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During the next year or so I will be making several trips to Angola. Be very easy for me to extend my stay for a week or ten days on one of these trips if there was some kind of hunting opportunity there. I know it used to be a great hunting destination but I haven't heard anything recently. Anyone know of an opportunity or a contact? Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do. | ||
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If and when it opens it will be in the southeast part of the country around the Luiana Partial Reserve in the old Mucusso/Mavinga Coutada's. A couple of years ago the Whittall's from Zimbabwe were making inroads but nothing came of it. I would love to see it happen. | |||
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Botswana replacement. That would be great. Just like any other business, you don't wanna do business someone else will. Maybe someone in Angola gov will wake up. " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Always wanted to hunt Angola. If it doesn't open, I may have to satisfy myself with a fishing trip. | |||
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they have probably the largest tarpon in the world.. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… | |||
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Angola is seen as one of the most corrupt countries in Africa. I would think it extremely hard to run an outfit there . Not sure how much game is left after the war ? During the 70's to mid 80's numbers plummeted as hundreds of thousands of head of game was butchered. | |||
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Jan: Understood and you are correct, but that was 30+ years ago. I also understand that without hunting, poaching will continue, but I still would like to know what is there. And whatever is or is not there, I'd still like to go. As I said, it might be just an expensive fishing trip. | |||
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I heard there are discussion that hunting MIGHT re-open in Angola in 2014. Nothing certain yet. | |||
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Guys, I have lived here, in Luanda, pretty much my whole life. When I hunt I go to Zim/Namibia,etc. There is undoubtedly game left in the SE of Angola, but Angola is still one of the most mined countries in the world, with most of the fighting done in the south. Now fishing is another story and it is what has kept me here. we have good offshore fishing and inshore fishing, but this too is taking a hammering from all comers. Just my 0.02c | |||
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Nothing more exciting than following spore & wondering IF you are going to get blown up! LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I worked with Whittall few years back on the project Agrarian Research measured the areas, mapped the mine battle grounds, bifurcated 7 hunting concessions, talked to major south African safari company s like Gary Kelly, Johan and others the politics were not there at that time the only funder was Roger and some input from Gram Taylor he first found the deal the main development group fell apart when it came time for heavy lifting hope it comes back while working on it for several months I learned that the kwando river system once opened up would be the next grand safari in all of Africa if some one will post the pic I will email the map we prepared on the project showing general location and project features send a pm w email Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Thanks stradling..could someone help post the pic? | |||
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bwana cecil has no sense of humour. Most were picked up. Noone has set mines in decades. Of the mines that were not picked up, those that were set and not triggered or picked up are really old. I still want to go. To quote known communist, Jean-Paul Sartre, "To know what life is worth, you have to risk it once in a while." Don't agree with much Sartre said, but in that quote he nailed it. | |||
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Angola still has an estimated 10-20 million mines in the ground and they don't have a "best before date" on them. There are an estimated 70,000 amputees and the list continues to grow. That my friend is a mine for every member of the population and some spares for visitors. Maybe you should come and join the de miners if you want to know what life is worth. I on the other hand am scared sh1tless at the idea of losing any of my limbs. | |||
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I think being blown up by a past terrorist mine is the last thing I wish to be part of. I have done some pretty stupid things in my younger days - and am still living to tell the tales. Those were the carefree days when one had no family to think of and look after. Going hunting in an area known to have mines will be the last place I wish to go. | |||
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That's staggering!  Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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roots of peace send them a generous Xmas present here is the foot print of the project http://agrarian.org/index.php?...icle&id=45&Itemid=38 Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Thanks for all the information. Looks like I'll need to make other plans. Might go fishing though. Never worry about theory as long as the machinery does what it's supposed to do. | |||
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Hop on a plane down south an do a 7-10 day plains game in SA.its a 2 -3 hr flight  Dave Davenport Outfitters license HC22/2012EC Pro Hunters license PH74/2012EC www.leopardsvalley.co.za dave@leopardsvalley.co.za +27 42 24 61388 HUNT AFRICA WHILE YOU STILL CAN Follow us on FACEBOOK https://www.facebook.com/#!/leopardsvalley.safaris | |||
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so 10-20 million mines don't concern you. of course, they are old  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… | |||
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I'd love to go too. For the sake of furthering the discussion, what would be the hypothetical scenario for developing a hunting area including clearing mines? UN funded mine sweeping teams or companies? Feral goats? Military surplus metal detectors? I'd think the mines and other bombs would be strategically located so discovering/ retrieving them should be plannable? Heck, a client hunter is usually third or fourth in line behind the trackers and ph so I'll go. If they make it I will too. | |||
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That would depened upon how the mines were laid. Were they surveyed in -I would think not. Were they placed in a pattern or hapazardly put where ever. Were all placed so as to direct soliders into fire zones/protect approach routes or just laid so as to make areas unuseable to general population. So the list goes on. If you follow some one make sure you step in their footprints and with old munitions it is still no gaurantee. Think I'll stay out of Angola. | |||
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So are the cluster munitions the US dropped in Cambodia and Laos forty five years ago and they're still killing and maiming.  | |||
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Do we run goats to figure it out? I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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The biggest problem of mine removal is cost. Because of this all efforts are being focused around towns, villages, roads, etc = game already poached out! It takes a demining team +/- 1 day to clear an area equivalent to 1/2 a football field! While there are a lot of marked mine fields thousands (or?) were dropped by retreating troops during firefights, to slow down pursuit, so they are basically anywhere there was fighting. The reality is mines will never be cleared out in the wild blue yonder, it doesn't make economic sense. So while there must still be plenty of game in the SE of Angola, it is not on my "to do list" FWIW. | |||
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Well Danita and Norad have been clearing mines in Angola for 10 years now plenty years to go before they have cleared everywhere....  | |||
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life is risk more so in a mine field yes lots of hunt able ground in south east Angola its about relationships and money Scott king is spot on what worked for snakes also works for this Scott you can not believe the place I shot an el just off the border year after i did the work in Angola about 2 miles in to Namibia 300 head herds moving back and forth there on the border last I was there pm me your email Scott i will shoot you a clip or two of the video our team took along the river the year we did the work in Angola I don't know if you remember me I was the guy that developed the road alignment for your grant lake hydro last year [did the Arial mapping and conceptual project design work with Mark Storm] we presented that to your co op board in April you might recall its interesting when you go with the sans bushman trackers the old guys will not walk out in to the open with out a quick look around a hang over reflex from the civil war tracking they did back in the day they are not looking for mine fields though they all know where the fields are they are reacting to the get seen get shot at reflex amazing to catch one do that every now and then that must have been one hell of a fight Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Pm sent momentarily. Theres no "Rubber meets the road," for me here because at the moment I've got less disposable income than,....well,.....everybody. Despite that truth, I just can't help it, anytime I read or see something like this thread, I feel like I just gotta see it. Rifle or no, Dog, Wife or common sense along or not, I really wanna go! Over Thanksgiving I flew south and trailered a boat down Baja for a week of fishing. We had a couple destinations in mind and a pocket sort of full of cash and the dog. Here in Dillingham I had to go thru the whole, "Isn't Baja part of California?" "What about the Drug Cartels?" "You can't bring a dog to Mexico!" and on. We went, we fished, the dog swam in the Pacific and The Sea of Cortez and we had a great time. I got to see things I never had and talk to people I never had. Yeah, you got me, I speak no Spanish and sometimes they spoke no English so I jabbered, they jabbered, we all got along. San bushmen trackers is on the list based in part on the above post. I'm not comfortable sitting here in my kitchen waiting for that ideal moment to try to do something. Now about my disposable income,........ | |||
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I have not yet shot a moose at 61 but you have what makes you think any of us have enough cash just make dam sure you waste what you have got on the -- just the right thing Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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