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Amazing what you find in the cupboard!
27 November 2009, 13:01
shakariAmazing what you find in the cupboard!
I had to troll through a cupboard last night and found a bunch of pics I'd forgotten about, many of which must go back 20 odd years and thought you might enjoy some of 'em. (These must be the pirst pics I've added to photobucket for several years!
Also found a letter from Joubert van Ingen of Van Ingen and van Ingen taxidermists where he told me he went to Tanganyika just after the end of WWII (he'd been a prisoner of the Japanese in Thailand, so must have been a tough SOB). He bought an old truck, hired some staff bought a hunting licence for 100 pounds that featured (see list below) and taken off to go hunting. Amongst the animals he took were 2 Elephants, one went just under 100 lbs a side and the other about 80 lbs a side.
Here's the list and below it a few pics..... some of which, I don't remember where or when they were taken.
2 x elephants
10 x buffalo
20 x zebra
2 x greater kudu
2 x sable
2 x roan
4 x lions
leopard, warthog and plains game, no limit.
C1992(?) I walked into this lot when I was helping a friend with her research. All I had in my hands was a pen, clipboard and GPS. I was in arse kicking range before I saw them and backed our PDQ. Pic was taken a few minutes later when I drove my friend in to show her why I'd ran back to the truck without getting the data I'd gone for.
Don't know about the date but late 80s - early 90s and in (I think) Sabi Sands ish area
Ngorongoro Crater, late (ish) 90s
No idea where or when except probably 80s
Zambezi Valley C19blackandwhite.
Early-mid 80s.
C1990
Clate 90s Tanzania
No idea where or when
I think it's the same Lion as is eating the Buff but don't remember if it was taken at the same time..... probably was though.
Early 90s next to Crocodile River. Taken on foot when I was doing research and only had pen, clipboard, GPS and camera with me.
27 November 2009, 16:04
kibokolambogoquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
I had to troll through a cupboard last night and found a bunch of pics I'd forgotten about, many of which must go back 20 odd years and thought you might enjoy some of 'em. (These must be the pirst pics I've added to photobucket for several years!
Also found a letter from Joubert van Ingen of Van Ingen and van Ingen taxidermists where he told me he went to Tanganyika just after the end of WWII (he'd been a prisoner of the Japanese in Thailand, so must have been a tough SOB). He bought an old truck, hired some staff bought a hunting licence for 100 pounds that featured (see list below) and taken off to go hunting. Amongst the animals he took were 2 Elephants, one went just under 100 lbs a side and the other about 80 lbs a side.
Here's the list and below it a few pics..... some of which, I don't remember where or when they were taken.
2 x elephants
10 x buffalo
20 x zebra
2 x greater kudu
2 x sable
2 x roan
4 x lions
leopard, warthog and plains game, no limit.
C1992(?) I walked into this lot when I was helping a friend with her research. All I had in my hands was a pen, clipboard and GPS. I was in arse kicking range before I saw them and backed our PDQ. Pic was taken a few minutes later when I took drove my friend in to show her why I'd ran back to the truck without getting the data I'd gone for.
Don't know about the date but late 80s - early 90s and in (I think) Sabi Sands ish area
Ngorongoro Crater, late (ish) 90s
No idea where or when except probably 80s
Zambezi Valley C19blackandwhite.
Early-mid 80s.
C1990
Clate 90s Tanzania
No idea where or when
I think it's the same Lion as is eating the Buff but don't remember if it was taken at the same time..... probably was though.
Early 90s next to Crocodile River. Taken on foot when I was doing research and only had pen, clipboard, GPS and camera with me.
Jambo Bwana
Two totally different cats if you ask me - the first has a "pink nose" and "punky black streak" on his
mane and unlikely qualifies for the skinning shed while the second has all the qualities of a shooter

27 November 2009, 16:29
shakariJambo Bwana, karibu?
Ah, but is that genuine pink nose or is it healing scar tissue, blood, mud or other foreign matter?

27 November 2009, 17:35
SGraves155Steve, can you tell what the lioness is eating?
27 November 2009, 17:41
shakariSteve,
I don't remember where or when let alone what the kill was I'm afraid........ looks to me like it might be a Buffalo calf to me though.
Anyone else got any ideas?
27 November 2009, 20:06
kibokolambogoquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Jambo Bwana, karibu?
Ah, but is that genuine pink nose or is it healing scar tissue, blood, mud or other foreign matter?
"Ole Pinkie" might even be a canned job (oops! - farmed lion) seeing
he's feeding on a halved buffalo carcass
By the way who's the chappie holding the buffalo skull?
27 November 2009, 20:18
shakariquote:
Originally posted by kibokolambogo:
By the way who's the chappie holding the buffalo skull?
Hard to believe but that's what I looked like in 1982...... and I've got considerably uglier even than that since!
I've just managed to work out that pic must have been taken in about May 82 when I'd just got home from an extended visit to the Welsh borders.
Bloody nice Buffalo though huh!
27 November 2009, 20:32
kibokolambogoAlmost 30 years ago! but the resemblance is there and I couldn't resist
And yes, a damn nice buffalo - maybe we should start a thread on the age limit for them
as well.

27 November 2009, 23:37
shakariJust found some on my photobucket pages that must have been there for yonks.
C 1980
C1980 with a Van Ingen & Van Ingen tiger skin.
From Joubert Van Ingen's house 'Bissal Munti' x 2
28 November 2009, 03:46
RobinOLocksleyVery nice pictures.The horns of that buffalo you were holding was awesome.Thank you for sharing.
Best-
Locksley,R
"Early in the morning, at break of day, in all the freshness and dawn of one's strength, to read a book - I call that vicious!"- Friedrich Nietzsche
28 November 2009, 07:28
AntlersThat buff is a dude!

Antlers
Double Rifle Shooters Society
Heym 450/400 3"
30 November 2009, 03:49
Matt GrahamWow - life-size gaur... there wouldnt be too many of them in the world... not hunted in the wild anyhow.
30 November 2009, 04:44
RugAwesome old pics shakari.
Very fine indeed , thanks for posting them.
See if you can dig up a few more, Please.
30 November 2009, 07:29
SevenxbjtWhat wonderful pics! Thanks so much!
30 November 2009, 09:53
shakariMatt,
The taxidermy in those photos would be worth a fortune now. I read somewhere that a Van Ingen & Van Ingen tigerskin rug had recently sold for something like UKP50K
I also seem to remember that one of the brothers held the mahseer record for a long time but would guess that's long been broken. Lokks like there's one to the right of the door in that last pic.
Rug,
I'll do my best, but I'm buggered if I can remember where most of the old ones went. I've also got a whole bunch of old pics that used to belong to the old guy in the pic and who got me into African hunting all those years ago. Amongst 'em were a pile of his Indian hunting pics that go back to they year dot and have the most incredible tiger hunting in places like the Himalayas. - I know I've got 'em somewhere but don't know where..... I'll have a go at finding 'em though.
30 November 2009, 10:06
Matt Grahamquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
I also seem to remember that one of the brothers held the mahseer record for a long time but would guess that's long been broken. Lokks like there's one to the right of the door in that last pic.
Yeah I saw that fish and immediately thought... mahseer..
30 November 2009, 10:30
shakariI had some cracking invitations for hunting and fishing around that time but was newly married and broke as hell, so couldn't accept them.
My uncle had a sheep station in (Queensland?) Oz and invited me over to hunt (if I remember correctly) water buffalo and roos and Joubert Van Ingen wanted me to go over there for the mahseer and even offered me the chance of a man eating or cattle killing tiger with the game dept of the time. (whichever happened to be available when I was there)
Ah well, that's life I guess.

30 November 2009, 18:28
butchlocwould that lion be old enuf to shoot now??

01 December 2009, 03:46
mstarlingSteve,
Wonderful pics! Thanks for sharing.
My, My ... the years have weathered you well. Some of us just got ugly!
Mike
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Knifemaker,
http://www.mstarling.com 01 December 2009, 10:38
shakariMike,
Thanks for those kind and diplomatic words. 'Weathered is a gentle way of putting it.
I guess my advantage is that I started ugly and so could only get fugier!
