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I am leaving in 2 weeks for RSA. On the list this time among other large animals are possibly Jackel and Procupine. I will be using a 300RUM with 200gr. Swift A-frames for most of the plaines game and I will also have a 30-06 with 180gr. Swift A-frames. If I wanted to get a full procupine mount and save the Jackel backskins should I go buy some FMJ bullets to shoot them with? Most likely I will use the 30-06 for them but dont want to mess them up too bad. Any idea how bad the A-frames will mess up the animals compared to a FMJ bullet? Thanks for any suggestions or experiences on similar animals. | ||
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Download them FMJ...or ask ph if they have a 22 or a 223 rifle and use it on the porky and hit the jackal low in the chest.... Mike | |||
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Depending on the distance of the shot, I'll bet the heavier Swifts do just fine, especially the 06. Stay off the shoulder & you should be ok. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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Thanks, What do you aim for on a porcupine to do the least dmamge? On the Jackal I guess I should try to hit back behind the shoulder closer to the gut? I have never used FMJ's before so I dont know what they do compared to other bullets. | |||
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Are you allowed to take two rifles of the same caliber to the RSA? By caliber I mean bore diameter. It was my understanding that you couldn't. | |||
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Last go around I shot a real old tom wildcat and porky with my 375 with 300 grain silvertips. Both right behind the ribs. I life sized the cat. Perfect. SG | |||
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That is true. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Hey lengleng, I've taken three jackals with a .30-'06 using 180 grain Nosler Partitions. One was sitting looking at us and the bullet hit center of the neck between chin and brisket, the other two were hit broadside behind the shoulder. No entrance or exit holes were bigger than 1" but I don't know of what significance this is for taxidermy. I've also used a .223 with FMJ bullets and of course the holes were minute. I used a borrowed .22 for a porcupine, if you're going with Cruisers again you can see if that's a possibility. Make sure you aim low on the porcupine!  | |||
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Thanks again for the suggestions. I have talked to the outfitter and there is a 22 at camp if I want to use it on the porcupines. Otherwise I will use my 30-06, I got some FMJ bullets and need to shoot them to see how they shoot from my gun. If they dont shoot well I will just use the 180 A-frames. | |||
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Hard to beat that advice. You can't always control the exact angle a bullet will travel. You can destroy smaller game with a FMJ (which are illegal for hunting by the way) as easily with the '06 or 300, especially if you hit the wrong spot. Most all PH's have a small caliber on hand, but remember: for those hunting in RSA this year, all rimfires become illegal on June 1st. I guess they want to stop Rhino hunting with the 22 magnum  Go with a small caliber from your PH if at all possible. Speaking as a former Taxidermist, I speak from experience. Good luck on your hunt, LDKGray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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(which are illegal for hunting by the way) Interesting, I didn't realize that. Is that just here in the states or in Africa too? I assume its only becuase the bullet keeps traveling making it more dangerous? Or because it dosent kill as good? | |||
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lengleng Every province in SA has slightly different laws when it comes to hunting and it I suggest you check with your outfitter. Interestingly enough, in the Limpopo province - for example - if I am the owner of the ranch I am allowed to hunt with a .22 rimfire and so is my son and my father (with my written permission) but not my grandfather. Unless he has a permit. It is complicated. Fortunately, almost everything is possible with a permit ... Enjoy the hunt! Johan | |||
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A good hard cast bullet with a large meplat at around 1800 fps will take care of this for you. I shot a bunch of porcupines, a bushpig, and a caracal with a 45 long colt from a contender carbine with good effect. You could actually see the bullet's flight in the spotlight. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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Dont want to throw a wrench in the works but you might want to check with Fish and Game about importing Porcupine into the States, I believe they are no longer allowed in but also check, if they have to be Taxidermied in RSA before shipping. | |||
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You might want to speak with a real expert in porcupine taxidermy, Andre van Rooyen. I visited his shop with Jaco Human of AR and we found a room full of full mount porcupines, looked like a herd. Here's a link: http://www.avrtaxidermy.co.za/homefinal.htm Andre explained to us that field prep on a porcupine is particular, specific and important for the trophy to endure without the quills falling out. If I remember correctly he thought the best thing to do after shooting the animal is stick it in a freezer, without cleaning, and bring it to him frozen if possible. Jaco, is my memory correct? _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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