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I didn't want to highjack the other Namibia animal thread so here goes. In regards to sable, roan, sitatunga, and red lechwe: Where are they native to in Namibia if at all? Are there areas where they are on license in their native habitat? I'm under the impression that the Caprivi has all of the above, but not all are on license. I'm fairly clueless about their natural distribution across the rest of Namibia and if they are hunted off game farms (in their natural habitat). Thanks Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | ||
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When I was making calls to references about the outfitter I was researching in Namibia one of the hunters wanted a sable. The outfitters land is three strand cattle fenced as the critters are free range. The PH took the guy to another bordering high fenced concession to “hunt†his Sable. The guy told me he felt bad afterwards because the Sable just seem to stand there and look at him as if he was bringing him lunch when he shot him. Sounded a lot like put & take to me. The guy fully admitted the PH told him that Sable was not available in the area and they would need to travel to a farm to get one. I don’t want any part of a put & take. Just not what I’m interested in and that’s why I started the other thread. Not trying to hijack yours but I thought you might want to know what I learned. The one post about "reintroduced" game was something I didn't think about though. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Frostbit That has no interest for me either. I think traveling to the different places where the animals are found and seeing the places and having the experiences is half the fun of hunting them. Even if it is more expensive and I don't end up taking every animal I would like to at least I'll be proud of what I have. That's why high fence put-take hunts have no interest to me. Besides who wants to travel half way around the world to hunt a farm when there’s true wilderness to hunt? I guess it’s not just about killing for me or having some kind of half assed zoo in my house. Does anyone else have answers to my questions? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Roan can be found indigenously in Kavongo and Caprivi.The rest are only found naturally in Caprivi. They are mostly transients and I do not know if any are found now in huntable numbers. We seldom get to choose But I've seen them go both ways And I would rather go out in a blaze of glory Than to slowly rot away! | |||
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eyedoc Thanks. Does anyone know if roan are on license in the Kavongo or if sable, roan, sitatunga, lechwe are on license in the Caprivi? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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As far as I know Sitatunga and Lechwe are not on license on any Caprivi block. Roan and Sable are available in very limited numbers in Western Caprivi. | |||
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I shot a roan in the West Caprivi (Caprivi Strip) in 2003. As far as I know, this is the only Caprivi concession that has had quota for roan (Edit - see below). The quota was low, one maybe two, ditto with the sable there. Again, this was the West Caprivi areas (which I do not think are being hunted right now), I am not familiar with the East Caprivi areas. | |||
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Wendell I kind of thought that was the case with sitatunga and lechwe. Do you know who hunts western Caprivi if anyone? Brett Thanks Bill. Where haven't you hunted?  DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Right now nobody knows. Last year Alan Cillers had one of the blocks, but that was a one year deal. I believe Wambach had the other side of that area? Not 100% on that. We will see what happens this year, if anything. It would be nice to hunt all of those critters in Namibia, but all of them are very plentiful in Zambia, plus they have two flavors of Lechwe there! | |||
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Kai-Uwe Denker may have a quota for roan in his Nyae-Nyae concession. I recently read an article about a hunter who shot a roan on that concession last year. Kai-Uwe of course also wrote about hunting roan on his West of Khaudum concession north of bushmanland years ago. Seems I saw somewhere that he has another concession to the north of this area in the western Caprivi that may have roan as well(?). While I don't know the date of the hunt, I also read an article in the 2008 Huntinamibia magazine about a hunter who shot a sable in the Bwabwata concession in the West Caprivi. "...Africa. I love it, and there is no reason for me to explore why. She affects some people that way, and those who feel as I do need no explanation." from The Last Safari | |||
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Your header says Royal Antelope (Neotragus pygmaeus) are found from Guinea to southern Nigeria. The #1 came from Liberia in 1971 by none other than C.J. McElroy. The Red Lechwe (Kobus leche leche) are indigenous to Botswana, parts of Angola, NW Zambia, Katanga and Caprivi. Introduced specimens are found throughout USA, RSA, Namibia and other countries. You also have Nile, Black and Kafue Lechwe. Common Sable (Hippotragus niger niger) are indigenous to Caprivi, N. RSA, Angola, Botswana, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Mozambique, DRCongo/Zaire & Tanzania. You also have the East African/Roosevelt & Royal Sable. For Roan, you have: Southern, Sudan, Angolan, Western & East African. Good hunting, David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Wendell, that is correct. Allan had Babwhata East (of the old Caprivi Game park, in other words, the actual pan handle of the Caprivi, also considered western Caprivi), and John had Babwhata west. Both will likely have sable and roan on licence, when MET gives out the tender later this year (hopefully later this month, lets hold thumbs.) Roan and to a smaller degree sable can also be found in Bushmanland, Kavango region, around Khaudum especially. As far as I know, the PG part of the Naye Naye concession are not hunted by Kai Uwe, but by Black Nossob Safaris, Ernst Ludwig Cramer. I know that some of the guys that did their qualifying on elephant last year with me, namely Ziggi Hess, also hunted there, I think with Ernst-Ludwig. If someone is interested in hunting that area, I can supply some contact details. Karl Stumpfe Ndumo Hunting Safaris www.huntingsafaris.net karl@huntingsafaris.net P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia Cell: +264 81 1285 416 Fax: +264 61 254 328 Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264 | |||
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L David, thanks for getting these people straight, like you when I saw the heading I was curious that any one would be looking for Royal Antelope in Namabia. They need to have some what of an idea of what theyu are looking for, eh.  | |||
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My apologies on the confusion. No I haven't lost my mind. I was not referring to the species royal antelope, but was rather referring to a classification of highly prized plains game that I have read and heard referred to as royal antelope. Thanks. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Brett, David is right, however, it is also not uncommon to hear Sable and Roan referred to as "Royal Anteloppe" as a class of animals rather than a specie. | |||
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Thanks all. I appreciate the feedback. I was more asking for knowledge sake rather than planning a hunt. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Karl - I was told by Ernst-Ludwig that his area in Bushmanland is "next to" Denker's. And yes, he must indeed have roan there as here is a picture of one they shot in Aug-2007 (trophy fee €3,000 - that's ~$4700 USD!):  | |||
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Here's one of the real royal antelopes. Neat little guys...  _______________________________  | |||
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Brett, I did understand where you were coming from, just wanted to clarify in case someone was left confused. I agree completely, if there is such a thing as a "Royal", it surely would be the Sable. I've had the pleasure of seeing Sable, even held my cross hair's on them before, and when I was a Taxidermist, no other trophy gave me more enjoyment. They are at the top in my humble opinion. And thanks YD for the pic. That little guy would be a real trophy! David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Is the Royal the smallest of the pygmy or is the Bates the smallest. Now there are some trophies! | |||
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DOJ: the Royal is smallest at 3.3 to 6.6 lbs. Followed by the Bates or Dwarf Antelope at 4.4 to 6.6 lbs. They are relatives of the Suni. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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