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What about shooting a mentally challenged Wildebeest? Even if he was 1/8" bigger than mine. Does that make it right?  Sorry, I couldn't help myself. | |||
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Mac, THe cape buffalo, until some peta gets involved, or someone gets hurt, is not covered under the canned hunt statute. It is specifically
i would love it if some south texas 100,000 acres 4 unit/section ranch imported capes!! jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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jeffeosso, Just curious. Do you really think that 100,000 acres is equivalent to only 4 sections/units? One section is one square mile, which is 640 acres. That means 100,000 acres is 156.25 sections.  _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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Brice, that is a true reason to hunt anything without getting on a plane! The game ranches, if properly run, and with good habitat are valuable in another way as well! They make a very convenient place for a short weekend hunt, at any time of year in a state where there is absolutely no public land that isn't tied up in some way. As long as one hunts the more common game on these ranches they are a good value for a short hunt, just to ge into the field. I was born in Texas, and hunted all my life on a large ranch belonging to my grandfather. However, since the late 40s the only way a citizen of Texas can hunt anything is either have a hunting lease, or pay a trespass fee on private land, or as I did for 40 years, hunt in other states where there is loads of public land, like New Mexico, where there is 36,000,000 acres of public land for free hunting, or Alaska where there thousands of sq miles of free hunting land, and the out of stateer's non-resident license, for these states, are far cheaper than most trespass fees in Texas.  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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If the gy is afraid to fly, how is it he not afraid of animals with horns? or men with guns? Where is the logic here? He is afraid to fly so he must sacrifice ethics for the sake of his "fear". I should get $200 per hour to teach people how to deal with phobias.. | |||
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Just because the law says it is fine, does not make it right or ethical. Abortion and a few other issues come to mind. If we allow the law to decide what is ethical, we are headed down the wrong path. The law is not the standard - moral reasoning and decisions made with respect to all factors are a better standard. Hence this entire discussion. | |||
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I WORKED with a black cop who was 5'11" and about 170 and he was fearless, stand his ground with the best of them as the lead is flying and didn't think anything of taking point through the door or a bad alley looking for a bad guy who had already killed. At the same time he was terrified of cemetaries. Couldn't get him into one at gunpoint. I tried to sneal him into one as I was coming down the road and he actually jumped from the car at about 20mph, rolled on the grass and came to a stop and threatened me with GBH as soon as I came back out through the gate.  There is a difference between fear and phobias. They are real to the people afflicted and there is no connection to anything else. Fear of flying has nothing to do with a fear of armed men... or horned animals. A coward will fear most things dangerous. A person with a phobia will only have a problem in that particular area. NEVER fear the night. Fear what hunts IN the night. | |||
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Dogcat, I agree with you. I was merely making a point from a different side of view. However, I would ask as to who decides whether it is morally or ethically correct. Usually society in one way or another. But as we can agree, Abortion deals with human life. I think this is completely different anaolgy. But who decides what is ethical or non-ethical in terms of hunting? Most of the time the individual hunting. And I think that most hunters use the law that has been established through the entire decision process as a basis to determine whether it is an ethical method. How fortunate we are to live in a country that allows us to make that decison for ourselves! Ray Matthews Matthews Outdoor Adventures 2808 Bainbridge Trail Mansfield, Texas 76063 | |||
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Kudubull, I agree with you and especially your very last statement. Amen. I guess the reason a thread like this attracts so many comments as it touches our emotions more than others. When ethics, standards or rules are discussed - we all like to think our own are the best. I like these discussions as it makes me re-examine my own standards and ethics. This has been good for me and I enjoy the discussions. | |||
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Like I always say: "In the end the hunter hunts himself." Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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nope... it's cattle talk... land can be judged by how many units (cow, calf, and maybe baby on board) it can support by section. 4units/section would be HORRIBLE hard terrain. that's 8 walking cattle on 640 acres, as thats as much grub and water it holds. and, it USED to be cheap. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Oh, good. I was a little confused/worried there for a minute. You hit the nail on the head when you said it USED to be cheap. Those days are fading quickly. You can't even hardly find anything in South Texas for under $1,000/ac and most of it is over $1,500/ac!  _______________________________________________________ Hunt Report - South Africa 2022 Wade Abadie - Wild Shot Photography Website | Facebook | Instagram | |||
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