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Originally posted by Navaluk:
I would be interested to know the name of the agent who tried to sell his business to SCI and the names of those agents who consulted with SCI as they did their research before launching this venture.

Apparently some agents are upset about the competition, yet it looks like SCI would have never considered this without other agents pointing it out and giving the SCI folks another way to make money and/or get free hunts.

Could Blair be involved?

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Joyce and I have been to 3 or 4 SCI conventions but because of clinic constraints we could only attend for 1 1/2 days.

We were looking forward to attending the entire event in 2015 since I am retiring in December.

I will be watching this closely. If the idea of a boycott gains traction then I would have no reason to spend the money on attendance and the trip. Might have to give DSC a shot instead.

For me, at this point, I go to SCI to meet up with outfitters, agents, and friends mostly. If a fair amount of those folks are not going to be there neither will we.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
Here is how this vote was taken, at least based upon what i was told.

A budget document well over 100 pages long was e mailed shortly before the meeting. There was a short blurb on SCI Outdoors over 100 pages into the document. The blurb said nothing to indicate the reality of what was proposed. There was zero discussion .

This is how a 147-0 vote was accomplished.

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Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents.

quote:

Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've given this a little more thought and I think it may actually be a great deal for hunters. Kind of like how Amazon and Apple are good for consumers but horrible for writers, musicians, and all their associated support organizations. SCI likes to throw their weight around and this booking operation will give them an even better venue to operate is such a manner.

The best dates with the best outfitters (whether in Africa, Alaska, Mongolia or wherever) are always in short supply. SCI will gobble-up those dates post haste. The outfitters will cooperate because it (along with a hunt donation) will guarantee their position in the convention placement hierarchy. The second-rate outfitters will grovel at the feet of SCI so as to break into the "preferred vendor" group. This means even more free trips for the SCI honchos.

SCI doesn't need to "have a booth" at the convention. The ENTIRE CONVENTION is their BOOTH! All their preferred-vendor outfitters will be directing their erstwhile customers to SCI because SCI already has the best dates locked up and the outfitters have to tow the line to stay on the preferred vendor list. Remember, there's a bunch of groveling outfitters just chomping at the bit to take their place.

It's also a plus that SCI is getting into the travel business as well. It would be nice that the travelling hunter has an "integrated solution" from one provider so they don't have to deal with the Susans, and Shawns and Kathis of the world.

Having a world-class agent with the most comprehensive offering from the best outfitters is a real benefit for hunters. We'll have someone looking out for us every step of the way...from getting a tag to booking a hunt and booking a flight. Who really wants to piecemeal all the details themselves. Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents. Perhaps they can turn their client lists over to SCI and then maybe get jobs sweeping floors at the convention.

All hail to the new hunting paradigm.

quote:

Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've given this a little more thought and I think it may actually be a great deal for hunters. Kind of like how Amazon and Apple are good for consumers but horrible for writers, musicians, and all their associated support organizations. SCI likes to throw their weight around and this booking operation will give them an even better venue to operate is such a manner.

The best dates with the best outfitters (whether in Africa, Alaska, Mongolia or wherever) are always in short supply. SCI will gobble-up those dates post haste. The outfitters will cooperate because it (along with a hunt donation) will guarantee their position in the convention placement hierarchy. The second-rate outfitters will grovel at the feet of SCI so as to break into the "preferred vendor" group. This means even more free trips for the SCI honchos.

SCI doesn't need to "have a booth" at the convention. The ENTIRE CONVENTION is their BOOTH! All their preferred-vendor outfitters will be directing their erstwhile customers to SCI because SCI already has the best dates locked up and the outfitters have to tow the line to stay on the preferred vendor list. Remember, there's a bunch of groveling outfitters just chomping at the bit to take their place.

It's also a plus that SCI is getting into the travel business as well. It would be nice that the travelling hunter has an "integrated solution" from one provider so they don't have to deal with the Susans, and Shawns and Kathis of the world.

Having a world-class agent with the most comprehensive offering from the best outfitters is a real benefit for hunters. We'll have someone looking out for us every step of the way...from getting a tag to booking a hunt and booking a flight. Who really wants to piecemeal all the details themselves. Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents. Perhaps they can turn their client lists over to SCI and then maybe get jobs sweeping floors at the convention.

All hail to the new hunting paradigm.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've given this a little more thought and I think it may actually be a great deal for hunters. Kind of like how Amazon and Apple are good for consumers but horrible for writers, musicians, and all their associated support organizations. SCI likes to throw their weight around and this booking operation will give them an even better venue to operate is such a manner.

The best dates with the best outfitters (whether in Africa, Alaska, Mongolia or wherever) are always in short supply. SCI will gobble-up those dates post haste. The outfitters will cooperate because it (along with a hunt donation) will guarantee their position in the convention placement hierarchy. The second-rate outfitters will grovel at the feet of SCI so as to break into the "preferred vendor" group. This means even more free trips for the SCI honchos.

SCI doesn't need to "have a booth" at the convention. The ENTIRE CONVENTION is their BOOTH! All their preferred-vendor outfitters will be directing their erstwhile customers to SCI because SCI already has the best dates locked up and the outfitters have to tow the line to stay on the preferred vendor list. Remember, there's a bunch of groveling outfitters just chomping at the bit to take their place.

It's also a plus that SCI is getting into the travel business as well. It would be nice that the travelling hunter has an "integrated solution" from one provider so they don't have to deal with the Susans, and Shawns and Kathis of the world.

Having a world-class agent with the most comprehensive offering from the best outfitters is a real benefit for hunters. We'll have someone looking out for us every step of the way...from getting a tag to booking a hunt and booking a flight. Who really wants to piecemeal all the details themselves. Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents. Perhaps they can turn their client lists over to SCI and then maybe get jobs sweeping floors at the convention.

All hail to the new hunting paradigm.

So, from soup to nuts, SCI has it covered. From the booking process all the way through taxidermy services, we have got it covered.

Oh, the taxidermy part will be discussed later. Guess whom will be the SCI endorsed taxidermist??? any guesses?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
Here is how this vote was taken, at least based upon what i was told.

A budget document well over 100 pages long was e mailed shortly before the meeting. There was a short blurb on SCI Outdoors over 100 pages into the document. The blurb said nothing to indicate the reality of what was proposed. There was zero discussion .

This is how a 147-0 vote was accomplished.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
Here is how this vote was taken, at least based upon what i was told.

A budget document well over 100 pages long was e mailed shortly before the meeting. There was a short blurb on SCI Outdoors over 100 pages into the document. The blurb said nothing to indicate the reality of what was proposed. There was zero discussion .

This is how a 147-0 vote was accomplished.

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Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
Here is how this vote was taken, at least based upon what i was told.

A budget document well over 100 pages long was e mailed shortly before the meeting. There was a short blurb on SCI Outdoors over 100 pages into the document. The blurb said nothing to indicate the reality of what was proposed. There was zero discussion .

This is how a 147-0 vote was accomplished.

I have heard the same thing from someone at the meeting. They do not recall any specific discussion of SCI Outdoors or the details around SCI Outdoors. The feeling is that the implication in the letter that the group was unanimously supportive of SCI Outdoors is a gross overstatement.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've given this a little more thought and I think it may actually be a great deal for hunters. Kind of like how Amazon and Apple are good for consumers but horrible for writers, musicians, and all their associated support organizations. SCI likes to throw their weight around and this booking operation will give them an even better venue to operate is such a manner.

The best dates with the best outfitters (whether in Africa, Alaska, Mongolia or wherever) are always in short supply. SCI will gobble-up those dates post haste. The outfitters will cooperate because it (along with a hunt donation) will guarantee their position in the convention placement hierarchy. The second-rate outfitters will grovel at the feet of SCI so as to break into the "preferred vendor" group. This means even more free trips for the SCI honchos.

SCI doesn't need to "have a booth" at the convention. The ENTIRE CONVENTION is their BOOTH! All their preferred-vendor outfitters will be directing their erstwhile customers to SCI because SCI already has the best dates locked up and the outfitters have to tow the line to stay on the preferred vendor list. Remember, there's a bunch of groveling outfitters just chomping at the bit to take their place.

It's also a plus that SCI is getting into the travel business as well. It would be nice that the travelling hunter has an "integrated solution" from one provider so they don't have to deal with the Susans, and Shawns and Kathis of the world.

Having a world-class agent with the most comprehensive offering from the best outfitters is a real benefit for hunters. We'll have someone looking out for us every step of the way...from getting a tag to booking a hunt and booking a flight. Who really wants to piecemeal all the details themselves. Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents. Perhaps they can turn their client lists over to SCI and then maybe get jobs sweeping floors at the convention.

All hail to the new hunting paradigm.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
I went to SCI's website and I saw no easy way to "bombard the executive committee" with emails. Anyone with better IT skills wish to post up the email links needed?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
The EC e-mail addresses are: (These are the existing 2014 members, as well as the 2015 members, who will assume responsibility July 1)

Craig Kauffman: kauffmansci@gmail.com
Larry Higgins: lbhrpwt@gmail.com
Bruce Eavenson: scibwe@gmail.com
Paul Babaz: paul.d.babaz@ms.com
Mike Borel: mike.borel@contextnet.com
Eddie Grasser: eddie@aksafariclub.org
Don Harter: harter65@gmail.com
Joe Hosmer: joe.hosmer@gmail.com
Sherry Maddox: explorer111749@aol.com
Alan Maki: oldgunsltdi@aol.com
John McLaurin: 1elkhtr1@outdrs.net
Sandra Sadler: twodotranch@hotmail.com
Laird Hamberlin: lhamberlin@aol.com
Richard Parsons: rmparsons777@gmail.com
Veronica Kosich: veronicakosichesq@verizon.net
Kirt Fredericks: kirt.fredericks@wellsfargoadvisors.com


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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by ForrestB:
I've given this a little more thought and I think it may actually be a great deal for hunters. Kind of like how Amazon and Apple are good for consumers but horrible for writers, musicians, and all their associated support organizations. SCI likes to throw their weight around and this booking operation will give them an even better venue to operate is such a manner.

The best dates with the best outfitters (whether in Africa, Alaska, Mongolia or wherever) are always in short supply. SCI will gobble-up those dates post haste. The outfitters will cooperate because it (along with a hunt donation) will guarantee their position in the convention placement hierarchy. The second-rate outfitters will grovel at the feet of SCI so as to break into the "preferred vendor" group. This means even more free trips for the SCI honchos.

SCI doesn't need to "have a booth" at the convention. The ENTIRE CONVENTION is their BOOTH! All their preferred-vendor outfitters will be directing their erstwhile customers to SCI because SCI already has the best dates locked up and the outfitters have to tow the line to stay on the preferred vendor list. Remember, there's a bunch of groveling outfitters just chomping at the bit to take their place.

It's also a plus that SCI is getting into the travel business as well. It would be nice that the travelling hunter has an "integrated solution" from one provider so they don't have to deal with the Susans, and Shawns and Kathis of the world.

Having a world-class agent with the most comprehensive offering from the best outfitters is a real benefit for hunters. We'll have someone looking out for us every step of the way...from getting a tag to booking a hunt and booking a flight. Who really wants to piecemeal all the details themselves. Best of all we won't have to deal with all the schmucks and clowns posting here who call themselves agents. Perhaps they can turn their client lists over to SCI and then maybe get jobs sweeping floors at the convention.

All hail to the new hunting paradigm.

So, from soup to nuts, SCI has it covered. From the booking process all the way through taxidermy services, we have got it covered.

Oh, the taxidermy part will be discussed later. Guess whom will be the SCI endorsed taxidermist??? any guesses?

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
The EC e-mail addresses are: (These are the existing 2014 members, as well as the 2015 members, who will assume responsibility July 1)

Craig Kauffman: kauffmansci@gmail.com
Larry Higgins: lbhrpwt@gmail.com
Bruce Eavenson: scibwe@gmail.com
Paul Babaz: paul.d.babaz@ms.com
Mike Borel: mike.borel@contextnet.com
Eddie Grasser: eddie@aksafariclub.org
Don Harter: harter65@gmail.com
Joe Hosmer: joe.hosmer@gmail.com
Sherry Maddox: explorer111749@aol.com
Alan Maki: oldgunsltdi@aol.com
John McLaurin: 1elkhtr1@outdrs.net
Sandra Sadler: twodotranch@hotmail.com
Laird Hamberlin: lhamberlin@aol.com
Richard Parsons: rmparsons777@gmail.com
Veronica Kosich: veronicakosichesq@verizon.net
Kirt Fredericks: kirt.fredericks@wellsfargoadvisors.com


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Any idea what their jobs are at SCI?

quote:

Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Gee I have never met an outfitter that hasn't at one time or another over sold the hunt. You want it we got it!

quote:

Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
mboga biga bwana, I will do you one better name me one that has never over sold a hunt in their life time.

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
mboga biga bwana, I will do you one better name me one that has never over sold a hunt in their life time.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

As some of my friends have mentioned. Imagine the good they can do for us.