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Originally posted by gerryb:
Why are SCI and DSC not attacking. This is a legal activity and no different than not making a wedding cake simple discrimination.

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Originally posted by maxart:
Not just Delta... United and AA are partnered in same ban..

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Originally posted by blackdogsrule:
My opinion is to target and boycott any and people, organizations, media that takes a public stand against legal sport hunting. Vote with your feet and your wallet and try to cause them the same pain the anti's are trying to cause us. Write letters, make calls, cancel flights whatever it takes to get heard on this.

BTW has SCI or DSC put out a statement on this? I got some stupid email from SCI regarding corporate sponsors and Swarovski. They are milk toast. Glad to be an NRA member!

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Originally posted by maxart:
United platinum member and just canceled my United credit millage card . flight booked on United to Australia on Aug29th..out of SFO ...canceled and recooked on Quantis for more money but feel very good about.Told them why i was canceling not that they care..
I can play that game...

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Originally posted by gsganzer:
So explain to me the following:

If I was a bakery owner and stated that I would not provide services to a gay couple because I don't believe in gay marriage, I'd be sued, my business boycotted and I'd likely face charges.

However, If I'm an airline and I state that I won't provide service for trophies that were legally taken in compliance with all federal and international laws, I'm completely within my right to do so with no questions asked.

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Originally posted by gsganzer:
So explain to me the following:

If I was a bakery owner and stated that I would not provide services to a gay couple because I don't believe in gay marriage, I'd be sued, my business boycotted and I'd likely face charges.

However, If I'm an airline and I state that I won't provide service for trophies that were legally taken in compliance with all federal and international laws, I'm completely within my right to do so with no questions asked.

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Originally posted by T.J.:

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Originally posted by gsganzer:
So explain to me the following:

If I was a bakery owner and stated that I would not provide services to a gay couple because I don't believe in gay marriage, I'd be sued, my business boycotted and I'd likely face charges.

However, If I'm an airline and I state that I won't provide service for trophies that were legally taken in compliance with all federal and international laws, I'm completely within my right to do so with no questions asked.

Wait, are you suggesting that we just claim that all trophy hunters are gay and maybe they'll lift the ban?



Guess it depends on how bad folks want their trophies, huh?

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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Originally posted by gerryb:
Why are SCI and DSC not attacking. This is a legal activity and no different than not making a wedding cake simple discrimination.

I can't speak for SCI but I can tell you DSC is working on trying to get a reversal.

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So explain to me the following:

If I was a bakery owner and stated that I would not provide services to a gay couple because I don't believe in gay marriage, I'd be sued, my business boycotted and I'd likely face charges.

However, If I'm an airline and I state that I won't provide service for trophies that were legally taken in compliance with all federal and international laws, I'm completely within my right to do so with no questions asked.

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Originally posted by WPN:

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Originally posted by gsganzer:
So explain to me the following:

If I was a bakery owner and stated that I would not provide services to a gay couple because I don't believe in gay marriage, I'd be sued, my business boycotted and I'd likely face charges.

However, If I'm an airline and I state that I won't provide service for trophies that were legally taken in compliance with all federal and international laws, I'm completely within my right to do so with no questions asked.

That is an excellent question.

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Originally posted by T.J.:
Update 1: Looks like they folded, and likely more to come:

USA Today
BBC

Update 2: UPS continues to ship legally hunted trophies:

UPS

I applaud these guys, as should we all. Anyone have experience with these folks when it comes to trophy shipments? Please share.

Feel free to PM updates if you'd like this post updated.

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Originally posted by Beretta682E:

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Originally posted by blackdogsrule:
My opinion is to target and boycott any and people, organizations, media that takes a public stand against legal sport hunting. Vote with your feet and your wallet and try to cause them the same pain the anti's are trying to cause us. Write letters, make calls, cancel flights whatever it takes to get heard on this.

BTW has SCI or DSC put out a statement on this? I got some stupid email from SCI regarding corporate sponsors and Swarovski. They are milk toast. Glad to be an NRA member!

Boycott sounds good and all till you realize you will be boycotting 70 percent of us flights domestic and over 90 percent of us flag flyers overseas.

How many people are willing to give up income and capital to support a boycott for hunting in africa ?

Mike

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Originally posted by larryshores:
My message to Delta:

Message: I am a loyal Delta customer. I have flown approximately 3.5 million miles on Delta. In addition, I pay for approximately 20 people to fly around the country on Delta. I think this should rank me as an above average customer. I am writing to express my extreme displeasure over the decision to no longer accept certain hunting trophies for shipment. Delta has no problem accepting my approximately $8,000 for my August flight to Johannesburg but will not accept my own personal shipment of trophies that are taken in accordance with both local and international law. I am sorry but I cannot comprehend that line of thinking. It seems hypocritical to me and to many others. I had hoped that Delta, an airline that I use religiously would not pander to emotional thinking by a bunch of people who have absolutely no idea of the real world in Africa. These people, while well intentioned, are ultimately going to be responsible for the death of most African wildlife. Hunting is the only possible salvation for Africa's wildlife. Where there is no hunting, almost all wildlife has been wiped out.. Look at Kenya for example. Kenya closed hunting in the 70's. By some estimates, Kenya has lost as much as 87% of its wildlife since the ban. It is really quite simple. There are no grocery stores or restaurants in rural Africa, Protein, a basic staple of human diet, is obtained by POACHING. Often large numbers of snares are set. These are deadly forever. Animals large and small get caught in these snares. They die a horrible death. Even worse is that most of the animals killed are never recovered. When a safari company moves into an area, they do several things including the following: 1- Employ locals 2- provide them with meat from animals harvested 3- Implement anti-poaching patrols The end result is that while the hunters do, in fact, kill some animals, the overall numbers killed are FAR less than what used to be taken by poachers. Hunting is the only way to save these animals. I have seen this over and over. By taking the action taken, Delta is complicit in the destruction of Africa's wildlife. it is that simple. I respectfully request that Delta reconsider its position. Thank you.


Delta's response:

Dear Mr. Shores,

RE: Case Number 16935006

Thank you for contacting us with your concerns about our decision about hunting trophies.

We are sorry to hear of your extreme displeasure about our recent change.
Delta has banned the shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight. Prior to this ban, Delta's strict acceptance policy called for absolute compliance with all government regulations regarding protected species. Delta will also review the acceptance policies for other hunting trophies with the appropriate government agencies and other organizations that support legal shipments.

We value customer feedback and appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We understand your feelings surrounding this issue, and we are grateful you took the time to let us know how our actions have been perceived. Your concerns have been reported to the appropriate leadership for internal review. Thank you for your loyalty as a 3 Million Miler Diamond Medallion.

Sincerely,

Lauren McKenzie
Diamond Desk
delta.com

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Originally posted by venda axe:
I sent my email to Delta. Have You?

Bob

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Boycotts will do absolutely nothing as hunters are too few in number. If every hunter didn't fly Delta, they would not notice it a bit. I've said it before, we are fighting a losing battle.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Boycotts will do absolutely nothing as hunters are too few in number. If every hunter didn't fly Delta, they would not notice it a bit. I've said it before, we are fighting a losing battle.
Cal