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Get Out the Vote! Hunters NEED To Remember To Vote! Now, more than ever, it is imperative that all sportsmen vote in the upcoming election on Tuesday, November 4, 2014. Our hunting heritage is under attack, and we need to protect it using our greatest tool at our disposal as U.S. Citizens, the ballot box... We need to neutralize OBAMA. | ||
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That said, Alaskans, let's get Sen. Begich (D) out. Vote Sullivan (R). ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Alaskans, while your at the polls voting for Dan Sullivan make sure you mark Sean Parnell for Governor. We have an opportunity to move forward!! | |||
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+1 ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Hopefully we can send some Dems to the skinning shed! | |||
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Hell, here in Colorado, both of our representatives, Bennett and Udall voted to adopt the UN small arms treaty..... We're screwed. | |||
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Hunters, are screwed, regardless of how we vote. The end is in sight and there really is nothing we can do to stop it. Our World has changed and our Society has changed too much to ever turn things around. Hunters/hunting are living on borrowed time. I do not believe hunting will end in my life time, but I am 64. I believe hunters in their mid to early 40's and younger will see hunting as we have known it end. The average American has moved so far away from nature and their place in it, and the importance hunting played in our survival, that they will never understand the importance hunting played in the building of our country. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Lets not make this a self-fulfilling prophecy! A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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Crazy..., this thinking is CRAZY. If we give in, we're DEAD for certain! Let's battle to the end, we may turn things around. VOTE, VOTE, and VOTE!!!! AIU | |||
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I applaud the idea and efforts. Thank you for bringing this up. Everyone, please vote out all anti-gunners in your respective states. My wife and I already have in Colorado. | |||
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No Dudes, this, "Thinking" is reality. We got Obama elected twice! That should tell any intelligent person something. Our World has changed and not for the better. Please explain how after 4 years of failed policy Obama could get re-elected! It is time hunters as a group faced reality, we are in the minority, and that is not going to change. We can wish and hope all we want, but reality is reality, and we are on the losing end. We are not recruiting enough new people to hunting! The present hunting population is aging! As a "Group" we find to many things to disagree on to ever present a United Front of any kind! Personal "Ethics" and elitism keep us separated! Should we do something, YES, but we should have done it 25 years ago! I have observed the changes in hunting for about as long as any of you, and I do not like what I have seen, but I know for a FACT, hunters simply can not put aside personal differences and stand united. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Gonna drag the swamp from the Political Forum over here? "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Crazy is a pessimist. And with good reason. I am an optimist. Also with good reason. Boddington used to argue that each time the end of hunting was predicted in Africa, opportunities popped up in areas not predicted. I am a market proponent. I am convinced that as long as there is a demand for hunting, some one will find a way to provide it. So, the answer is to recruit and mentor new hunters from all walks of life. They are our demand. Some one will provide the supply. Tom ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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No, just stating facts. Hunters are a shrinking minority. This has nothing to do with politics, but a fundamental change in the publics attitudes toward hunting and its place(?) in modern society. There are many facets involved in the shifting attitudes, "Hunters" turning hunting into a sporting competition, "Hunters" paying to shoot "Trophies" and the list gores on and on, and it crosses political lines/ideologies. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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twoseventy, I am not as much a pessimist as I am a realist. Yes, someone will find new "Hunting" opportunities, but at what price? Once the price of hunting goes beyond the reach of the average person, the average person will not support something that is no longer with in their reach! Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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God, please no! Those guys are nuts | |||
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Apathy and/or resignation will be the end of us. Yet, I understand how Obama would become depressing, but we've got to fight it. Teddy Roosevelt would not give up. Remember these quotes.., "Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time." Thomas A. Edison I'm going to VOTE! I hope you all do too. Regards, AIU | |||
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Vote early & vote often! Here in La. the dead vote in New Orleans has changed many elections. Problem is they all vote democrat. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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Yes, Obama was elected twice, that in itself is totally amazing, but I do think that many, not all, but many have woken up and realize that he is in competent and totally bad for America. Lets get out and vote and not let the few that are too stupid to see that win again. I do not buy in to the thinking that we are doomed as hunters. Access to hunting land is a big issue, but I believe we can beat back the antis at the polls and other ways. I know a lot of people that do not hunt but they do support our rights to do so. Don't count hunting license sales and assume those are the only supporters. Don't be a quitter. Get out and vote!! NRA Patron member | |||
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I choose to remain optimistic. Accepting a fate that has yet to materialize is akin to laying down and not fighting. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Optimism is a fine concept, as long as there is the possibility of things changing. The only changes I see are negative ones. Since this is the African hunting section, let's stay with just issues concerning hunting in African countries. Political instability and USF&W regulations are two concepts that are directly affecting hunting in Africa and in all likely hood are only going to deteriorate. Neither are going to be affected by American voters. Continuing economic instability world wide is also effecting hunters/hunting. If things can be turned around, that is great. Hunting is and always has been one of the most basic activities that has defined humans as the dominant species on Earth. Reality is however, since humans no longer HAD to hunt to survive, the species in general has been losing the concept of the importance hunting and its place in the overall make up of what makes us humans. That shift in thinking has only increased over the past 50 years, and I see no change in that philosophy. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Well once Kim Jung Crazy or Ayatollah Iran get's an EMP into the atmosphere, maybe the need to hunt will start a revitalization movement... There is a glass half full for you!! "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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Crazy, talking about accepting defeat will only help to move the defeat closer. Calling it reality is only hiding your true feelings. | |||
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First, I am not talking about accepting defeat without a fight. On the contrary, I believe ALL hunters should do every thing they possibly can to keep hunting a viable activity as far into the Earth's future as is possible. Reality however is that hunters, as a group, simply can not put aside their own personal ideas/beliefs/attitudes or concepts as to what is and is not hunting and who and who is not a hunter. How many of you that have responded or commented on this subject, willingly and openly admit to supporting ALL LEGAL forms of hunting? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Personally I accept all legal methods of hunting, that said some are not for me. I lost my holier than thou attitude long before I ever heard of AR. AR is a Johnny come lately to my life. | |||
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I feel exactly that same way, but as you well know if you have paid ANY attention to any discussions on this place, MANY hunters do NOT support ALL LEGAL hunting practices and are quite adamant about it and about their opinion of HUNTERS(?) that do partake of such practices. If one person has their right to hunt the way they choose, especially if it is a LEGAL form of hunting, taken away from them because other hunters thought/believed it was wrong, does anyone really believe those folks are going to support the methods of those folks that got their method shut down? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I feel that most in fact would/will, as long as that doesn't interfere with their "rights".... Hunting deer with dogs is a fine example IMO. I support the tradition of hunting deer with hounds as long as the hounds don't affect my hunting....IE crossing fences and running deer across an area I am "blind" or still hunting. I have a hard time supporting "high fence" hunting of native animals because it restricts the "free" movement of animals that belong to the citizens of the state. I don't object to the hunting behind the fence it's just the "taking possession" of the native game animals that I find offensive...... I also would hate to get "high fenced" in! That hinders the purpose of why I have propery, in my mind anyway.... . | |||
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My vote and my wife's vote has been sent...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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Now as to my question, if it came up for a vote, state wide, that hunting from a stand watching a timed feeder would be outlawed, would you support that or would you vote against such a proposal? Suppose such a measure passed due to the efforts of those that feel such a method is not really hunting, and then come next election, there is a proposal on the ballot, limiting or eliminating a hunting method the supporters of the ban on hunting over a feeders, are supporting, but because of their prior efforts you are no longer able to hunt the way you choose, you would actually support them even though it was those exact same individuals efforts that took your ability to hunt from you? I seriously doubt very many hunters would be willing to not exact a measure of revenge on others that deprived them of their ability to hunt as they chose to. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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An elderly gentleman from Indiana, Claude Willoughby, used to get up on the stage of the Members' Meeting at every NRA Annual Convention. He asked a question of all in attendance every year: "How do you know when your fight for your Second Amendment rights is over? If you can see your reflection in the mirror, it isn't!" Claude was over 100 when he passed. None of us can afford to quit fighting for our gun and hunting rights either. | |||
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No we can't or shouldn't quit fighting, but it is extremely beneficial in ANY fight to be able to identify ALL of your enemies! Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Looks like Begich is getting desperate.... ANCHORAGE — Mark Begich confirms he did vote for Obama. “I did, but that’s irrelevant. The president’s not relevant. He’s gone in two years” And hopefully Mark, you will be voted out in 12 days!! ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Quite sure we will have a runoff her in La. So we'll probably have to wait till Dec. to know for sure, but hopefully Katrina Mary will be on her way out the door. Unfortunately, the leader of the pack so far ain't exactly what we need either. LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I voted today by mail - straight Republican, pro-hunting, and pro-2nd Amendment. AIU | |||
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Thanks for the reminder. I am leaving the office now to mail my absentee ballot in the little post office downstairs. Unfortunately, Obama cronies seem to have a lock on my State of Illinois, but there is always hope and I certainly want my voice noted. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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Neutralizing Obama is NOT the issue. In case you have not heard he is an unpopular Lame Duck, on his way out. The upcoming election is important and everyone does need to get out and vote. However 2016 is going to be the real battle. | |||
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There are "Realists" and there are "Dreamers" - CrazyHorse is a realist, not a loser nor a pessimist. In the last 10/15 years the general mentality of our society has done a U-Turn and our generation with its traditional values, has found itself in the minority and consequently, an outcast in modern times. Am not saying we should bow out nor take it lying down, but facts are facts and we are seeing the changes taking place on a daily basis where hunting in whatever form is being ostracized and those who practice it are considered pariahs and the living scourge of the 21st Century; we have to be eliminated at all and whatever it may cost. Its happening folks! Your Senators and Governors, Constituency Reps. and whomever you wish, would look at saving rather than risking their sorry asses if they have to vote for your rights to hunt or not to hunt. I have often repeated the phrase and will repeat it again: "Its the beginning of the end of hunting as we know it". | |||
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An indian kid killed some classmates today in the Seattle area. Apparently he was also a hunter besides a young gun enthusiast. I don't think they are going to push to outlaw Indians but I would bet real money they will go after inanimate objects like guns and argue hunting is a causative factor. Nobody is going to admit that humans are dangerous and the real problem. We have to vote, not because it will change anything in the long term, but rather because it might hold off the inevitable for a few years. Even if we win, human population is going to crush hunting all on its own at some point this century. I'm voting so I can say I tried, not because it will do a damn bit of good. | |||
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I hate what is happening to hunting, and I hope everyone fights as hard as they can, but the deck is stacked against us, and in the case of Africa, and I have never been there, but merely the political instability of so many countries over there does not bode well for hunters or wildlife. As far as American voters making a difference, I do not remember ever seeing on any ballot since 1968 a place to vote for the people that run USF&WS. With continuing bans on the importations of trophies how long will it be before people give up going? I wish things were different world wide, hunting is the thing that helped humans become the dominant species on the planet, but too many people world wide have moved so far from reality and being in touch with the natural world and their place in it, and I simply do not see that changing. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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