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Sorry to hear about your injury, but it sounds as though you gave at least as good as you got! I wish you a speedy recovery. Folks think that the legal profession is pretty safe, but imagine spending your work days as I do, pissing people off. A lot. People who aren't real "logical thinkers." Impulse control issues. I have practiced as an assistant district attorney for almost twenty years now and am frankly amazed that I have not yet had an encounter like this myself (though as they say, if looks could kill...) We usually have a sheriff's deputy in the courtroom during criminal proceedings, but by no means always. And our bailiff's are rarely armed. Several years ago a friend of mine was representing a client in an unemployment compensation case where the claimant was unrepresented. These hearings usually are very informal: an administrative law judge, the claimant, the employer (and maybe his lawyer) and a tape recorder. Anyway, the hearing wasn't going well for the claimant this time. He got up and pushed the ALJ (a small woman) over onto the floor, tipping a table on top of her. My friend courageously intervened-- and got the shit kicked out of him. | |||
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Are you this aggressive every day or has something bad happened to you today?  | |||
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good luck judge on a speedy recovery,, nothing surprises me much anymore. People are absolutely nutts!!! as evidenced by 700 nitro's post. At my age I don't fight anymore unless I have to just like you did,, I break something everytime I hit or kick something just like you did and those worthless pieces of crap then sue us. We don't heal as fast anymore and just think while you are doing your therapy that it is just training for your next safari,, God Speed you can make more money, you can not make more time | |||
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to norwegian im always like that.might of been a bit over the top but point made. | |||
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700, my sincere apologies. You are a rude, ignorant asshat who has heard of punctuation...you just don't know how to use it. I'll save you some time...you're bad, you're tough, you'll whip my ass, I'm terrified so I'll stop posting on this thread, blah, blah, blah... | |||
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The only point you've made is that you need to get some mental help and that you are a classless coward. | |||
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Judge I've been thinking about what 700 nitro said & maybe he has a point. When you saw the newly convicted felon charging you, you should have yelled TIME OUT, surley he would have honored it, then you could have had the deputies unhandcuff the newly convicted felon, then ya'll could have set some rules (kinda like in Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid), then you could have let him hit you numerous times about the face & the head before you started in on the fight yourself. You know, give him a fair chance. Instead you chose to kick him in his nads, naughty, naughty naughty. Personally, I think you should have shot his sorry ass!!! LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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You certainly made your "point".....Hopefully, one day you will come to understand strength of character and where true strength comes from... If I were like you, I would have just went into a rant about how stupid you seem to be and your apparent lack of any redeeming qualities or traits........... I guess your rage and rants do provide some entertainment value...please go on and thump your chest a bit more... | |||
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Judge, Sorry for your mishap, but sounds like you made sure that the perp had an even worse day. Congrats on that. Put yourself in his shoes. Imagine getting taken back to county in cuffs and explaining to all your fellow miscreants that you are in for sex crimes, and assault on an elderly person, and the reason you have that ungainly limp is because the "elderly gentleman" you assaulted properly kicked your ass. And if he doesn't describe the events with sufficient accuracy, I'm confident the guards will fill in any missing details. I'm betting this is the buzz of the courthouse. I'm sure he will -- Have a nice very nice day! -- thanks to you. | |||
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Judge, Sorry to hear of the injury and your safari predicament. Glad to hear you kicked his ass. Don't try to do too much too fast. We want you well and back into hunting. Max .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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Not too shocking, given his admission and then attempting to escape. Get better. | |||
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When I was a young prosecutor we would pray for these courtroom melees. Gave us an opportunity to jump in and "give back" to the criminal defendant community. Young, foolish and thought we were immortal. Also a reason why a lot of judges pack heat on the bench. One Judge, who is still on the bench, carries two handguns, a main and a back up. ______________________________ "Are you gonna pull them pistols,...or whistle Dixie??" Josie Wales 1866 | |||
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Folks: The guy wasn't convicted yet nor was he handcuffed. The warrant application process is voluntary on the part of the alleged perpetrator. He is not in custody during the process. Only 25% or so of the civilian applications end up in arrest. Most just walk out of the courthouse after the process. It is actually a contested, probable cause hearing to determine if a warrant should be issued. The "prospective defendant" can appear or not, at his/her choice and with or without an attorney. That said, if probable cause is found that a crime has been committed, then the usual procedure is for the judge to orally find such, order the defendant taken into custody right then and there and a warrant is created by clerks. In the meantime the "now" defendant is placed in a holding cell in the courthouse, is served with the warrant after it has been printed and signed and then taken across the street to the jail for processing/bond or is held (on serious charges) in confinement until further legal process. So, 700Nitro is wrong (on a bunch of things) but most obviously, that the guy was handcuffed. He wasn't. He wasn't subject to handcuffing/arrest until the judge found probable cause for the same. the judge ruled and the newly designated "defendant" began his foolishness when a deputy put his hand upon him to direct him through a door and into a secure holding area. In fact, in 40 years of this business, as a prosecutor, defense attorney and a judge, I've only seen three or four defendants come into the courtroom in cuffs and then they had more than that restraining them, like leg irons and a restraint harness. Those guys probably had done some "Hannibal Lecter" stuff. The cuffing (and un-cuffing) is usually accomplished in a secure holding area adjacent to the courtroom in most every courthouse I've visited. I never even liked defendants dressed in jail jump suits in my court even though it was sometimes necessary (but never during a trial if a jury was present).
If 700Nitro missed it earlier: "When the judge told the deputies to take the accused into custody, he, at first, cooperated, then spun away from them swinging fists and elbows. (added: How do you do that with handcuffs on?) Two burly bailiffs tackled him but in a flash he was up and running right at me." Would I do the same thing again. Hell, no!... considering the consequences of what resulted.. I'd have aimed at a softer part of the dude's body, for sure.  And have I ever been in a fight... try one against a ZU-23 albeit, at a slant range of 1500 ft. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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ok might as well sort some of this out, thank you judge for pointing out that there were NO hand cuffs on the target so i apologise for that mistake in canadian court defendandts are not allowed into the court room exp if there coming from a holding cell with out restrains on still im willing to bet it more like 3-4 vs 1 also unless your fighting exp is with hand to hand combat its usless knowing how to use a fighter jet isnt gonna help you in a all out cage fight...but then again your not a fighter nor ever will be your a judge so well call it even you had to do what you had to do in order to protect your self then again iv seen defendants being "sailed" befor... | |||
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I just discovered the ignore posts tab on the website. It works really well, Judge. Click on the user name that obviously doesn't have a clue and their posts disappear. | |||
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Judge, glad you found someone, good luck to her.   As for the perp, glad you "racked them up", I hope they never work for him again. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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700Nitro: Take a look at this video (I'm the fighter on the right) and tell me that I wouldn't be a great cage fighter! JudgeG in the ring! JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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 "There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JudgeG: Folks: The guy wasn't convicted yet nor was he handcuffed. . . . . So, 700Nitro is wrong (on a bunch of things) but most obviously, that the guy was handcuffed. He wasn't. He wasn't subject to handcuffing/arrest until the judge found probable cause for the same. the judge ruled and the newly designated "defendant" began his foolishness when a deputy put his hand upon him to direct him through a door and into a secure holding area. In fact, in 40 years of this business, as a prosecutor, defense attorney and a judge, I've only seen three or four defendants come into the courtroom in cuffs and then they had more than that restraining them, like leg irons and a restraint harness. Those guys probably had done some "Hannibal Lecter" stuff. The cuffing (and un-cuffing) is usually accomplished in a secure holding area adjacent to the courtroom in most every courthouse I've visited. I never even liked defendants dressed in jail jump suits in my court even though it was sometimes necessary (but never during a trial if a jury was present). /QUOTE] Yes, I for one noticed that you had said nothing about handcuffs. It is interesting how so many readers project their own assumptions onto what they read. BTW, folks, a fibula is a calf bone, not part of a foot or ankle. As one of Judge's elders, I know that any of these will break as you get up there in age (I've done it with feet and toes), and so it may well crimp the hunting. Nonetheless, I hope it was a clean break or fracture and that recovery is fast, Bet it hurts, though. I think you have plenty of time to make it to Africa if your schedule otherwise permits. Good luck. I always wonder about those who question a person's right to protect himself. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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Get well soon JudgeG. I just wish you had been wearing your combat boots, even those fighter-pilot-combat boots with the laced-in zippers.  Anjin, The distal (lower) fibula is indeed the lateral malleolus of the ankle. It is both an ankle bone and a leg bone, not a "calf bone," but serves little weight bearing function. The fibula mainly serves as an anchoring surface for various muscles, ligaments, and connective tissues, and completes and stabilizes the ankle. It goes all the way up the leg and has a bony prominence on the lateral (outside) surface of the leg, near the joint between the leg and thigh, which joint we call the knee.  "Brain bone": What 700 nitro has inside his skull.  | |||
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I'm "guessing" if the MMA gym that 700 works out at knew he was randomly challenging geriatrics on the internet to "fight" him in "cage". They "probably" wouldn't be so excited to have him as a member. | |||
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I once had an elderly gentleman make a request of me & after I refused, he challenged me to a fist fight. I didn't mean to be disrespectful of him when I laughed as my thoughs were, if he kicks my butt, I loose, if I kick his butt, I loose. Either way, I lost, plus I have no desire to fight anyone over a simple disagreement let alone a man 40 years my senior whom I very much liked, just wasn't willing to cooperate with his request. Yes, we were still friends after he calmed down. 700 nitro needs some anti-badass therapy. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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+1 Yet another opportunity to use the ignore feature. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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You're an idiot | |||
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LMAO! | |||
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Hey 700 Nitro - I'll bet SureStrike will take you up on that offer! If not, Drummond probably would, I know I would. But, if none of us are up to your standards, I'll bet we can get Drummond's best friend in the cage with ya? In fact, if you can last one round with him, I'll buy you a hunt to anywhere in the world, that you wish to go, guaranteed!! Can't believe someone would call out the "Judge" like that? He deserves alot more respect than that! | |||
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LMAO! A round? If he could last a minute I'd buy him the hunt for any species anywhere in the world. I would say 30 seconds but he might be able to outrun him for that long. 700 Nitro actually challenged a man to a "cage fight" and did it on the internet. What a douchebag! I guarantee you guys he's the kid with bad acne and braces dressed up in a ninja suit or the fat kid in all black tactical gear thats such an intravert he just stays in his room eating ding dongs and ho-ho's and talks tough on the internet. What a pud | |||
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Get well soon Your Honor! P.S. the 32nd post in this thread may explain 700 Nitros' behavior ----> http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/7791057071/p/1 Hey 700 maybe your "Doctor" should up your dose to 30 grams a day. | |||
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Holy cow!! That explains it all.  | |||
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He should have smoked a bowl before posting on this thread | |||
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looks like i got under your skin there bro, i probably should have smoked a bowl befor posting like ya said but i dont all the time obv i pissed a few of ya off thats fine i dont have to be politicaly correct all the time remeber there are trolls on the interent and maybe yall should think that perhaps just perhaps i was trolling the shit out of ya for shits and ill be glad to take your offer of 1 round with any 1 you could possibly find for a free trip for any specie of my choice im in far better shape than you take me for and i fight on a weekly basis for cash so lets get this party started. | |||
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And this is the kind of shit that shows people that hunters are ready to defend each other??????????? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Shush, this is funny! | |||
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I couldn't get my friend to "fight" a guy that challenges people to cage fights on the Internet. He does it for a living and wouldnt waste his time. I'm not even going to mention his name as I don't want his name muddied by being in a thread such as this. | |||
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Oh Man, This gonna be great! I didn't think it would be long before those boys in Colorado would step up. "If you are not working to protect hunting, then you are working to destroy it". Fred Bear | |||
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Sorry, I get in soap box mode and I forget some things are funny. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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"If you are not working to protect hunting, then you are working to destroy it". Fred Bear | |||
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Great signature line.   Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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and that would be a typical reponce ...oh uhhhh i coudnt uhhh find the guy uhhhh because he never even existed even if he dose good for him why get your friend to fight me? are you one of those people that get others to fight for them?would be typical of most people today i have a feeling im wasting my time on this thread altho it has been entertaining for me and im shure others. besides at this rate they will lock the thread as this has absolutly nothing to do with african hunting | |||
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