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I have spoken with a couple of travel agents that aren’t booking flights to Mozambique until this gets cleared up.
 
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South Africa doing South African things.

Is it any wonder so many people avoid that cesspool if at all possible?

I was about ready to book a hunt in Moz, now I'll wait. Using a camp rifle isn't an option for me.
 
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It’s a matter of adjusting
I use camp guns
I look at it as hunting is all about hunting and any decent hunter will hit center with any decent gun
People who just have to have their own guns rob themselves of experience


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Just avoid that shithole called Johannesburg!


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Since we are at it...do any of you have experience with guns in transit through Luanda Angola..?

Ethiopian will fly Addis - Luanda - Maun from about 10th june this year...it very tempting to avoid the Joburg shithole en route to Bots..



 
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People who just have to have their own guns rob themselves of experience


I find quite the opposite.

Using my own guns with my own ammo that I loaded is a major part of the hunting experience. Would I use a camp gun if my rifles got delayed ... sure, but that's the exception.
 
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It’s a matter of adjusting
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I look at it as hunting is all about hunting and any decent hunter will hit center with any decent gun
People who just have to have their own guns rob themselves of experience


Sadly you will never understand us.

Having your own rifles, your own ammo, made by yourself for hunting.

Never leave home without them.

There are many countries one can travel too with his own guns without too much hassle.

Go there.

Avoid the shitty places, Johannesburg is the last place I would fly through.

Hunting or not.

Last time I flew there on a photo safari, Emirates took my camera bag separately, and it was handed to me at customs by an Emirates employee!

All to avoid theft!


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Interested in hearing about options. And only if my guns lost would I borrow one….


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Has anyone looked at flying into Tanzania or Zimbabwe and drive to Mozambique??


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I don't understand all the angst about travelling through joburg with guns????? I've been doing it regularly for almost 20 years, the last five years, two or three times a year. Never a hiccup. Always,use a permit service for pre approved permit.

Easy peasy.

The only problems I've ever had with luggage was caused on the US side in all my trips.
 
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Saeed, Please dont refer to Joburg as a 'shithole', some members live there and others - like myself - enjoy the city and have great friends there.

And unless I am mistaken they were digging diamonds out of the ground there long before the Arabs were pumping oil out of the sands to build the likes of Dubai and other 'modern' cities!

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I also have had no problems with Johannesburg and my personal items. Of course having Bruce from Gracy riding shotgun on it probably makes a huge difference.

I get that the city has some substantial crime issues and there are all kinds of folks with a hand out for a tip that gets tiring... but thats less of an issue than in some other places where the government guys have their hands out as well.

I will say if I was going to buy a house in South Africa, it most certainly would not be in jo-berg... but then I haven't moved into the metropolis of Minneapolis either.

I did go through Johannesburg to Mozambique with guns and the biggest gripe was airlink demanding a bunch of money to carry the guns.
 
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Are there any transit hotels in the Jo'berg airport that allow you to stay within the airport on the international side? (Not go through customs). I know there was a few years back, but it appears to be closed. I am transiting Jo'berg on my way to Harare with a 10 hour layover and would prefer not to go through RSA customs if possible.
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Just saw this --- my question on the travel forum is do I need to have the SAPS 520 if only transitioning thru?


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Just saw this --- my question on the travel forum is do I need to have the SAPS 520 if only transitioning thru?


According to this, you do.

South Africa always throws a monkey wrench in the works.

I used to ship my rifles ahead to Zimbabwe, through South Africa.

No problems for several years.

Then suddenly they demanded we apply for an import and export permits!

Stupidy there has no end!


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[QUOTE]I am transiting Jo'berg on my way to Harare with a 10 hour layover and would prefer not to go through RSA customs if possible. [QUOTE]

Leaving your bags in OR Tambo for 10 hours is just asking for the bags to be ransacked. If you are flying Airlink to Harare, and have a firearm, they will likely make you recheck your bags so they can charge you a “firearms handling fee”.


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Planning on a trip there next year and I'll be bringing my rifle. I'm also a lefty now. Don't see too many of LH guns in camp.
 
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Here is my advise.

There is a direct flight from Lisbon Portugal to Maputo. Sadly nothing direct to Beira or Lichinga, but at least you should be able to travel without too much hassle.

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How does the above work if the police not issuing permits??


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How does the above work if the police not issuing permits??


Saw a post like the one above from Airlink stating that police ARE issuing permits.


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South Africa Blocks Firearms to Mozambique, Issues Import Permits Only at OR Tambo Airport
February 16, 2024

South Africa has implemented a moratorium on firearms going to Mozambique, Eswatini (formerly Swaziland) and Lesotho. Additionally, import permits for firearms will be issued only at OR Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg. Permits will no longer be issued upon arrival at Cape Town International Airport nor any other airports in South Africa. This is according to the South African Central Firearms Registrar, which is responsible for issuing firearm licenses and permits in South Africa.

The moratorium affects hunting clients and South African citizens and will be applied at all airports and border crossings. There is no indication how long the moratorium will be in place. SCI members planning to fly to or transit through South Africa with firearms should contact their safari operators and travel agents regarding travel or hunting options.

Additionally, no airport other than O.R. Tambo International Airport will be staffed to issue firearm import permits upon arrival. Hunters flying into Cape Town or any other international airport in South Africa will need to acquire a pre-issued import permit.

For more information or assistance, SCI members can contact Barbara Crown at SCI’s Hunter Information Service. Email bcrown@SCIFirstForHunters.org.


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South Africa Blocks Firearms to Mozambique, Issues Import Permits Only at OR Tambo Airport
February 16, 2024

South Africa has implemented a moratorium on firearms going to Mozambique, Eswatini (formerly Swaziland) and Lesotho. Additionally, import permits for firearms will be issued only at OR Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg. Permits will no longer be issued upon arrival at Cape Town International Airport nor any other airports in South Africa. This is according to the South African Central Firearms Registrar, which is responsible for issuing firearm licenses and permits in South Africa.

The moratorium affects hunting clients and South African citizens and will be applied at all airports and border crossings. There is no indication how long the moratorium will be in place. SCI members planning to fly to or transit through South Africa with firearms should contact their safari operators and travel agents regarding travel or hunting options.

Additionally, no airport other than O.R. Tambo International Airport will be staffed to issue firearm import permits upon arrival. Hunters flying into Cape Town or any other international airport in South Africa will need to acquire a pre-issued import permit.

For more information or assistance, SCI members can contact Barbara Crown at SCI’s Hunter Information Service. Email bcrown@SCIFirstForHunters.org.




This does not make sense.

I thought ALL firearms permits are PRE-ISSUED???


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No. You can get one on arrival but the wait is very long.


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Additionally, no airport other than O.R. Tambo International Airport will be staffed to issue firearm import permits upon arrival. Hunters flying into Cape Town or any other international airport in South Africa will need to acquire a pre-issued import permit.

For more information or assistance, SCI members can contact Barbara Crown at SCI’s Hunter Information Service. Email bcrown@SCIFirstForHunters.org.


Thanks, Kathi. Have sent Barbara a note seeking assistance/information on getting a pre-issued permit as I will be arriving via United at Cape Town International Airport in mid-July. Will stay with friends there and then on to Namibia to hunt, returning to the Cape in mid-August to pick up United back to the States. Maybe this moratorium will have ended by then, but best to sort things out to the extent possible...

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It appears that the moratorium has been lifted and things are back to normal based on a Press Release from CPHC-SA on February 19.
 
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