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Hey Nitwox, What kind of wabbits do youz hunts wif dat big bad shooter????????????????  | |||
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For those of you in doubt, NitroX is holding/aiming a Jeffery 450 No2 double rifle. You might want to duck.   As I have it on good authority that the 450 No2 hits like the Hammer of Thor, or as my PH stated when I shot my bull elephant, 'Did you see that shot? Your Rifle, It was like a Train hit him'. NitroX When are you going to try some 350 grain bullets? DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Hee! Hee! Hee! There must be a PH training manual somewhere with a chapter entitled "Tip-Enhancing Commments". It probably says something like this:
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I guess trackers did not go to finishing school. When my 416 Rem put a zebra stallion down inside 15 staggering yards the tracker shouted excitedly and went running off towards the animal. As the PH and I walked up I asked him what Samuel had said. The PH said best he could translate it was "That rifle takes no shit!" Of course Canuck's zebra fell in it's tracks from a .375 H&H. Both were perfect heart shots, but Canuck's must have been on the powerstroke. Canuck did that several times in seven animals. I don't know how he could see the pulse at 80 yards, but he was consistent! Don_G ...from Texas, by way of Mason, Ohio and Aurora, Colorado! | |||
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Mac - Dankie - At least some are getting it. | ||
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Nitro, And is that an old Fox or Parker shotgun. GREAT PIC Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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 Dang my old shotgun sure does kick! I wonder why the clerk in the gun store laughs at me every time I ask for a box of 470 gauge shotgun shells??  Geeezzz, those 470 gauge shotgun shells sure are expensive, too!! I haven't had much luck hitting any ducks with it either.  -Bob F. | |||
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Talking about shotguns. Took the U/O ".410 Shotgun" for a walk last month. It did quite well.     | |||
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This has now turned into a general pissing contest and is below AR standards -let´s call it a day gentleman. All points have been proven. | |||
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Point taken but its not a double unless you shoot it sdeways like the gang bangers do. Large bore doubles go boom not bang i just thought i would point that out for some one who didnt know.  Charlie | |||
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Bob, i have two questions for you regarding this pic, why are you sitting down, and whats with the wimpy shooting pad? If you are sitting down for accuracy, then please shoot a lighter gun its too much for you. If you need that pad because it hurts you little shoulder then please stay home and post more heroic pics of your self or the other idiot and more game wont be wounded by over guned genjowz like yourselfs. Just remember i did not start this pissing contest, i just posted my opinion with out any names attached. You cant win this war i have more ammo,guns and far more experience than both of you and your pathetic freinds . End it now or ill make 500 Grains rebuttles seem like childs play. Its your decision. Charlie | |||
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Ah! Such manners, such elegance, such a grown up way to debate. We sould be proud to be members of the same forum. I really miss that ignore button.  By the way: It is a shotgun in my picture, and I have never pretended anything else.  Regards, Martin ----------------------- A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition. - R. Kipling | |||
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Hey Charlie, You sound like a real mental case...get a life! | |||
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Martin, What else can we expect from Charles McWilliams aka 'Wynwood'? He's just an immature kid that posts from a highschool in Pennsylvania...  I miss the ignore button too.  | |||
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Charles!!!!!! Grow up! 465H&H | |||
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Hi Chuckie, Lets see some pics of your "vast" firearms collection. You are obviously an expert on everything, so let us nimrods in on your expertise. I doubt that you have ever hunted or owned any guns. You are a pathetic douchebag. ______________________ Age and Treachery Will Always Overcome Youth and Skill | |||
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Tembo, I take offense to your calling Chuckie a douchebag. At least a douchebag serves a purpose. | ||
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Mike, You may be right. However, we are all waiting with bated breath to hear his undoubtedly brilliant pontifications on firearms and firearm accessories. ______________________ Age and Treachery Will Always Overcome Youth and Skill | |||
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Come on guys give Chuckie a break. After all he did buy Carmellos amazing 404! | |||
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I guess I missed that transaction. | |||
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That is a disrespectful, and poor discription of Chuckie! His being a douchebag would assume, he would be old enough to know how to find where his nozzle is supposed to go!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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'Wynwood' posted from an IP from the Northampton School District in Pennsylvania and I imagine old "Charles McWilliams" is posting from the same school PC's.
Did he claim to "buy" this monstrosity:    . | |||
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Ray who ??? and Ernest who ?? what does that ''410''shoot ?? depleted uranium pellets ??? nice scrub bull mmmmm !!!! better than mine | |||
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NitroX, Naaa I was just funnin with ya. But the two of them would make a lovely couple. Don't you think? | |||
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Hey NitroX, looks like you got that Valmet/Tikka 9.3X74R shooting well enough to hit a buffalo! I can't tell from the pictures, but do you have a scope on that rifle?I have a little Winchester O/U 9.3X74R double rifle now, and had a couple of the older Valmet 412 rifles in the past. Both mine were regulated for the load I wanted, then soldered ribs on permently. One was a 375 Win, and the other was a 375Win re-chambered for 375JDJ. I wish I still had the 375 JDJ. Both mine were scoped with old Weaver 2x scopes with post and cross wire reticles. These rifles were very nice deer, and black bear rifles. SORRY about highjacking the string! Now back to the topic!  ...........NEXT!....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Mr. Charles McWynwood please report to the principal's office. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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I suppose the cane is out of question in todays "enlightened" PC environment? | |||
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Mac My ".410" wears a 1-4x Leupold on it in Valmet/Tikka mounts. I regulated it myself using the sliding block and it shoots extremely well. Each barrel shoots two shots touching at 50 metres. Edited to add: Mac, it was shooting well enough to brain shoot my second buffalo. I tried on my third (the second barrel - a one/two brain shot on two beasts) but missed the brain and lost the buffalo. After that all chest shots and the 13 after, no problems. | |||
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No, the site is owned by a gentleman from the UAE who believes in freedom of speech and repeatedly proves that it works very well, certainly better than most of the alternatives. | |||
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Nitro X, If your Valmet/Tikka 9.3X74R puts two shots touching at 50m, how far apart are they at 100m or 150m? Just curious, Pete | |||
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Good question, Pete. Static geometry says at 100m they'd be back to the distance between the barrels. Dynamics says: only shooting it will tell you, even if you used a Cray! Maybe this thread will generate a crumb of useful discourse after all!  cheers, Don_G ...from Texas, by way of Mason, Ohio and Aurora, Colorado! | |||
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If they are touching at 50M, is it that the two bullets are starting to converge or have they already crossed and have started to diverge? Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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My impression is that each barrel shoots a tight group at 50 meters and that the aggregate group is satisfactory, albeit not touching. Of course I could be reading this wrong. [emphasis added] | |||
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I'd say from what I've read of NitroX's posts,he fully understands the dynamics of the regulation of a double rifle. So the above opinion is shared by me as well! A properly regulated double rifle never crosses the bullets at all, no matter the range. In the case of the O/U the lower barrel will print it's group's center slightly below point of aim, while the top barrel will print it's group center slightly above the point of aim at the Regulation distance, along a verticle line through the point of aim. The two groups will have the upper half of the bottom group reaching as high as the center of the top group, and vice-versa, for the top group forming a composite group that the center of will be very close to point of aim. I believe this is the case with Nitro's rifle! With a side by side the discription is simply rotated 90% with the point of aim still on the center of the composite group, with the dispersion of the two groups along a horizonal line! It is correct, that if the two bullets from each barrel touched each other at 50yds, then they would be crossing after that point. This is not proper regulation, and I don't think NitroX meant it that way! People who regulate to have all bullets make one ragged hole at any given point, have not properly loaded to shoot to the regulation of the rifle.  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Same here, that makes a lot of sense. Don_G ...from Texas, by way of Mason, Ohio and Aurora, Colorado! | |||
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Pete I had them touching at 100 metres too, some of the time, ie bullets from the same barrel, not one from barrel. Maybe there was a little over an inch between the groups. I forget as I tried to get it absolutely perfect with the wedge and messed it up a little, then decided it was good enough at that stage rather than fiddling some more. I will have to fiddle some more now again. The lower barrel shoots below the upper barrel on target as Mac indicates. Ideally the two groups should be approximately one-inch apart as that is how far (approx) the barrels are apart (IMO). With field positions the groups from both barrels would converge anyway. Haven't shot it on targets at more than a 100 metres so far, only hide and hair. I will however at 150 metres, 200 m, 250 m and 300 metres to see how it goes and also holdover required. (scopes make a big difference in useful range on a double rifle) | |||
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