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As is always the case with a strange specimen like this, the question is would you shoot it?   | ||
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No, I would not. Sable are so incredibly beautiful, I would not want a non-typical as my representative trophy. "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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Agree, plus correct me if I'm wrong but it looks quite young. Now if it was culled like those impala with the straight horns that kill during fights I totally understand. Thanks! Brian Clark Blue Skies Hunting Adventures www.blueskieshunting.com Email at: info@blueskieshunting.com African Cape Trophy Safaris www.africancapesafaris.com Email at: brian@africancapesafaris.com 1-402-689-2024 | |||
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No I wouldn't.
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I would shoot it for the outfitter to take it out of the gene pool as long as there was no trophy fee involved. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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...and the Hunter is a (famous) German ! Nec Timor Nec Temeritas | |||
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How much per inch would that go for?  tic------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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Even as a German I would not. | |||
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cow?? | |||
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Definitely not! The previous impala yes, but this one would be a pass unless I was asked to put it out of it's misery. DRSS Sabatti 450\400 NE Merkel 140-2 500 NE | |||
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Last fall at a preserve I took a young red deer whose antlers went out to the side .It was a cull of course though we wondered if it was a cross , deer X goat ! Take it as a cull not a trophy. | |||
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As bwana cecil says, I would shoot it - but only as a cull to improve the local gene pool. The real question for me is would anyone send it to his taxidermist for a skull mount!  It would be tempting. Ninety degrees of right angled horn growth might not be unique in the world, but it's got to be rare! I know a hunter of German extraction from Namibia whose trophy room is lined with skull mounts of freakishly deformed horned game. I have to say it makes for quite a demonstration of how bizarre nature can be! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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from looking at the color it seems to be an immature bull. regardless of configuration, i wouldn't shoot it. not a mature animal. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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A mature one, sure. A juvenile, only as a cull. This one looks a little on the young side to me too. | |||
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Bang !!! I passed one tusker ( 70+) first time elephant hunting on first day, being first bull. Still think about him. Glad I passed him, because I had incredible 15 days of elephant hunting with 40 lbs bull on the ground last day and several charges during that hunt. But I would never ever pass him again. That being said BANG AGAIN !!! " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Absolutely not. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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First time I've seen a non-typical sable DRSS Searcy 470 NE | |||
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Looks more likely to be damage than genetic, not sure that left eye was functional. Might have been an early injury it did well to survive. Like to see the skull. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I'd pass. I like non-typicals and all but in this one's case, the animal seems to be a bit young. I'd pass based on it's age. | |||
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I would shoot that without any hesitation. It would have been a great addition to the dozens I already have. | |||
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I suppose the outfitter would be quite capable of doing so on his own under those conditions.  | |||
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If he was mature, I'd take him - no problem. One thing you can be pretty sure of is that it's unique. -- Promise me, when I die, don't let my wife sell my guns for what I told I her I paid for them. | |||
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Just one additional point, since so many have mentioned it. For culling purposes, waiting until an animal like this is fully mature is not a good idea. The whole point of effective culling is to get him out of the gene pool before he breeds and passes along his bizarre genetic traits. That's the only way I'd go for this sable - as a cull - as I prefer typical, representative trophies. If I were after him as a mature trophy, that would pose some difficulties, I would imagine, although I don't know the details of this hunt. I can't speak for Guy, but for culling purposes, I would think that any outfitter who found an animal like this one while out hunting trophies would likely want him shot regardless of age. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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100% spot on. If I saw that specimen when I was working in any given area, boom, handshake from the boss when I got back to HQ. | |||
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Yes they are, but on all 3 of my safaris I have been ask to dispatch animals that had been hurt or were very old. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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In a New York minute. I have absolutely no aversion to shooting a non-typical. Even to the point of spending my trophy dollars. This is a moot value since I really didn't take trophies when I was hunting. Out of 8 safari's I have a pair of tusks from my last safari and 2 zebra rugs,one I paid for and one a gift from my PH. Oh I have ONE Duiker horn. I shot a Duiker for the boys meal and to not destroy any meat shot him in the head. A 270gr Partition 375H&H does bad things to a skull. They only found one horn but the meat was whole for them. Found out later I shouldn't have done it and I paid the fee for it. They really didn't get a very good diet. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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Sable are, IMHO, the most beautiful African game. I will probably only take 1 ever. With these circumstances, I would not take the animal as my trophy. However, for no fee, or a reduced fee while not actually after Sable, I would consider it. DSC SCI Life NRA Life WSF Life <1 Club | |||
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I suppose there isn't much of a difference between hurt or very old, both candidates worthy of being put out of their misery and very healthy with a horn deformity more likely as a result from injury than to genetics and quite sought after by some hunters. In this case the animal was rather immature but still a trophy in itself to some. | |||
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Were I ever to go to Africa, I would shoot that animal in a heart beat. To me it looks like the left eye is gone, so the animal had reduced survival chances. I view this as a case of personal choice. While many judge a trophy by inches or age, others judge by uniqueness, nothing is wrong with either in my opinion. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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This Sable is like this from injury not genetics so would not affect the breeding. Well done Guy on shooting the one eyed sable, Makorokoto.. | |||
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Here is another from the Kafue in Zambia.   ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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