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I have this question after reading the "Is Facing Danger the Attraction" topic. What has been your experience with "mercy killing" on your hunts?

I have had that come up at least three times on different hunts. Once was a large male waterbuck that had been attacked by a lion, claw marks on the rear leg and hip that appeared to be infected, although the animal was moving, but appeared to be in some pain. In this case, I dispatched it and paid for it as part of the quota. Horns were trophy quality and I tanned the backhide with the claw marks and hope to make it into a pillow someday.

Another was an old cow buffalo, that was thin and cripple, and had some trouble walking. The guide said he had seen that cow before, and was surprised she was still alive. We let her go.

Another time was in Australia when tracking Banteng in the swamp. We were very close to the herd, and heard some splashing, and went to check it out. A banteng, young bull was having problems, seemed to be having difficulty walking. The guide said he thought it may have been attacked by a croc. We discussed as to if we should go back and finish it off after we finished our stalk. We continued following the herd for several miles, then lost them when the realized they were being followed. We did not go back that way again. There was a strict quota in place for the area, 15 animals for the season. I don't know if a mercy killing was even legal or not.

Several people stated in the "Facing Danger" topic that mercy killings are illegal in park areas. Does the game scout have the right to do a "mercy killing" if he chooses?

I look forward to hearing other's experiences.
 
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Actually the first animal I shot on my first safari, on the first day and the first hour was a bull elephant with a big festering wound between his eyes from AK rounds. Actually he was the first wild elephant I'd ever seen. He charged the vehicle a couple of times but we were able to avoid him and he eventually ran into the bush. We followed him up as it was the PH's duty in this tribal area and found him with his head behind a tree. The PH told me where to shoot as we had not discussed it because we were after an impala that day and ele's were not on the menu at all. I followed instructions and that's how my safari career started. Needless to say I was in kind of a daze for a couple days.

I shot a hartebeest at the PH's request that was full of buckshot in Cameroon but otherwise the only injured animls I've encounter were bulls of differnt species that were bashed up in duels with other bulls and would eventually heal.

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Did you pay for the hartebeest that you shot at the request of the PH? Was it counted against the quota of that area?
 
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I didn't pay for the hartebeest and I can't say about the quota for the area.

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I have sorted out a number of injured and/or sick animals while on safari in different countries and never paid for any of them. Includes Kudu, Sable, Jackal, Hartebeast, etc. Many were victims of poachers snares. Also saw a very unhappy Elephant who was crippled, while on a photo only safari. That lad needed sorting out badly as he was really pissed at the world and looking to take it out on someone.


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Lionhunter: Me too. On the last safari I was asked to shoot a big female giraffe suffering from a poacher's snare, along with a 52" Kudu with one horn that had been injured. I wasn't charged for either of them and the meat was given to the local communal area. I dropped both of them with the .300 WSM.
 
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Actually the first animal I shot on my first safari, on the first day and the first hour was a bull elephant with a big festering wound between his eyes from AK rounds. Actually he was the first wild elephant I'd ever seen. He charged the vehicle a couple of times but we were able to avoid him and he eventually ran into the bush. We followed him up as it was the PH's duty in this tribal area and found him with his head behind a tree. The PH told me where to shoot as we had not discussed it because we were after an impala that day and ele's were not on the menu at all. I followed instructions and that's how my safari career started. Needless to say I was in kind of a daze for a couple days.


That's a heck of a way to start off safari hunting. Did you buy a lottery ticket when you got back?


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I've only been instructed to finish an Impala ram that was acting sickly. He didn't appear to be injured, but for sure wasn't healthy. Then I was on a ranch in RSA once that the owner gave orders to shoot all Warthogs on sight. I did as asked. Another time a common Springbok ram had found his way into a herd of black Springbok. My PH sheepishly said "If you can hit him, you can have him." He was just over 300 yards. My .223 delighted in doing the work with one shot to the base of the skull. No charges were incurred. LDK


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No! Those kinds of things happen to me about every 10 years so I'm not planning on that ever happening again.

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I shot a sick and dying kudu in Namibia in 2008.

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Last year in SA, my hunting partner shot a eland bull that was starting to rot between the ears. Both ears were dangling by little pcs of skin. Talk about stink. We couldn't get within 10 feet. Poor bastard. He was standing 20 feet off the road. Never moved when we stopped. For sure a mercy killing.
 
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Here's one I thought should have been a mercy killing but wasn't. It was a big old hippo that had been severely gashed in a fight; his ribs were broken and poking out and he was sick and dying as we stood over him in the water. We threw rocks and sticks at him, punched him with tree limbs, and shot around him trying to get him to move. Nothing worked.
I finally shot him in the back to kill him and he was my hippo for the hunt.

 
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There is a lot more "mercy killing' going on than I would have ever thought!
 
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Once, in Zim many years ago. We came across a kudu that was moving very slowly and erraticly. When we glassed him, he had one leg so badly infected that it was the size of your thigh near his left front hoof. The ph told me to shoot him and I put a 375 into him. No charge and I took the horns home on the plane. My first kudu and I can see the horns from where I sit.
 
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On a safari in Botswana I shot a wildebeast that was being eaten alive by two jackels. My father was not charged.


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Originally posted by RBHunt:
I have this question after reading the "Is Facing Danger the Attraction" topic. What has been your experience with "mercy killing" on your hunts?

I have had that come up at least three times on different hunts. Once was a large male waterbuck that had been attacked by a lion, claw marks on the rear leg and hip that appeared to be infected, although the animal was moving, but appeared to be in some pain. In this case, I dispatched it and paid for it as part of the quota. Horns were trophy quality and I tanned the backhide with the claw marks and hope to make it into a pillow someday.

Another was an old cow buffalo, that was thin and cripple, and had some trouble walking. The guide said he had seen that cow before, and was surprised she was still alive. We let her go.

Another time was in Australia when tracking Banteng in the swamp. We were very close to the herd, and heard some splashing, and went to check it out. A banteng, young bull was having problems, seemed to be having difficulty walking. The guide said he thought it may have been attacked by a croc. We discussed as to if we should go back and finish it off after we finished our stalk. We continued following the herd for several miles, then lost them when the realized they were being followed. We did not go back that way again. There was a strict quota in place for the area, 15 animals for the season. I don't know if a mercy killing was even legal or not.

Several people stated in the "Facing Danger" topic that mercy killings are illegal in park areas. Does the game scout have the right to do a "mercy killing" if he chooses?

I look forward to hearing other's experiences.


Just to be clear, the "No Mercy Killing" rule is applicable to Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife concessions. It isn't applicable to Communal Areas or Campfir Areas, where they make (some of) their own rules. And it isn't applicable on privately owned conservancy.

I have mercy killed a boboon stuck in a snare on private land in Zim, in the Save Conservancy. But have had to let live a lion torn scrum cap bull buff - wish now I had killed him, a couple of other assorted critters and an elephant with a badly infrcted foot because they were in Parks' concessions.

In my exchange on the "Thrill" thread with 465H&H, I figured he would understand the "Parks' concessions" limitation of my comment, since he is very familiar with hunting in Zim. Perhaps I should have elaborated for those not as experience as he. I have no idea what the rules are in other countries on Gov't concessions or private land.

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I have this question after reading the "Is Facing Danger the Attraction" topic. What has been your experience with "mercy killing" on your hunts?

I have had that come up at least three times on different hunts. Once was a large male waterbuck that had been attacked by a lion, claw marks on the rear leg and hip that appeared to be infected, although the animal was moving, but appeared to be in some pain. In this case, I dispatched it and paid for it as part of the quota. Horns were trophy quality and I tanned the backhide with the claw marks and hope to make it into a pillow someday.

Another was an old cow buffalo, that was thin and cripple, and had some trouble walking. The guide said he had seen that cow before, and was surprised she was still alive. We let her go.

Another time was in Australia when tracking Banteng in the swamp. We were very close to the herd, and heard some splashing, and went to check it out. A banteng, young bull was having problems, seemed to be having difficulty walking. The guide said he thought it may have been attacked by a croc. We discussed as to if we should go back and finish it off after we finished our stalk. We continued following the herd for several miles, then lost them when the realized they were being followed. We did not go back that way again. There was a strict quota in place for the area, 15 animals for the season. I don't know if a mercy killing was even legal or not.

Several people stated in the "Facing Danger" topic that mercy killings are illegal in park areas. Does the game scout have the right to do a "mercy killing" if he chooses?

I look forward to hearing other's experiences.


Just to be clear, the "No Mercy Killing" rule is applicable to Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife concessions. It isn't applicable to Communal Areas or Campfir Areas, where they make (some of) their own rules. And it isn't applicable on privately owned conservancy.

I have mercy killed a boboon stuck in a snare on private land in Zim, in the Save Conservancy. But have had to let live a lion torn scrum cap bull buff - wish now I had killed him, a couple of other assorted critters and an elephant with a badly infrcted foot because they were in Parks' concessions.

In my exchange on the "Thrill" thread with 465H&H, I figured he would understand the "Parks' concessions" limitation of my comment, since he is very familiar with hunting in Zim. Perhaps I should have elaborated for those not as experience as he. I have no idea what the rules are in other countries on Gov't concessions or private land.

JPK


There may be some changes going on with Parks in Zim in this regard. This past November we found a cow buff with a badly swollen foot from a snare. The PH radioed Parks and they asked us to kill it. I gather that this is now the norm in Charisa.

I took a big cow with a bad limp out of a herd of bulls instead of one of the PAC bulls because of the limp.

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The gemsbok I took in Kwa-Zulu Natal was starving to death. It's teeth were all gone and all the grass it grazed fell back out of its mouth again. The PH saw the fact, asked if I could hit it and I shot it through the shoulders. Dropped like a stone. Poor old thing didn't even have enough meat on it's bones to make a decent meal. JIm did somewhat the same thing on a huge-tusked old warthog in Mozambique. Thinking back on it, we've shot a fair number of extremely old animals in our day. Makes you wonder how the karma will turn when we get to be 90! Big Grin


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i've shot several animals under the term mercy. sick kudu eland and blesbok on private lands, puku, buffalo, warthogs roan on concessions. with poachers snares amputating their legs. we had one beautiful 40+ sable with his front leg ready to fall off that the PH looked at me and said you or me. neither one of us could bring ourselves to shooting it
 
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If the PH wanted to do it, have at it. He knows the rules better than I.

I'm not interested, and certainly didn't travel half way around the world to shoot sick or injured animals.
 
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