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BenKK, Good info. Thanks. Is the .275 with similar long bullets what Bell often used for elephants? 30-30 on water buffalo. Yikes. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Absolutely true. My .350 no2 Rigby shoots a 225-grain bullet at just under 2600 fps. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, did they make the 350 Rigby on magnum mauser actions or reg. 98's or both? | |||
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Brian, I have shot buff with a 470,& a 500/416,both worked well. DRSS | |||
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I took my 350RM with 175gr Raptors to Zimbabwe in 2012 for plains game. PH was impressed with it's performance. Using TAC, I'm getting a bit over 3000fps out of my M700. | |||
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Bill73, Now those are apropriate cartridges. When the 500-416 first came out it must have been viewed as a real "hot rod." Thanks for the post, Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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MidgetIdjit, Thanks for the post. That would be a real plains game hammer, I think. Did you like those CEB Raptor bullets? The are some very experience hunters that swear by them. A 175 grain raptor bullet would be nice and long. I have found the 160 grain on their web site but not the 175 gr. They might have discontinued it. Does your M700 have a 24 inch barrel? I am rebarreling my ruger 350RM and can't decide how long to make the barrel. (I like long barrels.) Thanks again for the info, Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Every time I see a post like this and see the responses from hunters who used rifles on the lower end of the power spectrum I wish I could ask if a PH was standing at their shoulder with a 458. I don't think you would see many hunting alone and using these calibers. In my limited experience I have found that a buffalo that has seen you and you are pushing is a totally different animal than one unaware. I have always felt my rifle should be more than adequate should my PH or his weapon be out of action. I like the 416s for buffalo! | |||
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The bullets were some prototypes that CEB sent me. Don't know if they went into production. From 50 yards on the hyena and kudu to the 200 yard shot on the zebra, everything dropped where it stood. Not sure what barrel length. Want to say 22". Whatever came on the Classic when they released it. Ray | |||
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Ray, That is wonderful performance. A "bang flop" on a zebra and Kudu is awesome. I never got it. I keep hearing good and spefic, factual reports of Raptor bullet really killing well. I think the barrel was 22". After talking to you I am, for sure, going to try those raptors in my 350RM. Thanks, Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Here is a link to wet newspaper tests of .375 CEB 235 grain Raptors: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...hp/topics/10853251/1 | |||
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Brian, considering that I found that gif on the internet in the late 1980s she's probably old enough so that age and gravity has made her safe. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Fjold, Whew! That's a relief. Thanks for the update. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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LJS, You hit the nail on the head. For me I would never jack around on cape buffalo with a little rifle if the PH didn't have a good rifle and knew how to use it. ( Those African hunters who are experienced are a different deal than me. They cam safely get away with lots more.) Your limited experience says the same thing as my limited experience. I agree with what you say, completely. I still would like to try it with a good PH. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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bobmm, That is a very useful test of comparison. That guy put a lot of work into it. I wonder where he is from in BC. There were some positive surprises in the research. - The Hornady GMX and the Speer were pretty impressive. That surprised me. - No surprises with the Swift and CEB Raptors. I have used Swift on big animals (not DG) and really like them. Experience hunter say that the Raptors really work. I believe them. - Accubond and Partitions are over-rated IMO and they met my low expectations in this test. I am keeping this report on file. Very good stuff. Thanks for posting it, Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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The 235 gr Speer Hot Core looks great. I would be ideal for my 9.5X57 Mannlicher Schoenauer! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Ahem... I hate to poke holes in your timeline Frank, but Al Gore didn't invent the internet until 1991 All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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It really does come down to "the nut behind the butt" as they say. Elgin Gates was so experienced with his 300 wthby he used it on buff and even killed his biggest ele with it and a 200 grn nosler partition. Gates shot more buff then most, and even stopped a few charges from previously wounded aanimals with brain shots with his .300 | |||
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"The nut behind the Butt" I like that and I sure agree. Also, back in the day the Nosler Partition was a much better bullet and considered one of best. I still have some of those old partition bullets in 30 cal. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Bob, I have to say I agree with you!!!! | |||
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Witnessed a buff just recently hit with ten 300weatherby Partitions that did not instil much confidence. Although they were not the greatest positioned shots I doubt that many shots certainly would not have been nessasary with a more suitable bullet construction and diameter. | |||
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I have only seen the .350 on the regular 98 action. Of course, these are the rimless .350s. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I got good feedback from some very sensible hunter. Thank you. Some of you showed concern for the safety ( and sanity) of anyone who would use a 350RM on Cape Buffalo. I appreciate your advice. Not to worry. I am more talk than action on some these notions that cross my mind. I don't think that I would ever intentionally take my 350 RM for a dedicated cape buffalo hunt. However I sure enjoyied the discussion/education. Thanks again. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Its not in any way a 9.3x62 when both are loaded to their potential...I have shot buffalo with a 7x57 and a 8x57, it was a stunt on my part and not very smart but at the time it was the only rifle that was available to me. Same with the 350 its a stunt to use the 350 on Buffalo, it can be done, but if things go South and they do at times, you just put yourself and your PH in a pickle, and pickles have lead to injury and death..Only on the internet would someone recommend the 350 for Buffalo.. A better question is would you use it without a PH or someone to back you up or would you hunt with a PH who backed you up with one..I wouldn't. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray, That is right, I agree. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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