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Are bats not the original source or at least carrier of Ebola? I wonder what it was about the horseshoe bats in Wuhan that created the petrary dish for SARS-Corona-2/Covid 19 to ignite. There is something or set of somethings that allowed this to rise in those bats in that region. I am just guessing, however; the conditions and proximity of animals in the Wuhan wet/meat market had to be a major factor. We have all heard of the open air meat/bushmeat markets in sub-Sahara Africa. Are bats readily sold in these markets? Ebola is still burning in Central Africa. It never went away. The national media simply does not speak of it. Am I being paranoid in my thinking sub-Sahara Africa is spinning the cylinder of its own version of SARS-Corona-2/Covid because of bats? As I said in the Political Forum it appears all roads lead to bats. I know we cannot kill all the bats, but the international community needs to put in place and strictly enforce restrictions on possession, trapping, transport, and keeping of bats. There needs to be an international community based outreach program about bats to try to kill the market place for bats. Guys, it is just the way I think. If all roads lead back to bats. Then we need to do something about bats and human interactions to keep this from happening. The proverbial why go to the store when you can go to the apple tree mentality. Mostly, China needs to tell its population no more bats or the full weight of this regime is going to crush you. I would be all for shooting a few bat keepers to make an example. | |||
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TANZANIA has hit 88 - 4 dead. Not looking good as there has been a sudden spike from the previous 53. | |||
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Oh Bollocks! I just checked and it has gone to 94 overnight! | |||
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John Hopkins statistics...in one month 17th of March - infected - dead RSA 62 - 0 Namibia 2 - 0 Tanzania 1 - 0 USA 4661 - 87 China 81052 - 3230 Italy 27980 - 2158 Spain 11178 - 491 France 6655 - 148 UK 1553 - 56 16th of April RSA 2506 - 34 Namibia 16 - 0 Tanzania 88 - 4 Zambia 48 - 2 Zimbabwe 23 - 3 Uganda 55 - 0 Mozambique 29 - 0 Botswana 15 - 1 USA 640837 - 31044 China 83402 - 3346 Italy 165155 - 21647 Spain 183816 - 19130 France 134582 - 17188 UK 99516 - 12894 What does this tell us ? Probably that the number of infected and dead will increase a lot in the US ! NUmbers from China is wrong ( stopped reporting ) And numbers also tell us that testing and reporting in Africa probably has a lot of dark holes... Sorry .. Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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The number that I found were from John Hopkins statistics. I must have looked just before they were up dated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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So you don’t Trust China Why do you trust the Trump Administration Nec Timor Nec Temeritas | |||
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Quote: "Why do you trust the Trump Administration?" Some folks should visit the Political Forum. The PF is all the rage right now.  DSC Life Member HSC Life Member NRA Life Member SCI RMEF | |||
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What I do not believe is that China suddenly has no more infected and dead even though they locked down when you compare to countries like Italy and Spain etc. I also do not trust the saying of Mr Trump that they have reached the peak. I am afraid that he will have to admit this in the next 2-3 weeks and further on. Several countries in Europe have experienced this and they have not peaked out yet.. Sorry... Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Because these numbers came from Johns Hopkins and not the government?? Jeez, what a nut  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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It is fine. It collects numbers from other sources. | |||
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Zambia recorded a spike in Kafue Town and added another 30 cases. The entire town is on lock down ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/n...2-ig366sz/index.html US to evacuate citizens out of Tanzania on Tuesday. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Not very good news at all. Hunting in Africa this year is getting more and more remote, as a possibility. Let us hope I am wrong. | |||
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While the intentions of the US Administration can be applauded, from a different viewpoint one could look at it as being a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire". Tanzania: 170 cases with 7 dead. USA: 764,265 cases with 40,565 dead. | |||
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Larry, just wondering if you spoke to your booking agent about the chances of us being able to hunt Africa/Zimbabwe this year? Mine said hopefully later in the season plus we need to see what happens with the airlines | |||
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If that happens the high paying cat hunters will come first. I don't see any operators being able to cram a season's bookings into a couple of months. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Thanks for the response Fairgame. To be more specific, I should be on a Leopard hunt RIGHT NOW in Zim. Me and my outfitter decided to take it day by day and see what happens to hopefully do the hunt at some point later on this year...so my question is “Will I make it this year?” We can put it off till next year too but I’m hoping to go ASAP What do you think? | |||
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Hi, The basic reality for the Hunting Industry and wildlife in Zimbabwe is that we need some kind of a hunting season to happen this year, no one is under any illusion that it won't be greatly reduced!!! Without some income from hunting this year a good number of areas will fold and that will be dire for the wildlife in those areas! WE (Zimbabwe) are on lock down till May 4 After that I'm sure there will be a staged re-openning of the country (Already happening). Hunting in particular happens in such remote areas with very limited contact with other people. If you are able to look after yourself with the various air travels to make it to your destination you should be fine!! Im sure there will be some good end of year deals for those confident enough to travel and hope we all manage to get some hunting in ! Hope you manage to get a nice TOM when you eventually go for your Leopard (The bush will be well rested so you should have a great chance) Cheers Doug Duckworth Professional Hunter Mokore Safaris @dougduckworthsafaris dougduckworth@mokore.com www.mokoresafarisafrica.com @dougduckworthsafaris.com | |||
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Another good time for Leopard is the first rains of November/December when it cools down again after the heat. I have much success but the baits do not last long. I just cannot see all countries and airlines getting together for at least 4 or 5 months? But that is simply a guess. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Some of us hunters in Norway/Scandinavia that have love for Africa in our soul have discussed the Corona situation. We hope to contribute to the situation as fast as possible, but see some challenges .. - when will the airlines begin to fly again from Scandinavia/Europe to Africa ? - which airline company will be operating ? - would SAA be operating or do we need to find aircompanies flying directly to Zim and Zambia ? Tanzania is served directly... - would the travel insurance cover situation that could arise due to Corona when entering an African country ? Further when arriving: - would the safari operator be able to guide/take the clients through customs at arrival avoiding groups of people or the cewline in customs etc ? - would the safari operator be able to put us directly and immedately into the Toyota or a bush plane avoiding contact with other people than the driver or pilot and head for the bush straight after customs ? - would the safari operator guarantee that hunting staff ( PH, driver, trackers ) and camp staff etc is Corona free ? If these efforts are not possible - we see some challenges ... until a vaccine is ready ! Do not want to sound pessimistic, but realistic. Hope you understand... Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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- SAA has gone bust and not sure if it will recover. - You would have to talk to the insurance companies directly for Corona coverage - don't expect them to come running for business. - On arrival I doubt the operator can do much to get you through customs without avoiding groups unless you want to start a riot. - The operator could arrange land transport in the middle of the night but there are no charter flights operating after dark. - Asking for a corona-free guaranteed hunting staff is rather far-fetched considering the situation which has affected every corner of the globe without anyone having come up with a guaranteed preventive remedy of sorts. Free advice: Sit it out until everything gets back to normal. | |||
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Thanks for the reply's gentlemen! AS I said before, I am in contact with my outfitter and will re-schedule my hunt the minute he says so...what I am really concerned about is being allowed to go from USA and then getting there. I will be able to get to Jo'Berg from NYC, but since SAA Airlines seems to be folding how will I get to Bulawayo if the Airlinks have folded.....and if someone takes their place will they allow firearms? PS: I am pretty sure that I had the CV but was asymptomatic, since my son tested positive and I have been around several people who have had it as well, so I am not worried about catching it on my trip. I will take my chances with that...I just want to go. This is killing me! | |||
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Look at Ethiopian Airways to Lusaka. You could always have your operator pick you up from the Zambia side of Vic Falls? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Ethiopian Airlines, the continent’s largest carrier, boosted the number of passengers it carried in 2019 to 12 million, up from 2 million a year in 2007, while SAA saw its annual passenger volume fall 25%, to 6 million, over the same period. But Ethiopian, which is also state-owned has also been significantly impacted by coronavirus economic crisis, and has putting some workers on furlough. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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South Africa aiming for new viable airline from SAA business rescue JOHANNESBURG, April 21 (Reuters) - The South African government will work with trade unions to ensure that a new financially viable and competitive airline emerges from South African Airways (SAA) business rescue process, the public enterprises ministry said on Tuesday. In a virtual meeting with unions, the inter-ministerial committee on SAA reiterated that the government was not in a position to provide more capital to the state-owned airline, the ministry said in a statement. SAA entered a form of bankruptcy protection in December, since then it has had to suspend all commercial passenger flights due to the global coronavirus pandemic. (Reporting by Nqobile Dludla Editing by Alexander Winning) | |||
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Africa's 43% jump in COVID-19 cases in week worries experts By GERALD IMRAY, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Apr 23, 2020, 10:35 AM ET Africa registered a 43% jump in reported COVID-19 cases in the last week, highlighting a warning from the World Health Organization that the continent of 1.3 billion could become the next epicenter of the global outbreak. Africa also has a "very, very limited" and “very, very strained” testing capacity, John Nkengasong, director of the Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in his weekly briefing on Thursday. The surge in infections on the continent is almost certainly under-reported and even higher in reality, say medical experts. WHO's recent report painted a grim picture for Africa, one of the last continents to be hit by the pandemic. WHO warned the virus could kill more than 300,000 people and push 30 million into desperate poverty. Africa still has time to avert such a disaster, Nkengasong said, but testing people and tracing virus cases is critical. “It all depends on what we are discussing here, which is, are you testing? Are you finding the cases? Are you isolating and tracking the contacts?" Nkengasong said, adding that the WHO report "is not a prediction that means it must happen.” By Nkengasong's own criteria, Africa is struggling on the testing front. In the two months since the continent began mobilizing to fight the outbreak, less than 500,000 tests have been conducted on the population of more than 1 billion. That's just 325 people tested per 1 million people, Nkengasong said. By comparison, that's far lower than Italy, one of the world's worst-hit countries, he said. “If you don’t test, you don’t find. And if you don’t test, you are blinded. If you don’t test, you are not ahead of the curve,” Nkengasong said. African governments reported a total of nearly 26,000 cases as of Thursday, according to the Africa Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, up from just over 16,000 a week ago. Around 1,200 people have died. Although those figures are still relatively small in the global picture, the sharp increase in cases is a cause for concern, said Nkengasong. The previous week saw an increase of 29%. The Africa Centers for Disease Control has a target of conducting 1 million more tests in Africa over the next four weeks and 10 million tests in the next four months. The overall effort is badly hampered, Nkengasong said, by a major obstacle: The existing fragility of the health services in many African countries. “I’d like to make sure I make this very clear," he said. "It is an uphill battle to build health systems while you need them. ... That is what we are actually doing now. We are playing catch-up and that is a very, very tough thing to do.” It's not exclusively bad news for Africa. South Africa has the highest number of reported cases with around 3,300 but Africa's most developed economy is being praised for an aggressive testing program. South Africa, aided by an existing infrastructure, has carried out more than 130,000 tests, according to its health minister. And "they are starting to see a bending of their curve." said Matshidiso Moeti, WHO's regional director for Africa. But South Africa's early and tentative signs of success — helped, maybe, by a strict lockdown — are being set off by “concerning increases” in virus cases in some countries in West Africa and East Africa, Moeti said. Nigeria, Africa's most populous country with 200 million people and a high population density, is a stark example of the testing and health system shortcomings prevalent across the continent. The country has reported 873 cases of COVID-19 and 28 deaths but had conducted just 7,153 tests as of Wednesday, according to the Nigeria Center for Disease Control. Around 5,000 of those tests only came in the last week. “The truth is, we have to work with what we have. We definitely didn't start at the baseline where South Africa started,” said Chikwe Ihekweazu, director general of the Nigerian center. “Many lessons will be learned here and around the world. But the middle of a crisis is not the time you can suddenly build up an infrastructural base that you need 20 or 30 years to build.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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Very good info on COVID data. https://thehill.com/opinion/he...tter_impression=true ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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If 1200 have died, let's do the numbers: first, that number is probably 2,500. Then, since Africa has a younger population, the death rate is probably .1% or 1 in 1000. So multiply 2,500 by 1000 and you get 2.5 million cases, symptomatic or not. That's probably closer to the truth. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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I'm still hopeful of hunting Zim this year | |||
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Just talked to my PH friends in Zimbabwe and South Africa and they are moving along the lines that this year is a bust. Talking to their clients and moving the 2020 hunts into 2021 to put some dates in place to go with the hunts that they had for 2021 already. However, if that changes that would be great. With basically no airline travel, and the quarantine in place for incoming tourist. They just thinking at this year is off and they are planning for next year. Right now they do not think that they would be traveling to the USA this next convention season, unless something major happens on the vaccine for the COVID-19 situation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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I know...it isn't looking good. My friends in Zim are hoping for September but as you said, allot is going to depend on the Airlines and quarantines if Africa is next to get ravaged. | |||
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My view is that 2020 is not going to go ahead. The problems being airlines both into Africa and intra Africa will make it all but impossible to get to our hunting destinations. Is SAA goes down, it’s a huge issue period. That and the fact that Africa is 3 months behind Covid than the rest of us makes hunting in 2020 all but Impossible. Start to look at 2021 from now..... | |||
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Me too. Supposed to leave for J'Burg from LAX on 28th of July. For Harare from J'Burg on the 31st. 90 days out from takeoff. Will it happen? Who knows? | |||
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Guys, I would say that we are lucky if we can hunt in Africa from August 2021 ... maybe that is also too optimistic ! Just give you some numbers... last week the Health authorities in the USA announced that they recorded approx 33,5 million americans getting the normal fleu last season. Of that approx 34.500 dies from the fleu. So far approx 970.000 americans have tested positiv for Covid 19 and approx 56.000 have died. That is a death rate about 5,8%. If 33,5 million americans get Covid 19 it is likely to believe that approx 2 million americans will die. Compare that to all wars the US has been involved in from WW II and up... If this virus will spread in Africa... I think it is going to get ugly... In additon, a very few still alive today remember the Spanish fleu... what happened at that time ? From Wikipedia: The Spanish flu, also known as the 1918 flu pandemic, was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic. Lasting almost 36 months from January 1918 to December 1920, it infected 500 million people – about a third of the world's population at the time.[2] The death toll is estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest pandemics in human history.[3] I am sorry. I do not intend to be negative, but I think there is reason to realize that this Covid 19 with todays helathcare in the western countries have givens us a hell of a beating. What then in Africa... Time will show.. Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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