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So who's going to be the first to hunt South Sudan? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201...ern_sudan_referendum Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | ||
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Could be interesting to see if and how long it takes to get hunting safaris going in the new Southern Sudan. I recall from the old hunting books that I have read that the Southern Sudan was even better than Kenya. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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Thats mayby true http://www.sudanwlsaf.com/gallery/southsudan-pa.htm Nec Timor Nec Temeritas | |||
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Could be poached out by this time...any info? Bob DRSS DSC SCI NRA & ISRA | |||
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Trav...ry?id=4484405&page=1 Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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I seem to remember reading a similar article that said due to the wet swampy nature of Southwestern Sudan it was hard to access and that's allowed for the wildfile to be untouched. Should be interesting! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Nile Lechwe? | |||
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thank you adam they look pretty cool. best peter | |||
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White eared kob Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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http://channel.nationalgeograp...ns-animals-sudan-kob white eared kob Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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I was there in '73 and I found it much better than Kenya, but supplies were tough to come by. | |||
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No question, that's what it is, shot 'em. | |||
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wrong!!!!!! | |||
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That sure looks like a white eared kob. Are they that similar in appearance?????? Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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I see that patch of white fur on the back of the neck. You are right,I am wrong. Beautiful animals!!!!! Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Am now in El Obeid as an observer for the secession referendum. Might out process through the office of the folks who engaged me in Juba. If I can, will try to contact the GOSS (Gov't of South Sudan) wildlife authorities to see what plans exist for sport hunting. At a minimum they'd need to do a census, although judging by earlier reports of the annual migration at least white eared cob are plentiful... Regards | |||
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Let's hear about your hunt! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Peter, They are correct. Nile or Mrs. Grey's lechwe! The Cabelas near where I grew up had one. Very handsome! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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I don't think that there are many tuskers left with all this poaching but this is a very interesting area!! | |||
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It's a funny looking little Greek guy who is a F(&*$*ING legend! | |||
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By all accounts much of southern Sudan was protected by the war and the Sud has retained good populations of game. Note the one in the photo is an average trophy and as the largest (and most handsome)of the Lechwe family some horns must go well into the 40's. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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if there game populations are like northern Uganda hunting will be good. | |||
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The white kob looks like a very pretty animal. The markings remind me of an indian black buck | |||
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A lot of census work on animal populations has already been done, by Mike Fay notably, but not only Mike. While you are talking to wildlife officials, stop and say hello to Dr. Daniel Wani, who I know well. But to answer the question, I would have no hesitation about hunting in Southern Sudan. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Sudanese have strong ties with Somalis...careful/caution...should be the key words there. There are things that took place in that little niche of the world that few know about but they make the holocaust look mild. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I was involved via the massive gold rush in Sudan last year (I own a metal detecting company) and was called daily to sell gold detection equipment via Dubai which I declined to sell outside the USA. Apparently, there was extreme deceit going on and killings due to prospecting and smuggling metal detectors as initially both were illegal in Sudan (instruments of war). Trust in anything was absent. I would want a well established Outfit doing business for at least a couple of years before I set foot in Sudan, even then your risking life and limb. Now, thanks to the Catholic church, we (Nashville, TN) are getting about 700 Sudanese as immigrants. We are being asked to house them, teach them English and find them jobs. AFTER, they are settled in our security folks will "screen them" just in case a few might have vile intentions towards the US. This is a world gone mad and FYI, don't think your going to waltz into Sudan without the "EYE" on you. Caveat Emptor! LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Never thought that Sudan has/d such rich and diverse wildlife.Interesting. Best- Locksley,R. "Early in the morning, at break of day, in all the freshness and dawn of one's strength, to read a book - I call that vicious!"- Friedrich Nietzsche | |||
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I'm hardly an expert or claim to be. That said my understanding was that north Sudan had the muslims for the most part and south Sudan had christian, native religions, ect and that was the conflict. If they split into a northern muslim nation and a southern christian/whatever else nation wouldn't that solve the problem for the most part? Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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noop there is gold and gem stones as well as oil under Sudan. the fighting will continue just like it has in every country in Africa when riches are discovered. | |||
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Brett, A step in the right direction for sure. But we are talking Sudan. Caution my friend...caution. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane is right I have known people who live and work in Sudan it's not a normal place for either. Killing is just what they do. Life has no value to a lot of Sudan's population. in Kenya they say that the Sudanese are all yzumu(crazy) and love to kill | |||
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Don't worry. Not planning any hunts there. Just what if-ing..... brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Yep, them Sudanese are all crazy killin fools...and all Americans are fat, pistol packing, right wing evangalists looking for somebody to over run, convert, and steal all their natural resources! Careful of stereotypes, my friends  . They work both waysH. Cole Stage III, FRGS ISC(PJ), USN (Ret) "You do not have a right to an opinion. An opinion should be the result of careful thought, not an excuse for it." Harlan Ellison " War is God's way to teach Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce | |||
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read it again I was quoting people who live and work there. well ya every one know's and all Americans are fat, pistol packing, right wing evangalists looking for somebody to over run, convert, and steal all their natural resources! your forgot rich and want to be stolen from, over sexed, and stupid,  | |||
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Well...you are partially correct...except for the liberal crowd...we aren't fat...we work to hard.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Early on I brought this thread to the attention of an aquaintance of mine, Chuck Bazzy. He hunted Sudan a lot back in the 60's and 70's (he started hunting in Africa back in the 50's). Chuck talks about Sudan a lot as it was (once) very near and dear to his heart. He discusses hunting there in detail in his Safari Press book 'Sun Over the Dark Continent' Here is his response to my email... Matt: I forgot my log in and password. How can I recover it? I have first hand information. Frasier the game warden for the South has closed hunting for 15 years. Poaching and the local population with AK 47's have devasted the game population. The vegetation has been cleared for many miles from Juba (look at the satellite maps). The Chinese are building roads to access oil drilling sites. There may be no hunting for many years to come. You may post my comments. Chuck. | |||
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Sad and very believable. STAY IN THE FIGHT! | |||
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Actually...there is still game there...albeit probably NOT like before...it is the AK's that worry me...as they are plentiful now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Folks, You might want to pay attention to what Matt has passed along from Chuck. I have talked to Chuck about hunting in Sudan for several years. He has many contacts there and the place was/is dear to him. He knows what he is talking about. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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