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I've seen pics of polar bears in guy's trophy rooms and it made me wonder what other game some of you may have that are now banned.
 
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Not mine personally, but the gunshop I frequent has a full mount tiger.


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All of my mounts are good but I have several items made from elephant ivory that I purchased before the ivory ban and I can't sell or barter them. Had to give away a set of scrimshawed ivory grips for a 1911.

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Polar bear
Sea turtle
 
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'Sea Turtle'.

I caught one of those off of Surfside, TX.
It was like pulling in a tractor tire. Had quite a crowd wanting to take pics with it.
We eventually turned it toward the sea and off it went.
 
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I have a polar bear you can see if you look at post on trophy rooms.
 
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Walrus skull with scrimshawed tusks ... pre-ban.
 
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I've seen a mounted tiger that was shot in Vietnam.

It's the model for the painting by Craig Bone that is in the Pentagon.


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Snow Owl. A friend who doesn't hunt gave it to me about 25yrs ago, think it had been hit by a car.
 
Posts: 105 | Location: Philadelphia, PA | Registered: 09 May 2007Reply With Quote
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Yes, several. My wife has banned most of my trophies from the house.
 
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My dad has a Horned Owl mount in his trophy room. He shot it backinthe 50s when it was legal. He has it sitting on a post with a dead bird in its claws. Pretty neat mount.


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No, but I have one that had to be published in the Federal Register before getting a permit to import.
 
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A full-size Cheetah mount that was brought back by a GI, from an estate in Germany.
 
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Does it make the item illegal now if they were acquired before a ban???
 
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Does it make the item illegal now if they were acquired before a ban???


I sure hope not (and don't think so).

But there may be some question as to whether or not they can be resold now legally.
 
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Family has a set of Rino horns taken back in the 40's


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I've got a tiger skin that has been in the family for decades. One of our relatives used to be a missionary in China and got it there before WWII. It has all the papers from the US Fish and Wildlife to proof it is legal.

It's showing its age, but it holds a place of honor on the wall back home. You don't see those too often anymore.
 
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I've got a buddy who has a jaguar skin that his dad shot back before WWII.

The old Buffalo Hunter gun store in downtown Santa Fe, NM used to have a gorgeous Black Rhino shoulder mount on the wall.

But he most interesting "trophy" that I've ever seen was a genuine shrunken human head that came form the Amazon Basin back around the turn of the century. It was in a private collection and I'm not sure whatever became of it.



 
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Yes, several. My wife has banned most of my trophies from the house.

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Stonecreek, I didn't know we were married to the same woman! Eeker
 
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All of my mounts are good but I have several items made from elephant ivory that I purchased before the ivory ban and I can't sell or barter them. Had to give away a set of scrimshawed ivory grips for a 1911.

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If you have paper to proove the items/mounts were taken/bought before ban, they can be sold or bartered!

My wife has several items brought back from Japan, India, and OLD SIAM durring and just after WWII in the 1940s long before the ban on Ivory, and/or horn of any kind.


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I have a timber wolf taken in Ontario and brought into the U.S. before the endangered species act ever existed. I checked with US Fish & Wildlife and was told that I could sell it antwhere in the U.S., but that I could not export it back to Canada.
 
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I have a timber wolf taken in Ontario and brought into the U.S. before the endangered species act ever existed. I checked with US Fish & Wildlife and was told that I could sell it antwhere in the U.S., but that I could not export it back to Canada.


Something about that strikes me as a little humerous. We can send you live wolves but you can't send any dead ones back! stir

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Mountain lion taken by my grandfather in California in the late 1950s. It is now in our shop and I love seeing people turn their noses up at the sight of it. No more lion hunting in California.
 
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All of my mounts are good but I have several items made from elephant ivory that I purchased before the ivory ban and I can't sell or barter them. Had to give away a set of scrimshawed ivory grips for a 1911.

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If you have paper to proove the items/mounts were taken/bought before ban, they can be sold or bartered!

My wife has several items brought back from Japan, India, and OLD SIAM durring and just after WWII in the 1940s long before the ban on Ivory, and/or horn of any kind.


Mac,

I contacted USF&WS enforcement office and was told emphatically that I could not legally sell pre-ban ivory products.

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That is simply not true.
 
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All of my mounts are good but I have several items made from elephant ivory that I purchased before the ivory ban and I can't sell or barter them. Had to give away a set of scrimshawed ivory grips for a 1911.

465H&H


If you have paper to proove the items/mounts were taken/bought before ban, they can be sold or bartered!

My wife has several items brought back from Japan, India, and OLD SIAM durring and just after WWII in the 1940s long before the ban on Ivory, and/or horn of any kind.


Mac,

I contacted USF&WS enforcement office and was told emphatically that I could not legally sell pre-ban ivory products.

465H&H


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That is simply not true.



They simply told you wrong! You cannot import or export them but you can sell them here in the USA, it is done all the time in game mount auctions. Mounts of now banned animals, and Ivory tusks, Things made from Rhino horn! In fact the antiques Road Show record item was four cups made of Rhino horn was no more than two weeks ago! The four cups were sold for near $1000,000 USD at auction! Scrimshawed Whale teeth are bought and sold every day, in every antique auction and store in the USA!

There was a auction sale in Fort Worth, Texas Will Rogers Coliseum just last month where Elephant tusks and monted elephant heads Many of these things were from estate sales were sold at aution! This was advertised for two weeks prior to the auction on TV so I assure you if they were illegal to sell the feds would have been arresting folks in a heart beat! D/FW is a high volume Customs area, and there are feds behind every bush here!


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I wonder what my scrimshawed Walrus skull is worth?
 
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They simply told you wrong! You cannot import or export them but you can sell them here in the USA, it is done all the time in game mount auctions. Mounts of now banned animals, and Ivory tusks, Things made Rhino from horn! In fact the antiques Road Show record item was four cups made of Rhino horn was no more than two weeks ago! The four cups were sold for near $1000,000 USD at auction! Scrimshawed Whale teeth are bought and sold every day, in every antique auction in the USA!

There was a auction sale in Fort Worth, Texas Will Rogers Coliseum just last month where Elephant tusks and monted elephant heads Many of these things were from estate sales were sold at aution! This was advertised for two weeks prior to the auction on TV so I assure you if they were illegal to sell the feds would have been arresting folks in a heart beat! D/FW is a high volume Customs area, and there are feds behind every bush here!



Bingo - in Reno 2009 there was a pair of 120 lb ivory tusks in the booth across from us. They sold for $60,000, which seemed like a deal for what they were.

I think both of them were right around 10 feet long, and absolutely beautiful.


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From what has been said here it appears that I was told wrong by USF&WS.

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From what has been said here it appears that I was told wrong by USF&WS.

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You were told wrong. I have noticed that there are people in all lines of business who love to answer questions with, "You can't do that!" or, "That won't work". It gives them a sense of power to stop people from doing what they want to do.

I think I am guilty of that from time to time....


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You were told wrong. I have noticed that there are people in all lines of business who love to answer questions with, "You can't do that!" or, "That won't work". It gives them a sense of power to stop people from doing what they want to do.


Over the years I have also noticed that a lot of these folks, both state and federal, have learned that if their first response to a question is negative most folks take it for the gospel and go on about their business.

It has caused a lot of the misinformation that is floating around concerning game and fish laws.


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