The Accurate Reloading Forums
Why shoot a croc in Africa?

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1411043/m/402108678

12 June 2008, 02:37
bluefin
Why shoot a croc in Africa?
Why shoot a croc in Africa when, as a US citizen, you can easily go to Louisiana or Florida and take one. No CITES permits, much cheaper to transport and tanning should be better.
Just curious why you guys go to Africa to take one.
12 June 2008, 02:41
jorge
ummm, because there are no Nile Crocs in Florida? that might be a clue. Or the Salt Water Croc in South Florida's heavily protected and gators are an entirely different animal. There's some food for thought for you...jorge


USN (ret)
DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
DSC Life Member
NRA Life Member

12 June 2008, 02:42
David Culpepper
Why not? It is a totally different experience, not all about getting the hide.


Good Hunting,

12 June 2008, 02:45
Northway
Why not? Yes I would want a croc. And yes I would want to shoot a gator. Different creatures for sure.
12 June 2008, 02:51
Jefffive
Why go to Africa for a kudu when there are deer in Georgia??


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
12 June 2008, 02:58
B Watson
Duhhhhhhhh hears your SIGN !!!!!!
12 June 2008, 03:02
B Watson
I apologise that was uncalled for and rude But jorge is right you cannot hunt croc in the US well you could but the USFG will come to take you away!!!!
12 June 2008, 03:18
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
ummm, because there are no Nile Crocs in Florida? that might be a clue. Or the Salt Water Croc in South Florida's heavily protected and gators are an entirely different animal. There's some food for thought for you...jorge


...........and to top that off the American crocs are totally protected! Now! Gators, that's something else again! bewildered


....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

12 June 2008, 03:33
SGraves155
Crocs in Africa are very hard to hunt--and it can be very exciting.
Crocs (or gators) that are accustomed to humans and to NOT being shot, just photographed or watched, lose their fear after several years and appear to be dumb lizards. They are not.
And the locals are usually very happy to be rid of things that eat their goats, cows, and wives.


Steve
"He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin
Tanzania 06
Argentina08
Argentina
Australia06
Argentina 07
Namibia
Arnhemland10
Belize2011
Moz04
Moz 09
12 June 2008, 05:42
retreever
Hey bluefin... The big big crocs and more than hard to get... They have survived over 80 years of hunting pressure. To get a monstrous lizard like I shot is hard to believe they are that large... 16 feet long and 14 men to carry him, 66 horendous teeth, and claws on his feet as thick as a finger.. Gators are not that big. Cheaper to hunt yes.. But no comparision in size..

Mike



That canine tooth is as long as a finger and 4 inches in circumference



Anchored him with a 375 TSX thru the brain 110yds

Lots of smiles to big for my African room...



Michael Podwika... DRSS bigbores and hunting www.pvt.co.za " MAKE THE SHOT " 450#2 Famars
12 June 2008, 06:32
MikeBurke
quote:
Originally posted by retreever:
Hey bluefin... The big big crocs and more than hard to get... They have survived over 80 years of hunting pressure. To get a monstrous lizard like I shot is hard to believe they are that large... 16 feet long and 14 men to carry him, 66 horendous teeth, and claws on his feet as thick as a finger.. Gators are not that big. Cheaper to hunt yes.. But no comparision in size..


In September I will begin my 30th year hunting gators in South Louisiana. If I ever hooked one that big it will be time for a new boat.

Nice croc.
12 June 2008, 07:09
Michael Robinson
It is too much like sniping to suit my tastes. But I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who wants to do it. The damned things give me the creeps.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
12 June 2008, 08:00
retreever
Mike, I agree it is like sniping.. no more no less...

Mike


Michael Podwika... DRSS bigbores and hunting www.pvt.co.za " MAKE THE SHOT " 450#2 Famars
12 June 2008, 08:21
bluefin
My apologies to my hunting Brethren (even Jorge Smiler). I didn't realize we couldn't hunt crocs here or that there was that much difference. I brought this up b/c I was in Venice, LA several yrs ago and a guy there had a 14 ft gator hanging. I know in FL you can hunt gators and even here in TX you can. In TX you have to do it thru the draw and I'm told the odds are pretty good and the local papers seem to have stories of big ones taken every year.
What I didn't realize was you all were going after a species that can't be hunted here. That's cool. I had read several reports of guys hunting for them and how excited the guys were.
Now I know. Thanks

BTW Retreever, that is one huge croc. Congrats.
12 June 2008, 09:23
infinito
mike, that's very nice croc. Did you guys notice he fits right in? That can be an eerie thought lying there!?

Well done on a good shot and trophy, they can be VERY hard to get.....

www.infinito-safaris.com


Charl van Rooyen
Owner
Infinito Travel Group
www.infinito-safaris.com
charl@infinito-safaris.com
Cell: +27 78 444 7661
Tel: +27 13 262 4077
Fax:+27 13 262 3845
Hereford Street 28A
Groblersdal
0470
Limpopo
R.S.A.

"For the Infinite adventure"

Plains Game
Dangerous Game
Bucket List Specialists
Wing-Shooting
In House Taxidermy Studio
In House Dip and Pack Facility
In House Shipping Service
Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris
Flight bookings

"I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?"



South Africa
Tanzania
Uganda
12 June 2008, 12:04
Rhys
I specificaly want to take one on my next trip because to my understanding going after a specific large croc in an extreme exersise in patience and precise shooting. Basicaly right up my alley.


Yes it's cocked, and it has bullets too!!!
12 June 2008, 18:07
butchloc
that is one huge croc, but i can't help but wonder whose canines are bigger?? Eeker hillbilly
12 June 2008, 18:22
daleW
Retreever,

Does your wife know you frequently visit that croc on the porch and make love to it? The picture tells all, just look at the smile on your face. The croc doesn't look like he is enjoying it.
12 June 2008, 18:33
jorge
Sorry bluefin, I thought you were being tongue in cheek... Smiler jorge


USN (ret)
DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
DSC Life Member
NRA Life Member

12 June 2008, 18:40
yukon delta
Mike has a bad habit of showing things that put the rest of us into fits...giant croc skins, huge matched ivory tusks, etc. etc.


_______________________________

12 June 2008, 18:50
Ivan
Retreever....

I think I'd stick to a bear skin rug for that kind of work. Big Grin

Congrats again on that monster.
12 June 2008, 19:54
Die Ou Jagter
You just have to know Mike and those eastern Pa type. hillbilly Wink You don't want to confuse them with we western Pa type, you know the type So very refined and sophisticated. As we say we get our corn from a jar. hillbilly hillbilly hillbilly beer
13 June 2008, 02:50
Duckear
quote:
Originally posted by B Watson:
Duhhhhhhhh hears your SIGN !!!!!!


I am the only one that found the irony?

"Here's your sign"


Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps.
13 June 2008, 03:14
Wendell Reich
I wanted to go my entire life without seeing Retreever stretched out on any kind of animal rug.

I just had to click here.
13 June 2008, 06:27
SGraves155
quote:
Originally posted by mrlexma:
It is too much like sniping to suit my tastes.


MR, only if they are shot in the water. Where you have to get them on the bank(deep, wide and fast water--like places on the Zambezi), they can be worse than stalking most plains game. If you're in a boat, and they're on the bank, it can really get interesting.
Their brain is golf-ball sized, and a close miss is gonna cost a pretty penny or two.


Steve
"He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin
Tanzania 06
Argentina08
Argentina
Australia06
Argentina 07
Namibia
Arnhemland10
Belize2011
Moz04
Moz 09
13 June 2008, 07:01
MARK H. YOUNG
Why shoot a croc in Africa? I guess because it is one of the most unigue hunting experiences out there or at least it was for me. Stalking a switched on crocodile is no slam dunk and if your shot is not perfect goodbye croc and trophy fee. I highly recommend to everyone that has the chance offered to take a big "Dile". The experience it is well worth it.

Mark


MARK H. YOUNG
MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES
7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110
Office 702-848-1693
Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED
E-mail markttc@msn.com
Website: myexclusiveadventures.com
Skype: markhyhunter
Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716
13 June 2008, 07:36
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by SGraves155:
quote:
Originally posted by mrlexma:
It is too much like sniping to suit my tastes.


MR, only if they are shot in the water. Where you have to get them on the bank(deep, wide and fast water--like places on the Zambezi), they can be worse than stalking most plains game. If you're in a boat, and they're on the bank, it can really get interesting.
Their brain is golf-ball sized, and a close miss is gonna cost a pretty penny or two.


Steve, you're right. I was thinking only of shooting them from a blind over bait at the water's edge. I agree that stalking them would be a lot more fun and I would jump at the chance to do that.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.