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16 October 2013, 06:30
AnotherAZWriter
DCS Rhino Hunt Subject to the Anti Hunting Mob
Dog pile on hunters:

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/1...ntion/#axzz2hKX6LDDa

Looks like the comments are about 40 to 1 against hunting.


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16 October 2013, 06:33
BNagel
Pretty dumb PR move.


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16 October 2013, 08:44
DonW28
Hard to believe those comments were posted on a website dedicated to shooting. DSC needs a better press release policy.


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16 October 2013, 17:43
ledvm
This is just like the thread in the PF where a healthcare worker was not aware of Obamacare...how can a living person in the US be so uninformed.

Well...these idiots want to claim intellectual superiority...BUT...ARE TOO DAMNED STUPID to understand basic reproductive physiology and economics.

Rhino are no different than anything else..."ain't no such thing as a free lunch"...SOMEBODY PAYS for it.


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16 October 2013, 19:41
tendrams
I have a Ph.D. in economics and can make my undergrads get the basic principles of environmental economics in about an hour. The problem is that most of these people opposed to the rhino hunt will not take an hour to think about these issues. This is at least partially because the know they will not like the answers they reach. In stead they are willing to "conserve" a species into extinction rather than even possibly consider an alternative. I always ask my anti-hunting friends, "Do you want more rhino or do you want THIS rhino because you cannot have both."
16 October 2013, 19:52
Zig Mackintosh
Tendrams,

That is a very interesting observation. Do you think that you could give us an outline here (in point form) of the basic principles of environmental economics? I am sure that many of us here would be interested.


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16 October 2013, 20:13
MARK H. YOUNG
Guys,

To anyone willing to give it some thought the auctioning off of this rhino with the prceeds going to conservation makes perfect sense and obviously is a good thing. To these anti hunting zealots the "killing" of the animal is so repugnant that it negates any justification for the killing. That is scary to me as I don't see a way to educate these folks if they won't listen and these same people continue to spread their misguided philosophy daily.

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16 October 2013, 20:57
eyeman
It truly is a shame that this publicity gets the antis..Maybe they should read the just published report on CNN about how poachers are using helicopters to kill the rhinos in Sabi Sands in South Africa and see how much they are willing to donate to curb those criminals. Sorry don't have the link to the story, but maybe someone can get it.


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16 October 2013, 21:02
eyeman
Here it is
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10...index.html?hpt=hp_c5


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17 October 2013, 05:08
Wendell Reich
They will all yell and scream, but if they truly wanted to save this Rhino, their money is as good as anyone else.

Buy it. You don't have to shoot it. Take it home with you. If you are so upset, pool your money and bid on it!

What ... no bidding at all from the anti-hunting crowd??? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Once again, sportsmen bear the Lions share of conservation funding.
17 October 2013, 05:13
Trax
Asian country embassy staff in SthAfrica, are involved in the illegal trade/purchase of Rhino horn for the Asian consumer market.
With the advantage of having diplomatic immunity.

In addition to that, Asian nationals are paying above market hunt prices, to shoot a trophy Rhino and are then instructing camp staff not to
bother with trophy prep......They are then able to get the horn out of Africa, via legal CITES permits.

Vietnamese nationals reportedly conducted 203 white rhino hunts in SA 2005 - 2007,a yielded 406 rhino horns.
SA exports, only account for 268 horns exported to Viet Nam during this same period,
suggesting that one-third of these hunts took place without the subsequent acquisition of CITES documents.



>> http://www.savetherhino.org/rh...on_on_trophy_hunting .. coffee
17 October 2013, 05:32
boarkiller
Economic embargo on them and no visas
That might teach them
Tough to do it to China though.


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17 October 2013, 14:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
They will all yell and scream, but if they truly wanted to save this Rhino, their money is as good as anyone else.

Buy it. You don't have to shoot it. Take it home with you. If you are so upset, pool your money and bid on it!

What ... no bidding at all from the anti-hunting crowd??? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Once again, sportsmen bear the Lions share of conservation funding.


clap This is so true. They all jump up and down but are not willing to do what needs to be done.


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17 October 2013, 17:48
L. David Keith
That anti crowd is always long on mouth and short on money. They never contribute to conservation. In fact, many have been quoted as saying they'd rather see animals extinct than to hunt one. Mental midgets, the lot of them. BTW; if I owned that web site, there would be zero posts from anti-hunters on my page. They would be banned immediately. They contact all their like minded minions and advise them to "pour it on." Bad job on the Admin's part. LDK



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17 October 2013, 22:54
Gayne C. Young
I moderate DSC's Facebook page and Game Trails Online. I can say that we've gotten tons of hate comments / emails over this rhino hunt. Although my days is filled deleting these things I have to say that the outcry hasn't been as bad as I thought. The antis favorite target are cats. Leopards usually garner several hundred hate emails. Poor rhino just isn't as pretty I guess.
On the bright side, a few people have commented that while they don't agree with hunting they can see the merit in such a hunt.




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17 October 2013, 23:35
Saeed
Gayne,

You might wish to remind those idiots that if they stop feeding on beef and pork from the supermarket, then both cows and pigs will be extinct!

Cannot these brainless nitiwits get it into their heads that it take lots of money to raise and keep these animals?

Where do they think this should come from?


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18 October 2013, 00:08
bwana cecil
quote:
Cannot these brainless nitiwits get it into their heads that it take lots of money to raise and keep these animals?Where do they think this should come from?

By taxing me & any other working person, just like they do for anything else.


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18 October 2013, 00:20
Gayne C. Young
I've pointed out repeatedly that this animal is an old bull that will have to be killed by rangers anyway...
Hunting's evil!
No one wants to keep rhinos anymore, landowners don't want an animal that poachers target on their property
Hunting's evil!
The tag could go for $1 million, all of which will go to rhino conservation
Hunting's evil!
It would take several hundred thousand photo safaris to equal that amount, most of which stays with the photo operator
Hunting's evil!
Thank you. We must agree to disagree
Hunting's evil!
Have a nice day
Hunting's evil!
Good bye
Hunting's evil!
God bless
Hunting's evil!
Praise be to Allah
Hunting's evil!
Hope you have a great day
Hunting's evil!




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18 October 2013, 10:32
BrettAKSCI
Gayne,

There's no reasoning with the impassioned or idiotic.

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19 October 2013, 23:52
Gayne C. Young
Very true Brett...but I try




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20 October 2013, 00:44
Sean Russell
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Gayne,

You might wish to remind those idiots that if they stop feeding on beef and pork from the supermarket, then both cows and pigs will be extinct!

Cannot these brainless nitiwits get it into their heads that it take lots of money to raise and keep these animals?

Where do they think this should come from?


Amen-

Saeed is 100 % correct


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20 October 2013, 06:36
Navaluk
I've spoken to enough people that I can no longer support any form of democracy based on the simple qualification of being at least 18 years old to vote. This thread does nothing to change my mind.
20 October 2013, 07:33
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the Roman Republic had it right. only those with military service or who owned property should be allowed to vote....


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20 October 2013, 13:19
Jan Dumon
In Africa democracy amounts to one man , one vote , one time - and then hold onto that power by any means possible. I agree with jdollar sentiment but would add tax payer ( as opposed to purely consumer ) to the list of prerequisites . I think we're running this thread off topic somewhat ...


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21 October 2013, 07:40
cable68
I've said it before many times, can't reason with the anti-hunters. In many ways who we need to concentrate on getting the conservation message to are the non-hunters whose minds haven't been totally poisoned and haven't become anti hunters yet.


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