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I thought many of you might be interested in seeing the trophy quality of the second lion recently hunted. It was shot by 74 year old Larry Jarrett. In 23 days of hunting Mark’s clients shot three dugga boys, two big leopards, and two fabulous lions! Not bad for a 65 year old Tour Guide.

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Well done, congrats. Another amazing lion, another amazing season for Mark.


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Beautiful lion.

But none of my professional hunters has ever wanted to be photographed, or been photographed, alone with an animal that we have found and killed.

I find it odd.

It seems that Sullivan wants to be the client, and resents having to be the PH.


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Nice lion and congratulations to the PH and hunter. What area/company is Sullivan sub-leasing this season? Game Frontiers, perhaps?
 
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Many of Mark’s clients prefer to have Mark display his image with their animals on public/forum sites. Mark is arguably the best known PH around the world. Many clients work in career fields or positions where they do not want their personal image presented with some trophies. They understand they will likely be distributed widely once they are made public.

If the client prefers not to have their personal image displayed publicly with a particular animal (for their personal reasons) but would like their trophy shared I simply respect and accommodate their wishes.

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And it already began! Again with problems of him taking pictures with the client´s trophy. I can name at least 15 ph´s who have taken pictures with an animal they guided and their client took, a fair amount of them are well respected professional hunters and I don´t recall the clients ever having a problem with that.

By the way that is a great lion, congratulations to both the PH and the successful client.


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Nicely put Shawn.
 
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Nice and congrats to all involved.

Again. What area?
 
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Nice lion. Congratulations to hunter and PH.

I have recently started having my pictures taken with whatever is on the ground.

Have to renew my gun licenses soon and it makes me look good...on paper!


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Nice lion. Congratulations to hunter and PH.

I have recently started having my pictures taken with whatever is on the ground.

Have to renew my gun licenses soon and it makes me look good...on paper!


You are surely not going to actually make a statement that "you have actually hunted" the trophies with which you pose? Roll Eyes No? Big Grin Yes? Big Grin

It would mostly be the truth - often, but not always, most of the "hunting" is done by the PH - the client only does the actual shooting! So, why not bring the SAPS firearms officials under a misconception about who hunted the trophy? Big Grin Big Grin

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Very nice Lion Congrats to all involved.
We should just leave it at that.


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Very nice lion. I can only wish..... Smiler


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Beautiful lion.

But none of my professional hunters has ever wanted to be photographed, or been photographed, alone with an animal that we have found and killed.

I find it odd.

It seems that Sullivan wants to be the client, and resents having to be the PH.


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When someone asks a Professional Hunter (example) "How many lions, or elephants (etc)have you shot" Normally The answer they get is not how many the PH personally pulled the trigger on, but how many he has killed PLUS been involved at the kill of as a PH, in total.
After all client & PH are both hunting that trophy (even if PH never shoots). Remember, its called hunting, not shooting...so why not be proud of the achievement wanting a nice picture posing with the trophy, after all the hard work??

Most PHs have done this and I have done it sometimes too. While I try to train my trackers to take a good quality photo of me, the client and the trophy together...there is usually something to be desired (usually a head, horn or something cut off; too far back, etc). They are improving their photo taking skills, but if I want a real nice photo of the trophy (with me in it), then I simply ask the client to take one.

No, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with Mark (or other PH) alone with the trophy. It is his hunting memories too...and he's the guy that made it all happen.
 
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. . . I must have mistakenly logged on to a blog other than AR today. The next thing we will hear is that the lion was killed with a bullet other than a CEB or a NF. The rapture must be at hand.


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Beautiful lion.

But none of my professional hunters has ever wanted to be photographed, or been photographed, alone with an animal that we have found and killed.

I find it odd.

It seems that Sullivan wants to be the client, and resents having to be the PH.


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When someone asks a Professional Hunter (example) "How many lions, or elephants (etc)have you shot" Normally The answer they get is not how many the PH personally pulled the trigger on, but how many he has killed PLUS been involved at the kill of as a PH, in total.
After all client & PH are both hunting that trophy (even if PH never shoots). Remember, its called hunting, not shooting...so why not be proud of the achievement wanting a nice picture posing with the trophy, after all the hard work??

Most PHs have done this and I have done it sometimes too. While I try to train my trackers to take a good quality photo of me, the client and the trophy together...there is usually something to be desired (usually a head, horn or something cut off; too far back, etc). They are improving their photo taking skills, but if I want a real nice photo of the trophy (with me in it), then I simply ask the client to take one.

No, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with Mark (or other PH) alone with the trophy. It is his hunting memories too...and he's the guy that made it all happen.


I agree completely. I have no iron in the fire with the never ending Mark Sullivan circle jerk, and I don't know the man or any of his promoters
or detractors. This whole photo issue is, to me, just so much BS. Who cares!!??

I have not "PH'd in Africa, but I have been "guiding" big game hunters in Canada for 30 + years and I know many guides and outfitters who routinely have their pictures taken with the clients trophy for promotional purposes or personal memorabilia………… and just as many who avoid the camera whenever possible. I fall into the later category. I have always hated having my picture taken and usually avoid it like the plague.

To each their own, but I think there are more interesting topics to waste time on than the never ending Mark Sullivan saga.

To the original topic……… hell of a nice lion and congrats to all involved. We should all be so fortunate as to take a cat of that quality, but few of us ever will.


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No, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with Mark (or other PH) alone with the trophy. It is his hunting memories too...and he's the guy that made it all happen.


No harm at all if such photographic reminders are kept in an album and as long as they are not utilized publicly as an advertisement for personal gain. Wink
 
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I can name at least 15 ph´s who have taken pictures with an animal they guided and their client took, a fair amount of them are well respected professional hunters and I don´t recall the clients ever having a problem with that.
I CAN NAME 15 MORE...
THIS IS ABSOLUTY NORMAL

By the way that is a great lion, congratulations to both the PH and the successful client.
MY GRATULATIONS TOO.


 
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With the Facebook etc. lashings hunters are taking these days, it stands to reason that the actual hunters are camera shy, but such a magnificent lion should be part of Mark's gallery and list of accomplishments.

congrats all around.


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Fantastic lion. Congrats to everyone involved. Great photo as well.


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No, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with Mark (or other PH) alone with the trophy. It is his hunting memories too...and he's the guy that made it all happen.


No harm at all if such photographic reminders are kept in an album and as long as they are not utilized publicly as an advertisement for personal gain. Wink


That's it. Precisely.


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I have his videos and Mark Sullivan is a badasses badass. The man in fearless.
 
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I see a picture of a very fine trophy Lion.


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On a different note, MS has guided his clients to success on 2 exemplary Lions and should be congratulated for this feat. tu2

It furthermore confirms that West Tanzania is still a producer of superb wild Lions with manes so thick and matted which lends more credibility to their natural existence, much different to those recently posted cross-bred Abyssinian/Barbary/South African knot-less flowing maned (blow-dried) specimen. Big Grin
 
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On a different note, MS has guided his clients to success on 2 exemplary Lions and should be congratulated for this feat. tu2

It furthermore confirms that West Tanzania is still a producer of superb wild Lions with manes so thick and matted which lends more credibility to their natural existence, much different to those recently posted cross-bred Abyssinian/Barbary/South African knot-less flowing maned (blow-dried) specimen. Big Grin


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If I am ever blessed enough to hunt & kill a fine lion such as this, I will not care if the PH gets his picture with it plastered on the cover of every African hunting magazine in existence.
I have ask my PH's to pose with my animals before, just part of preserving the memory for me.
MS is a promoter, & basically he's the product he is promoting & apparently he's done a very good job of it.

Note to Mark: Don't stop now, you're on a roll.


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I,too, have known many PHs who get their pic taken with the game for their own records. There is always a pic with the PH and client. Then the client and staff, client and staff and PH, etc., I have known many clients who do not want their pic with the game to be seen by anyone. Many, due to their profession where if seen they will get reprimanded or fired. Many pics on my website <calpappas.com> come with the request only to show the game or the rifle, but not the face or name the person due to fear of publicity.
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If this were a pic of any other PH with a clients Lion nobody would say a thing.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a PH posing with a clients animal..stop the jealousy.
 
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Beautiful big lion. Congrats to all involved. IMO nothing else needs to be said.

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Beautiful big lion. Congrats to all involved. IMO nothing else needs to be said.

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Couldn't agree more- who gives a shit who is in the photo with the lion? It's a great lion! If I were there I'd want to be photographed with it too.
 
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No, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with Mark (or other PH) alone with the trophy. It is his hunting memories too...and he's the guy that made it all happen.


No harm at all if such photographic reminders are kept in an album and as long as they are not utilized publicly as an advertisement for personal gain. Wink


That's it. Precisely.


That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Don't these guys make a living selling hunts?

Even with your PH less trophy photos, we still know you aren't hunting them on your own.
 
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Beautiful big lion. Congrats to all involved. IMO nothing else needs to be said.

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Nice lion. Congratulations to hunter and PH.

I have recently started having my pictures taken with whatever is on the ground.

Have to renew my gun licenses soon and it makes me look good...on paper!


You are surely not going to actually make a statement that "you have actually hunted" the trophies with which you pose? Roll Eyes No? Big Grin Yes? Big Grin


BS baffles brains Andrew as you know! Not that I'm expecting to find brains in certain parts of the country.


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wow... mark is 65years old. he still looks strong and healthy.
the guys at my shooting range that are his age, would probably die if they shot a 577 or 600, or breake something.

hopefully i will look like him inn 40years time,
that made me kinda happy knowing that i have so many hunting years a head of me Smiler
thanks mark sullivan. hope you get to bee 80years old and still be inn africa with your 600NE in your hand in front off and old buffalo


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It would mostly be the truth - often, but not always, most of the "hunting" is done by the PH - the client only does the actual shooting!
In good hunting.


Oh man...you just said what was suppose to be a secret everybody knew, but know one would ever think about going puplic with it jumping


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Oh man...you just said what was suppose to be a secret everybody knew, but know one would ever think about going puplic with it

I always knew that it was the trackers & PH's that were the real hunters & my part was to make a good shot on the correct animal.


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There is absolutely nothing wrong with a PH posing with a clients animal..stop the jealousy.


Hardly a case of jealousy!

While there being a great fanfare about posting with one's own trophy to screw the anti-hunting sentiment, there are some who use it as an excuse not to pose for the want of less attention.
Besides, at the age of 74, I for one wouldn't give a damn about public image and what the antis think.

For a PH (any PH) to solo pose with a client's trophy and publish the photos publicly is just what it is - publicity; in the case of MS, whose identity is already established, the purpose of such pics is simply advertising propaganda launched by his agent.

Surely it would carry the same weight (and probably be more appreciated) if a photo or two from different angles of the trophy were published with a brief recount on how this splendid animal was taken. ..... just sayin' coffee
 
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If this were a pic of any other PH with a clients Lion nobody would say a thing.


Very insightful and absolutely spot on.


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