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................................................................. Saying plenty of people here knowing you, is not saying anything more than I just did. Son if you think you have anything actionable be my guest! You talk a big talk but IMO you haven't walked the walk! You remind me of the Indian's opinion of the white man offering a treaty! "BIG WIND COME FROM EMPTY CAVE!" IMO you are simply a troll who loves to start carp, while hiding behind a key board, cutting and pasting things from someone else's books! Too bad because you write well, and seem to be a pretty sharp guy, who could contribute a lot to this forum if you would just get of the pot stirring, and fishing posts! You do a lot of scanning the internet for something to post, but when all is said and done you are nothing but a copy clerk, who likes to take things out of context to start trouble. The perfect place for your crap posts is in the political cesspool. ............................................................... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Trax has vanished back into "Hide Post" on my 'puter. Something productive has come of this thread for me: There are rumors of bullets at GSC that I forgot about if I ever knew of them. GSC has so many different bullet designs they are hard pressed to catalog all of them in all the lists, technical info, pricing for orders, etc. 411317HV276: This one is supposed to be .4115"/.4035" and weighs 317 grains. Has been used for 400 H&H and .411 KDF? 411325HV170: ??? and 412300HV153: ??? Anybody here used any of these HV bullets in their 400 H&H, .411 KDF, 400 Whelen, or 405 WCF? CLASSIC WILDCATS RELOADED Not just a rip-off. Certified by R.I.P. | |||
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TRAX, I never said anything about your financial dealings, nor do I care. There is more than one way someone can be a fraud, and yours is because I don't think you know as much as you seem to want people to think. Anyone can cut and paste from something on the web. I know nothing about your financial dealings, nor do I care to, but my opinion is based on what you post here. Why does anyone here owe you proof of anything? you can disagree , but so can others! That concept seem lost on you. On top of that, IMO, you are simply a trouble maker who seems to have psychological need to cause mayhem in every thread I've seen with your name as author! This seems to be a game with you, but your trolling is not going unnoticed by most here. You can't seem to get along with anyone. When a person has that problem, the place to look for the reason is in the mirror! Get over yourself TRAX! .......................................................................... ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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MacD37- Give it up. Trax is a troll, has never hunted africa and never will. When I came to this conclusion sometime ago, I simply put him on my Ignore List so that I don't have to read his useless blather. There is only one reason he posts on the African Big Game Hunting forum and that is to . I urge you, and everyone else, to simply put him on ignore and stop posting replies. Your replies are exactly what he wants and only encourage him. Cheers Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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You are right LH! I have known what he was from the start, and you are right, the only way is to starve him to death by not feeding the little parasite! I hope you feel honored TRAX, after 11673 plus 3000 post I lost on the change of server at AR, you are the proud receiver of the honor of being the first person to ever be put on IGNORE by me! You are so rare you may be considered a collector's item! .....Or a malignant tumor, It's a toss up which you are but in any event you've been cut out! ........................................................................ ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Over the past few seasons I have witnessed the use of several different weights of C.E.B non-cons/safari Raptors and E.S.P Raptors in calibers which included; * .500 N.E * .50 B&M * .500 MDM * .50 Super Short * .475 B&M * .416 B&M * .416 Rem * 9.3 B&M The above cartridges were employed in the use of taking numbers of our Asiatic buffalo, in Australia, a large bodied, thick-skinned bovine. The number of animals (test sample) I have now witnessed taken with these projectiles exceeds 100. I am able to confidently report that the inherent structure and design of these projectiles makes them extremely suitable and successful when employed on thick skinned game. In all cases penetration has been excellent, straight-lined and, depending on the caliber and velocity of the cartridge propelling them, totally reliable in reaching vitals from poor angles. The trauma created from the sperating petals needs to be witnessed to be fully appreciated. I understand there will be a lot of "old-school" guys that will shudder at the concept of a fragmenting projectile for use on thick-skinned, dangerous game, as I personally was originally dubious. I'm just glad I had the where-with-all to save judgement until after testing. I am now personally using these projectiles exclusively in my main two back-up rifles, a bolt-gun .500 Ultra mag with 450gn Raptor at 2400fps and a V.C .500 N.E with 475gn Raptors at 2400fps. The results of hitting buffalo with the above mentioned needs to be seen to be beleived ! I have anchored fleeing, wounded buffalo from all angles, in all positions, in the open and in timber and heavy brush with the same consistent results, sometimes despite less than great bullet placement. Some memorable knock-downs on animals in full flight have been both dramatic and very impressive. It is my personal opinion that these bullets are the very best I have experienced in the use on heavy bovines and will continue to use them exclusively and rely on their performance when the chips are down. Cheers, Paul. | |||
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Like Paul I have also been fortunate to have seen these CEB bullets go to work on many occasions. After seeing the results on probably a dozen African Cape Buffalo, Elephant, Hippo, Crocodile and heaps of plains game like Wildebeest, Zebra etc.. the CEB bullets in my opinion is the perfect bullet for Africa, whether it is a 30 cal. bullet for plains game or the larger Calibres for big game. I recall the first buffalo I saw taking a 500 cal. non con (as it was called in the beginning) in the middle of the stomach. The buffalo ran a 100 yards and piled up under a tree giving us the opportunity to walk right up to him and my client could finish him up with a second shot. Later on at the skinning shed we were all amazed to see what terminal trauma this bullet caused. With the same shot and with a normal conventional soft nose or solid this Buffalo would have gone a long way before slowing down. For the BBW#13 solids that CEB bullets are making and that I am using in my 500 MDM I can honestly said that it has the best penetration abilities than any other bullet I have seen in Africa. Do not go for a shoulder shot on a Elephant with a BBW#13 when there is another Elephant behind because it will go through! One of the great experiences I had with the bbw#13 was with a buffalo. On approaching the "dead" Buffalo that was lying 10 yards from us he decided to go for another round and got up on his 4 feet, my client shot him between the eyes and gave him a second shot between the eyes as he was down. Because this was also a bullet testing mission we were all very excited to see where the bullets ended up. Well the first bullet excited the scull at the back of the neck as we presumed. The second bullet went through the whole entire body from between the eyes through the neck the stomach and exited under the tail,I then saw a whole in the ground behind the buffalo and started digging,I took out a BBW#13 bullet out of the ground. The animal reactions are also extreme on impact, specially with the Non cons or Raptor bullets and even my trackers now gives a sigh of relieve when they see these bullets loaded in the rifles. | |||
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From CCMDoc: Elephant with 900g solid-incredible penetration. This one recovered solid had traversed from right occiput to left zygoma These CEB bullets have certainly made their mark as a well proven bullet. Santa Claus | |||
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What a contest. Based solely on Michael458's information that was posted on AR and on his website, I tried (and will stick to) CEB's. He has contributed more for us that are looking for a premium bullet that does exactly what it is supposed to than anyone else I have seen. Bullet performance is exactly as described and the internal trauma is unbelievable. I think He can back his stuff up and Dan and the crew at CEB are extremely helpful, knowledgeable and are there to get you taken care of. The OP just asked for real life experience with the CEB's. Sheesh | |||
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Trax, So far nobody has answered the above question, and the only reason must be that nobody actually cares that it is of major importance, making it inconsequential if one stays inside the maximum pressure ceiling. Furthermore the manufacturer’s loading instructions differ. So the real question should rather be how would this help you if you are not using CEB bullets? Tell us why you should you care about it? Pieter die 4de | |||
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"CEB are rather fortunate, that they don't have Michael458 as an official representative of their products" Trax, Michael has fired thousands of shots in testing CEB bullets - show us what you have done. You criticise all that other shooters have done, but publish some of your work so we can see. You seem to have an agenda to promote yourself as a guru here on many different facets. You have also called Michael a "backyard person" as not being a professional lab. Tell us what pressure tests you have done personally. Also tell us if you have done it in your backyard or in an accredited ballistic lab. Also post some pictures and certified results that you obtained to prove that you are not a backyard person. In all your posts, we have not seen a single picture .... why is that? Pieter die 4de | |||
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and the silence is deafening. you dont expect him to actually respond, do you? in typical fashion he has struck and then disappeared Bob | |||
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The way of the serpent... Pieter die 4de | |||
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