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I'm in the early stages of planning a knife only buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe, & need your input. Here are my questions: (1) What's the legal minimum knife length for Zim ? (2) What knife did you use to kill your buffalo - be specific, length, double bladed, etc. and (3) Approx. how far was buff when you broke cover, ran up to it, and jumped on his back to cut its throat? Please, bulls only, no sissy buffalo cow kills. Thanks for your input. ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | ||
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While it is true that buffalo have been killed with pocket knives, these are nothing more then stunt hunts, or were done a long time ago before they knew better and therefore don't count. I prefer a flat point machete, especially when in close cover. PS - I propose a Poll on the subject.  ------------------------------- Bill C / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much knife. | |||
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Don't know the minimum length but I used a 24 inch tapered and double edged... You could shave with it... A cold steel custom made... I sat on a branch and waited over a watering trail... Jumped down on him as he passed under the limb and upon impact and my weight buried knive up to the hilt.. Twisted and turned while it was in deep and you guessed right "the crap" hit the proverbial fan and it was flying all over the place while I hung on .. Don't know who was more scared the bull or me.... But I'm still here...  Belated April fools joke..  Mike | |||
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While I've seen bushbuck taken with a Leatherman, when it comes to buffalo my philosophy has always been............. Use enough knife. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Will, You bored? "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Knives are for cissies. you guys need to try doing it with a knobkerrie or a shambok!  | |||
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http://www.outdoorchannel.com/Shows/SavageWild/ On this weeks episode this cat killed a pet "killer" hog standing in a tree a chunking a spear. It was hilarious to watch. | |||
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Who needs a knife, take him on mano on mano | |||
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Buy Will's book for the flight over. Always nice if the last book you read before death was worthwhile... | |||
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I do not know if it would kill but my darling children have told me on several occasions that my morning breath would stop a full blown buffalo charge. I think that I will try it in Aug. If you own a gun and you are not a member of the NRA and other pro 2nd amendment organizations then YOU are part of the problem. | |||
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I have a Japanese samuri sword that my dad brought back from WWII. I have thought about using this. I would want to dress in full samuri attire during the hunt. The only thing that has stopped me is that I have not been able to find the traditional sandals in size 13. NRA CRPA DRSS | |||
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Shit! I killed one with a nail clipper. Of course it was the MAGNUM version that works like a pair of wire cutters. Those puny things that work by pressing the thumb and forefinger together do not hold up in your typical buffalo brawl. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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In all seriousness, in 1987 I was hired to do some elephant cropping in the Omay North Concession of Zimbabwe. I was supposed to take- out forty cows and six bulls, had skinners and equipment all lined up. Creating, and or building one's on arrows, cartridges, or weapons is most gratifying when a kill is made. Thus having taken numerous whitetails, hogs, muledeer, elk, and one pronghorn[would have made Boone & Crockett had I used bow or gun], I figured the same method would work on elephant. Morning of the first hunt; sun was shining, slight breeze in our faces, trackers and I snuck up on a group of five adults- one a very large bull. Motioned for my trackers not to move, I began running as fast as I could around each elephant, cracking all four of their knees with my num chuks. When all five were down, I crushed each of their skulls utilizing over-hand blows. Leg meat was ruined. | |||
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I believe Lynn Thompson, owner of Cold Steel knives actually did it for real with one of his spears. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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Will! What ever you do, do not be tempted to try it with a pointed or RN tipped knife. One poster here tried a pointed tip knife on dry newspapers and the blade veered off course and turned 180 deg. It came out and stabbed him in the groin. Just missed his femoral artery but it duidn't have enough penetration to reach it. Grind your knife point down to a flat tipped shape to assure maximum straight line penetration. 465H&H | |||
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Just ask your PH. He will explain all. Aloha from Kauai. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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Who needs a knife? I absolutely did kill one with my bad breath. I won't kid you, though. It was dicey. I had to get up close and personal and yell at him pretty loud. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Now we know the truth! Mark Young is the man responsible for T.S.A. rules that disallow nail clippers on airplanes ! Thanks alot Mark!!!! DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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I use a # 2 pencil with good results. I file the point to a flat tipped cone shape. Don't worry about the yellow color since they are color blind. What you need to do is find a cow in heat,and drench your self in her perfume. Crawl into the herd and wait for the trophy bull to mount,spin quickly stabbing him in the brain-stem maintaining at least 21.5 mph in arm speed. The hard part is not taking the first bull that comes by,wait for the BIG BOY!!! JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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Without meaning to stir the controversy pot, there are those who swear and provide mountains of data that will prove - finally - that a hard cast blade at slow velocity will out penetrate even the finest Nitro steel. "You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin | |||
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you boys sure go to alot of work just for a buffalo. i just give 'em a good hard stare with a cocked eyebrow and ugly 'em to death. taught the technique to my wife but she tears up too much meat...  | |||
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I used a Buck 110 Hunter...you can have all those fancy knives don't need anything more than a standard buck... I also had my PH shoot the buff in the balls with a 22 short just to make sure he was good and agitated for the the fight Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Undoubtably the best thread in a very long time! Having said that, as I recollect the Gurkhas used to ceremonially decapitate a bull with a single stroke of the Kukri. To have to use more than one stroke was a great dishonor and a definite no no. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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With cameras every where these days, it would make for a hilarious video to secretly have one pointed at the P.H.'s face when you suddenly spring your desire on him after he helped you get your rifle through customs. Gpopper | |||
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There was a martial arts teacher,I believe Japanese who killed a bull with several open hand strikes. It was a young bull,but still a lot of animal.There were photos of him doing it in his book.This was in the late 60's JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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Will, I prefer a 32 inch long 6.5mm Jap Mauser attached to a bayonet of equal length. Andy | |||
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rvner, did you learn your art from Chuck Norris? ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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Will, You don't need a knife, just give them that menacing stare and make sure your not wearing sleeves.  Should scare them to death.  | |||
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An old italian story said that is possible to takes animal putting salt on the tail. Has anyone used this method? Could be interesting? bye Stefano Waidmannsheil | |||
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JD, the Japanese was Mas Oyama and he killed numerous bulls (cattle variety) with a punch to stun them and then broke their neck while stunned. I think his count was well into the 30's and the purpose was to show pure power. I have his books but then that is off topic. York, SC | |||
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It's not the knife,y'see.It's in the ''stab placement''.Stab him in the right spot even with a pen knife,he would roll over and die. BTW,has anyone tried using dogs,Poodles to be precise, on buffalo while hunting with a knife? Best- Locksley,R "Early in the morning, at break of day, in all the freshness and dawn of one's strength, to read a book - I call that vicious!"- Friedrich Nietzsche | |||
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Please don't, think about the trackers!Clinton Rogers Zim PH | |||
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Personally, I have always used a box cutter. I jump on, pull the right horn around his body with my left hand to expose the jugular vein, and: slice, slice! Rich Buff Killer | |||
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With the changing security requirements will SAA let you pack a box cutter in your checked baggage, or does it require a separate locked case and declaration at check in? "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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Might I suggest one of these in lieu of the usually safari vehicle . . .  ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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You could probably get this one with a knife but I'm not sure if it's legal to do so from the Bakkie. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Are you planning on wearing a loin cloth, or will this be done in the "buff"? 114-R10David | |||
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Before Edgar Rice Burroughs ripped off my autobiography in 1912, I used to hide in trees and jump on them when they passed beneath the branches. Bare-handed, of course. Here's a picture of me killing a sabre-toothed lion:  analog_peninsula ----------------------- It takes character to withstand the rigors of indolence. | |||
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