the high end Zeiss 1-4 but they are out of my price range especially when compared to the new 1.1-8 Leupold or even the 1-6 Swarovski. | |||
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And that--is THE test-- My .378 was a "Scope eater"-- If the Trij has withstood "the magnums magnum" it is most likely a good unit-- DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I have the 1Xto4X with the german cross hair not the accupoint on my 416 rigby. So far it has held up well and is great for the low light conditions. My last hunt in the field I shot 72 rounds through it with no change in point of impact. I have shot a bunch of buffalo with it in low light as well as bright light conditions. I use it pig hunting here in texas as well, Yes,, a 416 is overkill on pigs but when those vermin are rooting up your yard and your wifes flowerbeds,, and you have to fix them back instead of going to hunt or fish!! I splatter everyone of them I see. So far this month I have killed 7 in my yard. I have probably shot close to 400 rounds with the scope on it with no issues so far. I like the Trijicon. you can make more money, you can not make more time | |||
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Yukon As you know, Trijicon has been our scope sponsor on TRACKS for over 6 years, so we have used them with more regularity than probably anyone you will talk to-all models and all conditions. While there are lots of options out there( and good options) I think you will be very happy with the Trijicon product. The post takes a bit of mental adjustment, at least it did for me, but once you get comfortable you will find NOTHING gets you on target quicker than that post with the triangle sight. For second shots on moving buff it is just amazing. Just mounted a new 3x9 Trijicon on a .416 for water buff in Australia in August and brown bear in Alaska in Sept. Hope you enjoy the scope, let us know. Dave Fulson | |||
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I splurged a few years ago and got a Trijicon for my .375 and it has survived several hunts in Cameroon, CAR, Tanzania, South Africa and Texas. Never had any problem with it at all. Did very well in the rain forest as well and never fogged up. Wish I could afford to get more to put on my company guns in Tanzania. Just like any other product though, some will like it and some won't. | |||
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I personally don't like them. For one thing there is no detent to hold the ocular end in place and the 2 on the safari I was on were badly out of focus more times than not. Also, being able to see the reticle in very poor light gave a false sense of security. One takes shots that shouldn't be taken..and at a time when the safari crew can't see what is going on. Maybe I'm old fashioned (my wife says I am) but I just didn't think they were so hot. Rich Elliott Rich Elliott Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris | |||
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They have worked well for me on a 416 Rigby. I prefer the green triangle-very visible in bright light, low light and no light. Have about 100 rounds through it with no problems or point of aim shifting. Has been on one elephant hunt and one leopard. It is a 1-4 30mm. ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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Can someone please post a photo of what the view looks like through such a scope in poor light - like a leopard blind. I do not know of anyone selling these scopes in NZ. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Not sure Yukon posts here much anymore. This thread is over 3 years old. "....but to protest against all hunting of game is a sign of softness of head, not of soundness of heart." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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I've had one on my Chapuis for a couple years. I've got more than 300 rounds through it since I put it on. Still works. Mine is bright and clear. No complaints. Of course it's all back yard shooting. Things usally break when you are far from home and it's important that they work. They seldom break in the backyard. I have the old yellow triangle. It was the only thing available. I would have preferred the German cross hairs, but they weren't available back when I got it. Bfly Work hard and be nice, you never have enough time or friends. | |||
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Used Trijicon 3x9x40 with Red triangle Last year In Namibia For Plains Game, on my 375 H&H. Did very well. I Bought a new one Green Triangle 1.25 x 4 For my 416 Rigby. been Shooting Both guns , No Problems. Will be travelling to Zim in Aug for Buff & Leopard. Intend to use both of them. I like them a lot, but takes a little time getting Used to the Post Sight Picture. Good Luck, you will like them. | |||
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I use the 1.25-4x with a red triangle on the post on my Ruger No. 1 in 450/400 3". I have about 200 rounds through it with no problems whatsoever and it worked as advertised on a buff last year. I plan to take it to Zambia this summer. I will say that I prefer a crosshair to the post and triangle, but the post and triangle works just fine. I have Leupolds on most of my rifles but I'm beginning to switch over to the Accupoint because I really like the dot of color at the intersection. I've tried both red and green and so far seem to prefer the green. | |||
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