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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Something wrong done in private does not make an action ok because it was done in private.

General Rule: If you are unwilling for folks to see the behavior , then you should not do it.

She knew such a picture was insulting to even hunters. She did it anyway. Finally, she creates a victim story instead of owning her bad decision and maturating.

It is not wrong for the hunting community to denounce bad behavior. Good taste a correct way of doing things are handed down. One is not inately born with these attributes.

I would be her loudest supporter if her action was appropriate for a hunter. Her action is not. The message the image portrays is revolting. She is a hunting celebrity. That makes her a spokesperson for every hunter. Like it or not that is a fact. Her message is harmful to me and the activity I enjoy most.

If one needs the surface connotations of the photo explanied to them as to why the photo is wrong and needs rebuking, then I cannot help.

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Originally posted by Minkman:
Larry, there was mention of Gold level trophies (edit- in the article). Not sure how many "Clubs" use that terminology? (edit- But then again I may be wrong)

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
She has confirmed the picture is real. The picture is the issue. The narrative from the tabloid is immaterial.

Her excuse, Someone threw it at me and the picture was taken before I knew what was going on.

I do not believe she caught it, poses with the gist toward camera, smiles, and did not knowing what was happening.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
DSC: I do not want to be a hard liner about this. She is what 31. I am 30. In general demographics she, I, am not young. However, in hunting demographics we are young. She is also a female a demographic that is desperately needed in the hunting community.

She based on her plateform, her gender, and age is a more important than most, certainly me, on this forum. That is why the behavior is so harmful.

She should have known better. She obviously was not mature enough for her position.

I hope she really does some self inventory, takes responsibility, and matures. I would be the first to shake her hand.

We need her and those like her. But all of them who are in the public eye with hunting carry all of us to the public. The harm done is magnified, and we are all seen to be like that when these things happen.

I agree the rabid anti hunter will not care. However, I maintain the common person, the common hunter does.

Trophy documentary from last year were hard liners, but the own use elephant hunt and even Dr. Parker, by their admission, should them the argument was nuanced.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
DSC: Please do not think my tone was one of antagonistic toward you. Obviously, she has not learned anything from this experience from your most recent interaction.

I just do not want folks to think I enjoy or even want to kick her. I certainly do not. I do not what her ruined. I want her to understand and do better, because we need her too. Sadly, that may be asking too much.

It seems the ones with the camera are found wanting. My fear is folks see this stuff and equate such behavior to the majority of hunters.

I know my comments, my attitude, can be read or seen as paternalistic or elitist. My intentions and expressions are for the perseveration and expansion of hunting.

Hunting takes a basic human instinct and controls it, focuses it to provide for habitat and wild animals. THat is the higher, global goal. The base or immediate goal is I get to engage in a family tradition that has done no harm but provide conversation and meals to those I love. It is a lot like capitalism.

Also for me, hunting always me some escapism, some limited chance to live with loved ones gone, and historical times long past.

Finally, I strongly believe if you are going to eat you need to be able to pull the trigger and kill it right yourself.

I will do everything I can, which my be futile or a shout in a hurricane, to preserve the sanctity that a hunter takes life. That is a responsibility. We carry a heavy burden to the animal. I owe anti hunters nothing. I owe that animal its life. I owe other hunters hunting itself.

I could write more in greater detail, but I hope this over view articulates my position on this issue. Or explains my post on the behavior presented in this thread.