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Originally posted by Anjin:

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Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Get Out the Vote!

Hunters NEED To Remember To Vote! Now, more than ever, it is imperative that all sportsmen vote in the upcoming election on Tuesday, November 4, 2014. Our hunting heritage is under attack, and we need to protect it using our greatest tool at our disposal as U.S. Citizens, the ballot box...

We need to neutralize OBAMA.

Thanks for the reminder. I am leaving the office now to mail my absentee ballot in the little post office downstairs.

Unfortunately, Obama cronies seem to have a lock on my State of Illinois, but there is always hope and I certainly want my voice noted.

I just filled out my absentee ballot this morning. While making my selections, I realize it is a shame we have Obama voters (I think we even have some hunters on this forum who are Obama voters).

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Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Apathy and/or resignation will be the end of us. Yet, I understand how Obama would become depressing, but we've got to fight it. Teddy Roosevelt would not give up.

Remember these quotes..,

"Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn."

Harriet Beecher Stowe

"Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time."

Thomas A. Edison

I'm going to VOTE! I hope you all do too.

Regards, AIU

I happen to disagree with Crazy on the trends. I have a different perspective on the US from having lived abroad for the past 23 years. [I'm coming back.]

Frankly, I am shocked at the healthy trend in shooting sports, gun laws and attitudes about CCW, et al. in so many parts of the US, even in states like Illinois. I never dreamed that the US public would find shooting, hunting and outdoors TV shows so popular, either. I see the pendulum as having swung back in a big way.

In addition to voting, we all need to follow one suggestion I saw. We should very publicly support our position on such issues, instead of letting the liberal press hog all the discussion.

That means we should support on social media folks like the women shooting champions, that young Texas Tech coed, Kendall Jones, who was brutally criticized for hunting in Africa, etc.

I follow one woman lawyer friend on Facebook who supports every anti-hunting and half-baked ecological cause. She forwards truly wacky stuff from them -- and from the anti-Monsanto GMO crowd, even though she knows I used to work for Monsanto and strongly support research that increases the food supply.

Occasionally I try to correct her on claims that elephants and leopards are endangered species (they are not) or that Seattleites should "rescue" 100 feral cats rather than turn them over to PETA, whom as we know deals with them quite differently.

The other day, out of curiosity, I checked to see how many followers she has on Facebook. It turned out to be NINE, of which I am one. IOW, if I unfollow her, the number goes down 11 percent!

I figure I will stay in contact. Even a little bit of correction can help.

Disagreement is a good thing. Other people do view things differently and that shows people are thinking and staying informed.

I base my opinion on this subject from the aspect of the long term future of hunting/gun ownership. Attitudes toward both, in America are changing and from what I am looking at those changes aren't positive.

I feel the biggest threats concerning Americans hunting in Africa, are political instability in African countries, and it does not matter how Americans vote since America has no control over the internal politics of those countries.

Next in line is our own USF&WS. This is also one that how Americans vote makes no difference as the folks in the hierarchy of the USF&WS are political appointees and as such live in their own little world.

I hope my estimations of the issue proves out wrong, and I really don't believe we will see the end in my life time, but, 30 or 40 years down the road, I don't view a rosy future for hunting or gun ownership world wide.

Watched Billary inform the populace that "...businesses don't create jobs" at a fund raiser for some twit. We all know how she feels about hunting.


Dutch

ANJIN,

Miracles do happen. Your state, Illinois, just elected a Republican Governor!!!!!

My state, Colorado, so far has voted a Republican sweep, and we are just waiting for final results for Governor. It's very close, but the Republican candidate is in the lead at the moment. Fingers crossed...

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
twoseventy, I am not as much a pessimist as I am a realist.

Yes, someone will find new "Hunting" opportunities, but at what price?

Once the price of hunting goes beyond the reach of the average person, the average person will not support something that is no longer with in their reach!

..................Reality!

Mac, I ain't as old as you I don't believe, but at 64, I know I am circling the drain, that is simple reality.

The key word in my statement is AVERAGE.

Todays AVERAGE person simply will not support something they can not participate in.

I think that is only going to become more evident as time goes along, people that get priced out of some activity, have no reason to continue to support that activity just so those that can afford it can continue participating in the activity.

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I think that is only going to become more evident as time goes along, people that get priced out of some activity, have no reason to continue to support that activity just so those that can afford it can continue participating in the activity.

I don't often agree with CHC, but I've been preaching this for over 20yrs.

IMO, voting mattered, and mattered a TON!! Obama is a total lame duck, and conservative values as well as our rights as hunters and shooters appear secure, at least for the next two years. Keep on voting and getting involved.

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Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
IMO, voting mattered, a mattered a TON!! Obama is a total lame duck, and conservative values as well as our rights as hunters and shooters appear secure, at least for the next two years. Keep on voting and getting involved.

+1

Yesterday we won.

I've been watching the post-election Obama reaction - a very scary, selfrighteous, arrogant, character.

Do you think he'll be impeached?