Safari Club International Files Motion For Preliminary Injunction Against Elephant Importation Bans

For Immediate Release: May 1, 2014

Washington, DC - Yesterday, April 30, 2014, Safari Club International’s (SCI) litigation team took the second step in its challenge to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s (FWS) bans on the importation of sport-hunted elephants from Zimbabwe and Tanzania. SCI filed a motion for a preliminary injunction, asking the court to immediately lift the importation bans. SCI’s motion explained that emergency relief is necessary to prevent harm to those who have elephant hunts planned for 2014 and to the elephants whose conservation has been placed at risk by the FWS’s actions.

In the preliminary injunction documents, SCI argued that (1) elephant conservation, including anti-poaching efforts, will suffer under the bans; (2) hunters and safari operators, are irreparably harmed by the loss to the value of hunts and the loss of business; and (3) decreased numbers of U.S. hunters means that the hunting operations will have less money to invest in community projects and habitat improvement. Together with the motion, SCI submitted a record number of over 40 declarations from hunters, outfitters, and booking agents to show the court the damage the suspension of importation has already caused and will continue to cause. The statements from these members demonstrate the stories of the more than 130 members that wrote to SCI’s attorneys to explain just how important this issue is to the entire organization.

SCI requested that the Court schedule a hearing on its motion as soon as possible. The federal government has already informed SCI’s attorneys that they will oppose the preliminary injunction request. The government now has seven days to respond to SCI’s motion.

SCI filed its Complaint in this lawsuit on April 21st. We have and will continue to make every effort to obtain an expeditious reversal of this blow to hunting and to African elephant conservation.

I will keep my fingers crossed, hoping that something comes out of this.

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Mark

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
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I suspect there are individual members on here who could make a very big difference to the funding of this case.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
A donation can help fund this effort.
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Mark

I suspect there are individual members on here who could make a very big difference to the funding of this case.

Having a fairly successful fund raiser going for the American Cancer Society I can tell you that an army of small to moderate donations will certainly dwarf the few from the wealthy that you hope will come.

Guys,

Whether it's $10 or $10,000 it all will help and may be the most effective way for individuals to put a little pressure on US,F&W. At least SCI is doing something. If any of us cares about the elephants which in the long run will be the losers in this ivory ban we should all do what we can.

Mark

Mark, don't you know SCI on AR = some negativity.

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Mark, don't you know SCI on AR = some negativity.

I wonder where all the millions they collect every year goes??

Saeed, do you think the action outlined above comes free?

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Saeed, do you think the action outlined above comes free?

Not at all Ed.

But, SCI has been ramming it down our throats for so long what good they do for us.

According to their own reports, they collect several million dollars a year just from the show.

Where does that money go?

Saeed that is a broken record! As is said to Mark's post SCI on AR = negativity. What have they rammed down your throat?

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Mark, don't you know SCI on AR = some negativity.

I wonder where all the millions they collect every year goes??

Just more noise from someone that would not even pin a thread on the forum to enlist the support of sport hunters to write their Congressmen. The best we got was he "will keep [his] fingers crossed". Maybe if all hunters would cross their fingers we could make a difference.

Mike,

I do not have much faith in SCI.

If you seem to worship them so much, setup your own website and glorify them.

Worship is perhaps a bit strong. I do respect groups and individuals that are at least in the game attempting to make a difference as opposed to others kibitzing from the bleachers.

Do you really feel that a pinned thread devoted to your hunt last year is more important than a thread aimed at mustering support for an attack on sport hunting?

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Originally posted by MJines:
Worship is perhaps a bit strong. I do respect groups and individuals that are at least in the game attempting to make a difference as opposed to others kibitzing from the bleachers.

Do you really feel that a pinned thread devoted to your hunt last year is more important than a thread aimed at mustering support for an attack on sport hunting?

I will not, under any circumstances, pin a thread in support of SCI.

They have lost my respect a long time ago due to their silly shenanigans.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Worship is perhaps a bit strong. I do respect groups and individuals that are at least in the game attempting to make a difference as opposed to others kibitzing from the bleachers.

Do you really feel that a pinned thread devoted to your hunt last year is more important than a thread aimed at mustering support for an attack on sport hunting?

I will not, under any circumstances, pin a thread in support of SCI.

They have lost my respect a long time ago due to their silly shenanigans.

Okay, well keep your fingers crossed at least, I am sure that will make a difference.

[Sounds like all the Republicans that stayed at home because they did not like Romney and thereby helped to elect Obama for a glorious second term. What is the old saying, a penny wise and a pound foolish.]

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Mark, don't you know SCI on AR = some negativity.

I wonder where all the millions they collect every year goes??

Lawsuits ... and....

Lobbying effort
Conservation projects (including hosting international conferences and engagement)
Youth projects
Humanitarian Aid

Just a few off the top of my head.

Guys,

I'm really disappointed to see this turn into yet another argument about SCI. I think the long reaching effects of this ivory import ban by US,F&W on the whole safari industry far outweigh any personal animosity folks might have concerning SCI.

Mark

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Guys,

I'm really disappointed to see this turn into yet another argument about SCI. I think the long reaching effects of this ivory import ban by US,F&W on the whole safari industry far outweigh any personal animosity folks might have concerning SCI.

Mark

+1

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Originally posted by Saeed:

I will not, under any circumstances, pin a thread in support of SCI.

No but you pinned a thread attacking SCI. The Larry Rudolph thread.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

I will not, under any circumstances, pin a thread in support of SCI.

No but you pinned a thread attacking SCI. The Larry Rudolph thread.

Matt,

I did that to prove my point.

Larry Rudulph was a perfect example of what is wrong with SCI.

All the top want is to glorify each other, and he fell short of his own expectations, so he turned against them.

That is the culture that has been ruling SCI for years, and it needs to make a very drastic change before hunters start to believe them.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Guys,

I'm really disappointed to see this turn into yet another argument about SCI. I think the long reaching effects of this ivory import ban by US,F&W on the whole safari industry far outweigh any personal animosity folks might have concerning SCI.

Mark

+1

BTT - for anyone that would care to follow the link and donate.

LINK

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

I will not, under any circumstances, pin a thread in support of SCI.

No but you pinned a thread attacking SCI. The Larry Rudolph thread.

Matt,

I did that to prove my point.

Larry Rudulph was a perfect example of what is wrong with SCI.

All the top want is to glorify each other, and he fell short of his own expectations, so he turned against them.

That is the culture that has been ruling SCI for years, and it needs to make a very drastic change before hunters start to believe them.

Rudolph screwed-up so they booted him out. What happened after that is irrelevant - he was no longer a part of SCI.

Before hunters start to believe them?? What makes you think hunters dont believe them? A handful of 'disgruntelds' posting on a web forum??

I can certainly understand that some, including me, have serious problems with some of SCI's actions or lack thereof. However , I cannot understand why SCI's biggest detractors have any issue with their efforts on the elephants.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I can certainly understand that some, including me, have serious problems with some of SCI's actions or lack thereof.

I agree.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I can certainly understand that some, including me, have serious problems with some of SCI's actions or lack thereof. However , I cannot understand why SCI's biggest detractors have any issue with their efforts on the elephants.

And let me assure you that in the event, despite of SCI's efforts, the ban is not reversed, the choir will be singing loudly, "I told you so", "I knew all along", "They are completely inept", and on and on. I truly believe there are those that purport to be on our side that are hoping for failure so that it will vindicate their view of the world. Highlights just how divided and unaligned we really are as a group.

"...In the end with a lot of chest beating and flag waving, very little results will be forthcoming.Then there will be many attempts at fund raising with the mantra "we need to throw more money at the problem. Another committee you don't know the membership there of etc, etc,..."


Mike,

The above is a perfect example of what SCI has been doing for years.

Saeed:

What would you think is a better approach?

This is a serious question.

"One thing is sure. We have to do something. We have to do the best we know how at the moment . . . ; If it doesn't turn out right, we can modify it as we go along."

— Franklin D.Roosevelt

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Saeed:

What would you think is a better approach?

This is a serious question.

My fear is that this is not going to get reversed - just look at all our friends who have written to their congressmen and what answers they got.

SCI, with their claimed lobbying connections in DC, should have seen this coming and tried to prevent it before it happened.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Saeed:

What would you think is a better approach?

This is a serious question.

My fear is that this is not going to get reversed - just look at all our friends who have written to their congressmen and what answers they got.

SCI, with their claimed lobbying connections in DC, should have seen this coming and tried to prevent it before it happened.

I agree with you 100%. However, I am still looking for a better approach that might be successful given that some here think this is a useless by SCI.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
SCI, with their claimed lobbying connections in DC, should have seen this coming and tried to prevent it before it happened.

LMAO.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. You really are way too predictable. Of course, you did not answer Larry's question either. You have no better idea and you are prepared to devote your time and energy to crapping on the one approach that is moving forward rather than coming up with a better idea.

Isn't it fun to sit on the side lines and bitch or complain about anything SCI does - would have could have should have about anything SCI does. It is just boring. Saeed get off your ass and do something!

I have to agree with a lot of what is said.

SCI got blind sided. Any reasonable person would question their connections and power. They certainly have issues in other areas.

What is a better course of action than what SCI is attempting to do? I am all for an alternative. Personally, I can't think of a better plan of action. I would certainly support another if there was one.

I am very disappointed in the virtual dead silence of DSC on this matter.

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
Saeed get off your ass and do something!

Saeed
Is there an import ban on elephant trophies to the Emirates?

Good Hunting
CF

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
SCI, with their claimed lobbying connections in DC, should have seen this coming and tried to prevent it before it happened.

LMAO.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. You really are way too predictable. Of course, you did not answer Larry's question either. You have no better idea and you are prepared to devote your time and energy to crapping on the one approach that is moving forward rather than coming up with a better idea.

Mike,

I am not the one taking millions from the hunting community every year, and showing very little for it.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
SCI got blind sided. Any reasonable person would question their connections and power. They certainly have issues in other areas.

. . . and so did DSC, HSC and every other hunting organization.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
SCI, with their claimed lobbying connections in DC, should have seen this coming and tried to prevent it before it happened.

LMAO.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. You really are way too predictable. Of course, you did not answer Larry's question either. You have no better idea and you are prepared to devote your time and energy to crapping on the one approach that is moving forward rather than coming up with a better idea.

Mike,

I am not the one taking millions from the hunting community every year, and showing very little for it.

I take it that you have no intention of answering Larry's question presumably because you have no good ideas.