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So who's going to be the first to hunt South Sudan?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201...ern_sudan_referendum

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Could be interesting to see if and how long it takes to get hunting safaris going in the new Southern Sudan. I recall from the old hunting books that I have read that the Southern Sudan was even better than Kenya.


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I recall from the old hunting books that I have read that the Southern Sudan was even better than Kenya.


Thats mayby true http://www.sudanwlsaf.com/gallery/southsudan-pa.htm


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Could be poached out by this time...any info?


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I seem to remember reading a similar article that said due to the wet swampy nature of Southwestern Sudan it was hard to access and that's allowed for the wildfile to be untouched. Should be interesting!

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Nile Lechwe?
 
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thank you adam

they look pretty cool.

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White eared kob


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white eared kob


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Could be interesting to see if and how long it takes to get hunting safaris going in the new Southern Sudan. I recall from the old hunting books that I have read that the Southern Sudan was even better than Kenya.


I was there in '73 and I found it much better than Kenya, but supplies were tough to come by.
 
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Nile Lechwe?


No question, that's what it is, shot 'em.
 
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White eared kob


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That sure looks like a white eared kob. Are they that similar in appearance??????


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I see that patch of white fur on the back of the neck. You are right,I am wrong.

Beautiful animals!!!!!


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Am now in El Obeid as an observer for the secession referendum. Might out process through the office of the folks who engaged me in Juba. If I can, will try to contact the GOSS (Gov't of South Sudan) wildlife authorities to see what plans exist for sport hunting. At a minimum they'd need to do a census, although judging by earlier reports of the annual migration at least white eared cob are plentiful...

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Could be interesting to see if and how long it takes to get hunting safaris going in the new Southern Sudan. I recall from the old hunting books that I have read that the Southern Sudan was even better than Kenya.


I was there in '73 and I found it much better than Kenya, but supplies were tough to come by.


Let's hear about your hunt!

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Peter,

They are correct. Nile or Mrs. Grey's lechwe! The Cabelas near where I grew up had one. Very handsome!

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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
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May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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I don't think that there are many tuskers left with all this poaching but this is a very interesting area!!


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By all accounts much of southern Sudan was protected by the war and the Sud has retained good populations of game.

Note the one in the photo is an average trophy and as the largest (and most handsome)of the Lechwe family some horns must go well into the 40's.


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if there game populations are like northern Uganda hunting will be good.
 
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The white kob looks like a very pretty animal. The markings remind me of an indian black buck
 
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Am now in El Obeid as an observer for the secession referendum. Might out process through the office of the folks who engaged me in Juba. If I can, will try to contact the GOSS (Gov't of South Sudan) wildlife authorities to see what plans exist for sport hunting. At a minimum they'd need to do a census, although judging by earlier reports of the annual migration at least white eared cob are plentiful...

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A lot of census work on animal populations has already been done, by Mike Fay notably, but not only Mike. While you are talking to wildlife officials, stop and say hello to Dr. Daniel Wani, who I know well.

But to answer the question, I would have no hesitation about hunting in Southern Sudan.


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Sudanese have strong ties with Somalis...careful/caution...should be the key words there.

There are things that took place in that little niche of the world that few know about but they make the holocaust look mild.


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I was involved via the massive gold rush in Sudan last year (I own a metal detecting company) and was called daily to sell gold detection equipment via Dubai which I declined to sell outside the USA. Apparently, there was extreme deceit going on and killings due to prospecting and smuggling metal detectors as initially both were illegal in Sudan (instruments of war). Trust in anything was absent. I would want a well established Outfit doing business for at least a couple of years before I set foot in Sudan, even then your risking life and limb.

Now, thanks to the Catholic church, we (Nashville, TN) are getting about 700 Sudanese as immigrants. We are being asked to house them, teach them English and find them jobs. AFTER, they are settled in our security folks will "screen them" just in case a few might have vile intentions towards the US. This is a world gone mad and FYI, don't think your going to waltz into Sudan without the "EYE" on you. Caveat Emptor! LDK


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Never thought that Sudan has/d such rich and diverse wildlife.Interesting.

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Sudanese have strong ties with Somalis...careful/caution...should be the key words there.

There are things that took place in that little niche of the world that few know about but they make the holocaust look mild.


I'm hardly an expert or claim to be. That said my understanding was that north Sudan had the muslims for the most part and south Sudan had christian, native religions, ect and that was the conflict. If they split into a northern muslim nation and a southern christian/whatever else nation wouldn't that solve the problem for the most part?

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noop there is gold and gem stones as well as oil under Sudan. the fighting will continue just like it has in every country in Africa when riches are discovered.
 
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Brett,
A step in the right direction for sure. But we are talking Sudan. Caution my friend...caution.


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Lane is right I have known people who live and work in Sudan it's not a normal place for either. Killing is just what they do. Life has no value to a lot of Sudan's population. in Kenya they say that the Sudanese are all yzumu(crazy) and love to kill
 
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A step in the right direction for sure. But we are talking Sudan. Caution my friend...caution.


Don't worry. Not planning any hunts there. Just what if-ing.....

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Yep, them Sudanese are all crazy killin fools...and all Americans are fat, pistol packing, right wing evangalists looking for somebody to over run, convert, and steal all their natural resources!

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read it again I was quoting people who live and work there.

well ya every one know's

and all Americans are fat, pistol packing, right wing evangalists looking for somebody to over run, convert, and steal all their natural resources! your forgot rich and want to be stolen from, over sexed, and stupid, jumping jumping jumping
 
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Yep, them Sudanese are all crazy killin fools...and all Americans are fat, pistol packing, right wing evangalists looking for somebody to over run, convert, and steal all their natural resources!


Well...you are partially correct...except for the liberal crowd...we aren't fat...we work to hard. Wink


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Early on I brought this thread to the attention of an aquaintance of mine, Chuck Bazzy. He hunted Sudan a lot back in the 60's and 70's (he started hunting in Africa back in the 50's). Chuck talks about Sudan a lot as it was (once) very near and dear to his heart. He discusses hunting there in detail in his Safari Press book 'Sun Over the Dark Continent'

Here is his response to my email...

Matt:

I forgot my log in and password. How can I recover it? I have first hand information. Frasier the game warden for the South has closed hunting for 15 years. Poaching and the local population with AK 47's have devasted the game population. The vegetation has been cleared for many miles from Juba (look at the satellite maps). The Chinese are building roads to access oil drilling sites. There may be no hunting for many years to come. You may post my comments.

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Sad and very believable.


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Early on I brought this thread to the attention of an aquaintance of mine, Chuck Bazzy. He hunted Sudan a lot back in the 60's and 70's (he started hunting in Africa back in the 50's). Chuck talks about Sudan a lot as it was (once) very near and dear to his heart. He discusses hunting there in detail in his Safari Press book 'Sun Over the Dark Continent'

Here is his response to my email...

Matt:

I forgot my log in and password. How can I recover it? I have first hand information. Frasier the game warden for the South has closed hunting for 15 years. Poaching and the local population with AK 47's have devasted the game population. The vegetation has been cleared for many miles from Juba (look at the satellite maps). The Chinese are building roads to access oil drilling sites. There may be no hunting for many years to come. You may post my comments.

Chuck.


Actually...there is still game there...albeit probably NOT like before...it is the AK's that worry me...as they are plentiful now.


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Folks, You might want to pay attention to what Matt has passed along from Chuck. I have talked to Chuck about hunting in Sudan for several years. He has many contacts there and the place was/is dear to him. He knows what he is talking about.


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