quote:

Originally posted by boarkiller:
Funny.
Who cares Dude. Even if he was, it don't make no difference.
And if it does to some. Again, who cares. He wrote great memoir and as a hunter , that's good enough for me.

quote:

Originally posted by Ridgeman:
Your perception of Pondoro is your issue.
Probably best left that way too.
His hunting history remains legendary and you won't change that .
Find something else to do this weekend.

quote:

Originally posted by Leopardtrack:


With that said, I wouldn't want to drop the soap in front of him

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So I was browsing for more Africana and stumbles across Taylors "Shadows of Shame". Reading the description it seems the person selling it says Taylor was a homosexual and was expelled from Africa and the book is about a bisexual house servant pleasuring the occupants. Is this True? If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
and his private life is none of anyone's business.

quote:

Originally posted by Trax:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
and his private life is none of anyone's business.

bit hard when you become a celebrity,
ones whole life comes under the microscope of the public, fans and critics.

quote:

I seriously doubt One Single Animal Of ANY Kind that he killed asked him if he was a Queer or not!

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So I was browsing for more Africana and stumbles across Taylors "Shadows of Shame". Reading the description it seems the person selling it says Taylor was a homosexual and was expelled from Africa and the book is about a bisexual house servant pleasuring the occupants. Is this True? If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor.

I could not care less about all this.

I enjoyed his writing, and his private life is none of anyone's business.

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So I was browsing for more Africana and stumbles across Taylors "Shadows of Shame". Reading the description it seems the person selling it says Taylor was a homosexual and was expelled from Africa and the book is about a bisexual house servant pleasuring the occupants. Is this True? If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor.

quote:

Originally posted by chuck375:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So I was browsing for more Africana and stumbles across Taylors "Shadows of Shame". Reading the description it seems the person selling it says Taylor was a homosexual and was expelled from Africa and the book is about a bisexual house servant pleasuring the occupants. Is this True? If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor.

I could not care less about all this.

I enjoyed his writing, and his private life is none of anyone's business.

The man was a great hunter and a great writer not else matters. One hopes he was kind to children Other than that his sexual preferences are his own.

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:
Since we all know of and admire Taylor for what he did, his private life should not even come into the picture. Capstick is to blame as he was writing tabloid crap to sell books. Taylor did enough in the world of double rifles, ballistics, and hunting African game to sell his knowledge on his own. When I first read the work by PHC I was disappointed and he fell from grace in my eyes.

45 years after I'm gone, I hope those on AR will mention my name as one who wrote on double rifles, not of my …..
Cheers, mates.
Cal

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So I was browsing for more Africana and stumbles across Taylors "Shadows of Shame". Reading the description it seems the person selling it says Taylor was a homosexual and was expelled from Africa and the book is about a bisexual house servant pleasuring the occupants. Is this True? If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor.

quote:

Originally posted by Ridgeman:
Perhaps gunslinger is unaware this is a novel - the only fiction Taylor wrote .
Does this help make it a little more comfortable ?
Oh - and by the way Leopardtrack, it's no longer the weekend down here.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:
Since we all know of and admire Taylor for what he did, his private life should not even come into the picture. Capstick is to blame as he was writing tabloid crap to sell books. Taylor did enough in the world of double rifles, ballistics, and hunting African game to sell his knowledge on his own. When I first read the work by PHC I was disappointed and he fell from grace in my eyes.

45 years after I'm gone, I hope those on AR will mention my name as one who wrote on double rifles, not of my …..
Cheers, mates.
Cal

Cal,

You do live in Alaska, so you might enjoy this.

Enoch was a young man who got involved in a bike gang.

He had a great time. What will that drinking and women freely available.

Aftera while he had enough, and decided to change his life.

He went to Alaska, built himself a cabin, and lived by trapping and fishing.

One day he was at his cabin, when there is a knock at his door.

He opened it.

"Howdy neighbor, I am George, I live 50 miles thataway, and I am having a party next weekend and would like to invite you"

"Great, I would love to come, thank you. I have not seen many people for years"

"I just want to warn you, there is going to be lots of boozing and wild sex"

"It is OK, I used to be in a motor bike gang, and had plenty of both"

"OK, see you then"

"Oh what shall I wear??"

"Anything you like, there is only going to be you and me!"

quote:

Originally posted by Trax:
Why did Crapstick and Marsh find the need to add regular conjecture in various chapters about Taylors sexual preference?

Don't get me wrong, I like to know greater depth of famous peoples lives and not just about their hunting exploits,
But you don't dwell on those other private issues.

Eg;
It interests me to know that Hemingway suicided with his shotgun and his father suicided with a pistol,
as well as what eventually happened to other members of his family,like his son Gregory that had gender reassignment surgery,
to then become known as Gloria Hemingway.

quote:

Originally posted by Thunder Head:
Your perception is already changed.

Mine was too!!!

Dosent make you a homophobe or a bad person. Plain and simple, If you read one of his books you would never in a million years suspect he was anything but your typical African hunter.

quote:

Originally posted by billrquimby:

quote:

Originally posted by Trax:
Why did Crapstick and Marsh find the need to add regular conjecture in various chapters about Taylors sexual preference?

Don't get me wrong, I like to know greater depth of famous peoples lives and not just about their hunting exploits,
But you don't dwell on those other private issues.

Eg;
It interests me to know that Hemingway suicided with his shotgun and his father suicided with a pistol,
as well as what eventually happened to other members of his family,like his son Gregory that had gender reassignment surgery,
to then become known as Gloria Hemingway.

Peter Capstick and Brian Marsh wrote a biography, and a damn good one. It was widely rumored in Africa and England that Taylor was a homosexual in an time when homosexuality was considered "a crime against nature." If they had not provided what evidence they had about his sexuality, they would have done a disservice to readers who bought their book to learn more about the man's life. It may be there, but I don't remember anywhere in their book where they stated flat-out that he was gay or wrote negatively about homosexuality.

Bill Quimby

quote:

today so called "celebrities" it is rather special to be queer, and if you do not agree with them then you are ignoramus idiot!

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
Thanks for a sensible reply. I was only asking about the FACTS but I see it just brought up a bunch of EMOTION like it always does. Can't even have a rational conversation about the FACTS. Funny I figured that was going to happen. In no way am I downplaying him at all, I am just a little shocked it was a big "secret" and that he had the guts to write about a story such as "shadows of shame". I am just curious and he was by no means the first or only Gay African hunter. I did not know he was expelled from Africa for homosexual intolerance. I am not "anti gay" but I am not a PC throw it in your face alternative lifestyler and think they are a special class. I just wanted to know the facts. And apparently no one really does by the emotional responses lacking facts. I was interested in buying marauder and maneaters and shadow of shame 2 pack I guess I will so maybe I'll actually learn something about the man.

quote:

Originally posted by Thunder Head:
Your perception is already changed.

Mine was too!!!

Dosent make you a homophobe or a bad person. Plain and simple, If you read one of his books you would never in a million years suspect he was anything but your typical African hunter.

quote:

Originally posted by eagle27:

quote:

Originally posted by gunslinger55:
Thanks for a sensible reply. I was only asking about the FACTS but I see it just brought up a bunch of EMOTION like it always does. Can't even have a rational conversation about the FACTS. Funny I figured that was going to happen. In no way am I downplaying him at all, I am just a little shocked it was a big "secret" and that he had the guts to write about a story such as "shadows of shame". I am just curious and he was by no means the first or only Gay African hunter. I did not know he was expelled from Africa for homosexual intolerance. I am not "anti gay" but I am not a PC throw it in your face alternative lifestyler and think they are a special class. I just wanted to know the facts. And apparently no one really does by the emotional responses lacking facts. I was interested in buying marauder and maneaters and shadow of shame 2 pack I guess I will so maybe I'll actually learn something about the man.

quote:

Originally posted by Thunder Head:
Your perception is already changed.

Mine was too!!!

Dosent make you a homophobe or a bad person. Plain and simple, If you read one of his books you would never in a million years suspect he was anything but your typical African hunter.

No gunslinger55 you were not just asking for the FACTS, before you even got them confirmed, you made it known what your personal feelings about Taylor would be if the FACTS were confirmed "If so It will forever change my perception of Pondoro Taylor."

That is why you got "a bunch of EMOTION". Do you really think most of us give a shit about his sexual orientation or religion or anything else about his private life. All most of us think of him was that we share a common interest in hunting and firearms and are envious of the adventures he had on the Dark Continent and the pleasure we gain from reading of these and from his sharing of knowledge and experience with the range of firearms used in his time. Life is too short for us to worry about whatever else he got up to in his life.

I suppose some just have to invoke their own preferences in life on others and of course you and those are perfectly free to do so but don't be surprised if you invoke reaction from others when doing so.

Perhaps if Taylor had been a complete drunken heterosexual maniac he would have been more acceptable in the hunters fold