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All in favor say "Aye!" | |||
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Aye! Is that enough to approve the motion? Brian "If you can't go all out, don't go..." | |||
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Aye, by all means, aye! Well and truly done, Jorge! Mark DRSS "I always take care to fire into the nearest hillside and, lacking that, into darkness." - the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson | |||
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Record my AYE vote please. JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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I vote "NO" but will change my vote if the result isn't unanimous! 465H&H | |||
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Thanks gentlemen for the kind words. Now it begs the question; Will the "object of my affection" understand it? My bet is he'll vote "aye" as well.  jorgeUSN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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jorge,I think you've been up in the clouds for too long.You keep dreaming! Who cares what YOU think,fly brain. | |||
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Uh, Jorge, I think you may have touched a nerve. My thought is "is that enough?" My vote is AYE. .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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ouch, boy you sure gave me "what fer!" jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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jorge,if you keep on taking your flintstone vitamins you will also be able to shoot straight and not be jelous. | |||
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jelous I thought you were an eighth-grader, but you don't spell well enough. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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oops,sorry Mr Spelling Bee. | |||
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shootaway, This is the phenomena that jorge was trying to explain to you:  | |||
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I see,you guys must subscribe to the American Journal of Savage Medecine or the Scientific American comic book series. | |||
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My point exactly.I guess he probably didn't bother with a scope or did not maintain his rifle and shooting skills.I suggest that the entire shooting community review their PH certification process.This issue should be looked as in the same way as a plane crash. | |||
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Getting pretty close to slander without any evidence on a PH whom seemingly had a very good reputation. *** As for the motion, AYE for me too, but only for the month. I expect plenty more nominated posts from the same source. PS Shootaway, if you are just a kid, please tell us, as no doubt you would then get more leeway from members here. | |||
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One more in AYE column. | |||
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Shootaway, How would a scope have helped in a close range elephant charge situation? Have you ever tried to make a frontal brain shot on a charging elephant? I think that you may be confused on the whole accident investigation thing. When the term jumbo is used in aviation it refers to a jet that seats more than 250 passengers. That kind of jumbo has CVR's (cockpit voice recorders) FDR's (flight data recorders) ATC recordings radar traces, crushable structures, maintenance history, AD's, SB's ETC. The pilots that fly them do so under strict SOP's and use CRM and are highly trained and must complete a PT a PC and AME every 6 months. An African jumbo doesn't have any of that stuff making an aviation style accident investigation kind of tough. Of course maybe the Canadian Board of Hunter Accident Investigation (CBHAI) will get their act together in light of this tragedy a start requiring all jumbos not just the jets to be GPWS, TCAS, RVSM, CVR, FDR & MNPS equipped by the end of the year. I think you are just the guy to push it through parliament. Good luck and godspeed. | |||
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Aye Having gone to the effort of explaining, and then having everything either ignored or twisted he gets a nomination along with our dear Bob for the ZOT of the month award as well (ZOT = Zimbabwe Oxygen Thief) | |||
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No, we don't but you obviously haven't figured out the "spell check" option, let alone conceptualize cogent thought. Not even osmosis can help you absorb knowledge. How many times has the fact that a scope is not a wise idea when shooting elephant up close been posted here by those in the know and with significant elephant hunting experience? Please heed my advice of a few days ago and auto-castrate. The world has enough microcephalics. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Aye This Jorge is in an unique category of his own.  J B de Runz Be careful when blindly following the masses ... generally the "m" is silent | |||
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Aye, and I'm with jorge bye Stefano Waidmannsheil | |||
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all in favour? approved. | |||
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Aye indeed Regards, Chris Troskie Tel. +27 82 859-0771 email. chris@ct-safaris.com Sabrisa Ranch Ellisras RSA www.ct-safaris.com https://youtu.be/4usXceRdkH4 | |||
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These incidents are somewhat predictable given the dire and unpredictable response from the authorities for shooting an animal. No doubt many on this board have heard about phs losing their licenses after being second guessed by someone in authority. | |||
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Mike,better have balls and confront the situation than be stomped on.Forget about this political correctness when you are being charged by a mean-joe-green.If you did your shooting homework you would plant both legs flat on the ground open and at one o'clock with respect to the charging ele.The left upper arm should should fall flat on your chest so that it provides a rest for the rifles forearm.The safety should alway be off and never be used in ones lifetime.The scope should automatically align with the target as you have conditioned this to happen.Croosshairs will be between the eyes and trigger pressure is nearly complete then boom,surprise the ele drops and its over. | |||
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The "ayes" have it. | |||
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Shootaway You have been given more slack than just about anyone here. It is because people know you're just a kid, and they would rather encourage you than discourage you from participating. But you have crossed the line once too often. It is one thing to post your fantasies of your big game experience here. Yes I am sure you shot a tiger - one from your stuffed animal collection with your Red Ryder BB gun. Set 'em up and knock 'em down. But it is an entirely different matter to attack those who have experienced big game hunting live and in person with such ridiculous claims. It is obvious to anyone that you are well out of your depth of knowledge, even in the shallow end of the experience pool. I do not know of one PH in Africa who uses a scope for close encounters with dangerous game. A scope is great but not at close range. Your sight picture will be one mass of grey, black or fawn color. And it will take you LONGER to acquire your target area than with iron sights. With statements like this:
You have crossed the line of safe hunting. And safe shooting. That kind of thinking demonstrates an unconscionable degree of recklessness. If you want to learn, read and listen. Ask questions. All your posts do is to certify to the world that you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about. The moronic attacks are more than a little old. SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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Jim Manion,if you want to stay alive then listen to what I have to say. Why in the world would anyone plan on a close encounter to the point of not having a scope on his rifle. A close encounter is not something to look forward to or is it a safe style of hunting. I would never put myself within 50yds of any wild dangerous game. I will do all my shooting beyond this zone and therefore find a scope a life saving tool in that it will allow for a well placed shot the first time.If he charges from 75 yds then I will stand firm and shoot with my scope while he gains distance.If for some reason you have your safety on while you are being charged you will be a goner.I think there should be a law passed in africa to ban the use of a safety while African hunting.This is not to say that I am not a safety concerned hunter.I also feel that anyone who has a habit of pointing a rifle at another,loaded or not, should not be allowed to own a rifle or should retake his firearms course at 1000 times the cost. | |||
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Will,next time I break open my piggy bank I think I might buy your book.It's been a long time since I read a book and there has just got to be something interesting in yours.I think I'll do a search through the AR pages and see if I can come up with a review.Right now I'am waiting for a AR cap I ordered. | |||
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1st. Dangerous game isn't dangerous at 50 yds. The thrill of the approach is what makes DG worth hunting. If you prefer to pot shoot your DG at distance, and some do, just remember that you are depriving yourself of most of the hunt. This is especially so with elephants. 2nd. A good portion of the time you won't even see the animal through the brush at 50yds. 3rd. Your safety should remain on until you shoulder your rifle and it should be a natural and unthinking act to disengage the safety while you mount your rifle. If it isn't, you haven't done enough shooting. The thing about a safety is that you will never know how many times it has saved you or a companion. Ideally, none, but you can never be sure that is the case. 4th. What Jim Manion says regarding a scope at close range is true. Two here have tried it and found it a mistake. Others may prefer or even need a scope due to failing eyesight. But a scope at close range, especially on elephants, where your peripheral vision may save your butt, is a third best choice ofter an apperature or express sight. IIRC, Zimbabwe records reveal that it is generally not the elephant being hunted that kills, but another unseen elephant. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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Mon Père m'a enseigné : "restez plutôt silencieux et être pensé comme ... idiot qu'ouvert votre bouche ... et enlever tout le doute... Regards, Chris Troskie Tel. +27 82 859-0771 email. chris@ct-safaris.com Sabrisa Ranch Ellisras RSA www.ct-safaris.com https://youtu.be/4usXceRdkH4 | |||
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JPK,I will not hunt the homebred DG game many people choose to hunt.You know,the type you can get really close to without fearing.Try getting to within 15yds of that lion that greeted those tourists on that protected safari vehicule and then come tell me about depriving oneself.That guy charged the truck from a couple of hundred yards out and left his marks engraved all over the steal of the trucks body. | |||
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Chris,votre pere avez raison! | |||
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You'd think shootaway would understand French. English is not his primary language or he is even younger than we think. What is he doing up so late, or early? What would mommy think if she caught him playing on the 'puter at such an hour in Montreal?. Or is this a troll? Scott is that you? This has been unreal for way too long. You'd think in over 4 years, shootaway could learn something.  | |||
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RIP Are we "permitted" to question trolls on AR again, or is it still a "banning offence" to question whether someone is a troll? | |||
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Shootaway, You are again proving Chris Troskie's point. I have been within 30 yards of lion, on foot. In the bush, you must have the grace of a D9. If you are so fightened that you loose your (limited) ability to reason, better not hunt dangerous game. Et vous avez un grand raison de ne parlez pas. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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RIP and NitroX,who cares what YOU think! NitroX,have you ever shot that double in your picture or is it just for looks? | |||
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