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For my next year trip to Namibia, Í´ll planing to take my .375 for the big antelopes. What bullet should be the best for oryx and up to eland? I´m thinking for the 270grs Woodleigh PP. | ||
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The 270 grain TSX is also a good bullet, or the 260 grain Accubond. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Mais le TSX est très longue! | |||
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I've shot the Swift A- Frame for years, even deer hunted with it this past year. There are a lot of good bullets, just put them were they are supposed to go. | |||
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Classic 300grn WOODLEIGH round nose soft | |||
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Or the TBBC 250gr or the NP 260gr (what I use for deers and wildboars). | |||
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i dunno but i've never had reason to switch from the 300 gr nosler partition | |||
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For me the 270 gr TSX and perhaps now the 270 gr LRX would be my choice. Shoots as flat as the '06 and will give all the penetration necessary for anything. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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The bullet your rifle shoots most accurately. Mine loves the 300 grain TSX which has superb penetration. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Ok so the 270gr TSX is too long, then go with the 270gr A-Frame or the TBBC 250gr. The big Woodleigh RN don't have a flat enough trajectory for Namibia | |||
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Another option is the new Hornady 250 gr. GMX, tipped solid copper bullet at 2,900 fps. I have never used it, but I am taking it to Zambia this year for Sable and Sitatunga. Ought to shoot fairly flat. | |||
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I'm also going to Namibia next year with my 375 H&H and I'll be shooting the Barnes 250 grain TTSX. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Have you looked at the Cutting Edge Bullet line? 230 grain ESP Raptor and 235 grain ER Raptor. IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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I recommend Swift A-Frames. 300 grains. It's an outstanding bullet and you will need to look hard to find people complaining about them. The complaints about the various X bullets from Barnes or woodleighs for that matter are legendary although I have had no issues using them. Also if you want to try factory ammo in your 375 H&H. Consider trying Remmington Safari Grade 375 H&H loaded with 300 grain A-Frames. I am a hand loader but these cartridges shoot so well in my 3 rifles that I don't handload softpoints for them anymore. Good hunting | |||
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While the Cutting Edge bullets have a good reputation, do not use the 235 grain ER Raptor! I had two out of three bullets fail in 2016. I was pushing them at 3,000 fps and two of them exploded on contact, one on a bushbuck's shoulder and one on a jackal. The ER Raptor has a very sleek profile which makes the walls of the hollow point very thin and it shatters on impact. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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G’day, I took the 270 grain Woodleigh PPSNs to Botswana for plainsgame. It was fantastic, but I didn’t and wouldn’t use them for eland or giraffe. Based on my mixed results hunting water buffalo with this bullet on two occasions, it really is only good for blue wildebeest on down. | |||
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Fjold, Thanks for the heads up. Thin walls at the hollow point is not so good. Good to know. IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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I have had good luck with 300 grain bullets from Barnes, Trophy Bonded (actually federal factory ammo) and Swift A frames. I would think that if you are shooting at the front end of an eland or oryx, anything 250 grains or better will work. If you want to shoot at the south end of a north bound eland, you are asking for trouble, but the 300 grain bullets "should" have enough penetration- but I don't know a reputable PH who would let you take that shot on an unwounded eland. If you are taking a .375, you should not be worried about 300+ yard shots- I would use the tried and true 300 grain loads, but wouldn't feel handicapped with 270's. | |||
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I understand that shots in Namibia can be quite long, so may I ask why you are taking a 375H&H for plains game? I have shot all the large African plains game with various 270 caliber rifles, and have never felt I needed anything bigger. Ultimately it is your choice of course, I am just curious. | |||
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Frank, When you say exploded on contact...please tell us more. Did just shed its petals too shallow and the shank continue through the animal as a solid? Or did the whole bullet fragment with no penetration leaving only a superficial wound? I was considering this bullet for an upcoming leopard hunt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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For Large antelope why not the Nosler 260g Accubond or Partition? The 270g Woodleigh you mentioned would be a front runner as well. Shots in Namibia can be on the longer side and a little extra range could be helpful. I see no need for a 300 unless DG is also on the menu. | |||
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Lane, I used the 400g Partition for my leopard and although not the latest "sexy" bullet on the market the results speak for themselves. The cat fell like a stone and made one leap into the river bed and was done. | |||
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I hit the bushbuck at 230 yards, 90 degree angle, right on the point of the shoulder. It completely destroyed the shoulder but never penetrated the chest cavity. We found four of the petals in the shoulder meat under the skin but no sign of the core at all. The only reason we got the buck was that some of the shoulder fragments holed the lung so he was having breathing problems. It took four 180 grain black talons from a 10mm Glock and one more 235 grain Raptor from my 375 to put him down. Here are the petals, that were found under the skin, On the Jackal, I hit him in the stomach area at 200 yards and the entrance wound was 2+" in diameter, the exit opened up the entire back side of the guts with a 8+" hole. No bones were touched. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Frank, Thank you sir. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Last year I used a 8,5x63 (something like a 338/06 Improoved)with a light, lead-less 140grs SAX-KJG -bullet with little over 3400fps with great success on Kudu, Oryx and Sprinbuck. Now I plan to use the same bullet - weight in .375 = 154grs- with a speed of 3700fps! I tested this bullet on red deer and wildboars. | |||
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GSC 265grn hv and matching 270grn solid. I’m really liking how thes bullets shoot. | |||
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I like shooting my 375 H&H and it is deadly accurate. I've made three plains game hunts in RSA and Namibia and have used my 375 on each one. I have no issues shooting it to 300 yards off the sticks because it will do the job every time. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Inasmuch as Eland at long range is on your menu, I would opt for the 300 gr. Sierra BTSP as its flat shooting and works well on large game..Im not a Sierra fan as a rule, but Ive had such good luck with this bullet in the 375 that I feel its the best for way out yonder in a 375, and it shoots as flat or flatter than any other 375 bullet that Ive tried, but the 300 gr. Nosler partition is also a great option and I would probably choose it in DR country..but Namibia is mostly non dangerous game country.. My favorite option for long range plainsgame is the 338 win. with the 250 gr. partition or Accubonds..Its mostly been my second rifle on Safari combined with a 40 cal. for DG... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Trophy Bonded, Swift A-Frame, Nosler Partition | |||
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TSX 270; like Porsche, there is no substitute.. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Interesting point, Ben As they are only a bonded bullet and don't have a mechanical stop like the A-Frame or TBBC I can see your point. | |||
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Nice to see so many positive comments about Woodleigh. They are the best. I have a life time supply for my doubles. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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About the 275 grs Woodleigh PP in .375 H&H and Ruger, I have used them on big bull moose, on butterfat Zebra, waterbuck, blue wildebeest, oryx, and kudu pluss the usual varity of smaller antelopes, and also local red deer here at home without a single failure. They are also my "go-to" bullets in both 30-06 Sprg and 338-06 A-Square for local hunting moose, red deer, fallow, pigs and roe deer. Arild Iversen. | |||
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My personal favorite was the Bitterroot BBC, but since these are no longer produced and you probably don't have access to any, I'd say North Fork, Swift, or Woodleigh would be a second choice. | |||
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In my 375 HH I like the 300 go TSX. With it I have taken animals from Impala to Cape Buffalo with excellent results on all occasions. No need for more than that one load unless a solid is needed. | |||
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I'm using 250 gr TTSX on my June trip to Namibia. I use 300 gr TSX in Alaska. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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For my last plains game trip. I loaded the .375 H and H with with 275 gr. thin skinned CEB safari raptors with 72 Gr. RL 15 at 2600 fps with federal 215 large magnum primers with sub MOA groups. My boys and I shot 11 all with one shot kills. My eland and water buck were 260 yds. My son's spring buck was 440 yds. That combo simply killed what it hit. The black wildebeest I shot at 70 yds left a blood trail that Stevie Wonder could follow. Plenty of great plains game bullets and loads for the 375. It is such a great caliber and there is a reason it has been around for over 100 years. Pick what your rifle likes and put it where it needs to go. Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | |||
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I've shot the 300 grain TSX at 2,500 fps for steenbok to Buffalo since 2008 but sighted 2" high at 100 yards it is 12" low at 300 yards. The 250 grain TTSX at 2,900 fps sighted in 2" high at 100 yards is 5.8" low at 300 yards. (11.4" low at 350) Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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270 gr TTSX is an insanely accurate bullet in my 375 H&H. I have shot 270 gr since it was called the "X" Bullet. They keep changing the design, and my gun keeps shooting them in tight little groups, and I keep taking it to Africa its been to Bulgaria, Romania too and here in the USA of course. It is truly "One gun, one planet (one bullet)" | |||
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I used 260gr factory loaded NP's on my PG hunt last year.. no problems at all... That said, I've pretty much converted to 300gr Barnes TSX at this point and plan on using it next year on everything from hartebeest to buffalo.. | |||
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