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Originally posted by Saeed:
If they go ahead with it like Zimbabwe, it will take a much shorter time to affect hunting than it did in Zimbabwe.

A lot more hunting is done on private farms in South Africa.

Very sad indeed!

This is a loose loose situation.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Some folks have asked me if this could happen in Namibia and the fact is, it already happened and we are on the other side of it. When Namibia won its independence from South Africa in 1990, the government immediately went about resettlement through the Communal Conservancy program. Historic lands were returned to communities and every time farmland goes on sale, it must first be offered to the government for fair market purchase and resettlement. After 28 years, the process is largely complete. Today, black ownership of farm, cattle, and hunting land is extensive throughout Namibia.

Planning for the future and establishing a controlled process made all the difference in Namibia.

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Originally posted by Russ Gould:
It seems the situation in Namibia is not stable and quite similar to RSA. From a 2017 article by some Swedish bleeding heart professor:


"Redistribution is based on a principle called ”willing seller – willing buyer”. It gives the government a preferential right to buy farms at market value. The land is supposed to be reallocated to historically disadvantaged people, but that has rarely happened.

What has happened is that members of the new political elite got precedence as buyers. As early as the mid-1990s, observers remarked sarcastically that land reform had been accomplished since most members of the cabinet now owned private farms .

Only very little land has been purchased for the purpose of accommodating the landless. By the mid-1990s, the authorities had bought only around 100,000 hectares. By the turn of the millennium the figure had risen to 341,000 hectares of 54 farms.

The results of resettlement projects have been sobering. Most new settlers remain dependent on food aid. They did not get the support they needed to become self-sufficient and remained unable to achieve the minimum objective of secure livelihoods. All too often, those who were resettled kept relying on government support. The rural infrastructure has collapsed. Strikingly, land reform is neither mentioned in Namibia’s official poverty reduction strategy, which was approved by the cabinet in 1998, nor in the National Poverty Reduction Action Programme for 2001 to 2005."

"It is indisputable, however, that the present distribution of land is basically a result of German colonial rule. It is a colonial legacy. 
In view of growing dissatisfaction among sections of the people, Namibia’s government has indicated it is prepared to step up a gear. Among other things, it plans to take a closer look at some constitutional clauses, re-assessing whether land transfers must always be voluntary, for example."

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Originally posted by fulvio:
The land-grabbing issue and systematical killing of white farmers in RSA has been brought up a number of times in the recent past but denied by the artificially blind patriotic types.

The truth is now forcefully emerging in the form of facts and the tune is changing; let's face it, when you have types like Malema and his horde of anti-white followers, as possible candidate to the Presidency, things will really take a turn in RSA and the outcome will pale against what happened in Zimbabwe under Mugabe.

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Have to hand it to Uncle Bob he was relatively civilized and non violent in his theft and destruction of white property in zim.

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Originally posted by jorge:

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Have to hand it to Uncle Bob he was relatively civilized and non violent in his theft and destruction of white property in zim.

You have GOT to be fuggin' kidding, right?

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

Have to hand it to Uncle Bob he was relatively civilized and non violent in his theft and destruction of white property in zim.

Mike

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Originally posted by Lhook7:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

Have to hand it to Uncle Bob he was relatively civilized and non violent in his theft and destruction of white property in zim.

Mike

The people I know in Zim who were removed from their land and had it stolen would definitely disagree.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Around Bulawayo I know lots of farmers who were removed from their farms. While they were not harmed beyond a few beatings, their staff was raped and murdered by the droves.

So pretty silly to say since everyone wasn't murdered, that the process was peaceful and civilized or warranted.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Grow up Mike.

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Grow up Mike.

I have a low threshold for liars and trolls.

You meet both of them.

Self claimed famous Namibian hunter and operator with 18k post on AR but too ashamed to provide a single link to hunting report, picture or client.

Maybe you are scared Uncle Bob goons will beat you up in Namibia.

Mike

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by Lhook7:

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

Have to hand it to Uncle Bob he was relatively civilized and non violent in his theft and destruction of white property in zim.

Mike

The people I know in Zim who were removed from their land and had it stolen would definitely disagree.

I know 3 people whose farms were taken.

It was a terrible theft and crime.

But there were not 1000 dead people along the way. Peterhouse and other private schools still operated and one could walk around zim without fear of violence.

The theft in zim was a state sanctioned act. A stupid economic policy by a criminal and genocidal regime. But look at what the same regime did relative to the way it treated its black citizens. It was genocidal to its black citizens.

Mike

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Originally posted by shakari:
The flaw in that idea is that converting ZAR to hard currency and/or getting it out of the country & under the watchful eyes of the South African reserve bank isn't easy to say the very least.

Even opening an overseas bank account is a challenge.

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Originally posted by shakari:
The flaw in that idea is that converting ZAR to hard currency and/or getting it out of the country & under the watchful eyes of the South African reserve bank isn't easy to say the very least.

Even opening an overseas bank account is a challenge.

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Originally posted by Opus1:

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Originally posted by shakari:
The flaw in that idea is that converting ZAR to hard currency and/or getting it out of the country & under the watchful eyes of the South African reserve bank isn't easy to say the very least.

Even opening an overseas bank account is a challenge.

It is just as difficult to open a foreign account from anywhere to anywhere these days. International commerce and banking is fraught with a lot of eyes on both sides watching you.