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Originally posted by larryshores:
If they extradite, that is different.

We would have issues with our government as well.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
The line for me is when they start publishing the names and addresses of hunters they "think" might have done something wrong. That should be kept private until the investigation is over at the very least. I'll take my money to other places that don't put on public witch hunts for sportsman that pay good money helping fund their wildlife.

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Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
"Irreparable damage has already been done to these two American hunters by damaging their reputations and ability to make a living at their practices."


----If these hunters are not co-conspirators,
as many of us suggested they might not be.

Those here and others in the hunting "community"
most assuredly owe an apology to these hunters.

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Originally posted by Neil A:
Hard to tell from article whether it is just a repeat of the announcement of a couple of days ago, closing lion, leopard and elephant around the park or a new nationwide closing?

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Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
I am cynical enough of the Zim government situation to believe this may just be a shakedown.

They will take all the funds they can garner from the sympathy donations from the anti's--
and then--
shakedown the PH's and hunters in the process, with higher fees-
maybe not-- just a thought

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"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

That's enough for me right there! After paying for the trip and flights and taking off work!

Stop hunting??????

Mad Bob is doing this for personal gain, you watch money donated to this "cause" will end up in a Swiss bank account!

I agree with Tanz-PH, nothing short of a boycott will fix this. We as hunters need to stick together and though we can't submit a ballot in Zim, we can vote with our pocket books.


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quote:

Originally posted by Zimbabwe Wildlife Conservation:
This mornings meeting was well attended, members from both hunting and photographic operators, press, national parks senior staff and some independent guys from scientific sectors and a few NGO's.

ZCTF "Johnny Rodrigues " was nowhere to be found.. Shows you how much he cares about the industry, just goes to show how unpopular he is in local conservation circles.

Not a huge amount achieved, but moving in the right direction. A few irate operators who operate on the boundary of the park, as all hunts suspended, including some guys in the field hunting already.

ALL hunting areas in and around the park has been suspended until further notice. It was said and parks agreed, a few unruly elements have caused and are responsible for this crisis, causing everyone operating legally to be tarred with the same brush.it was unanimously agreed that the offending operators / professional hunters involved be prosecuted and charged where they have transgressed any law .

In our opinion these illegal lion off takes occurred in the gwaai conservancy areas, if anything this area should have been suspended to conduct investigations etc.not a blanket suspension .

Mixed messages as usual from national parks, they claiming government has suspended the hunting in these areas. With national parks being the regulatory body, it would be them who would be tasked to remedy this situation. Director General could easily have made this call, and advised his minister, giving the facts and reason etc, but they national parks said it was not their call, and they had been tasked to map the way forward, hence this meeting was called.

Parks were taken to task on the issue of client confidentiality. Members agreed once a offender has been convicted in a court of law, by all means disclose this personal information.but until such time that occurs details should remain confidential and privy to relevant authorities.

Quota transfer - national parks re-iterated this is "illegal ".. And has been stopped with immediate effect. A positive move long overdue. Independent Conservation and industry experts reiterated the need to regulate and police existing regulations effectively, rather than bringing more regulations in as a result of the crisis.

A commitee has been set up with representation from various stake holders within the industry, to formulate and map the way forward, in consultation with national parks. All in all parks have agreed to more of an open door policy, so let's see moving forward from here. They cannot afford to lose the much needed business from foreign hunters.

There was no mention of extradition of either client in these hunts. We think that rhetoric is most probably political if anything, but still damaging to our industry, as future clients may be hesitant to come to Zimbabwe . These concerns were stressed in strong terms to the national parks Director General aswell.

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Originally posted by subsailor74:
If you extradite, say goodbye to your hunting industry.

Jeff

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

That's enough for me right there! After paying for the trip and flights and taking off work!

Stop hunting??????

Mad Bob is doing this for personal gain, you watch money donated to this "cause" will end up in a Swiss bank account!

I agree with Tanz-PH, nothing short of a boycott will fix this. We as hunters need to stick together and though we can't submit a ballot in Zim, we can vote with our pocket books.


.

You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

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Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

That's enough for me right there! After paying for the trip and flights and taking off work!

Stop hunting??????

Mad Bob is doing this for personal gain, you watch money donated to this "cause" will end up in a Swiss bank account!

I agree with Tanz-PH, nothing short of a boycott will fix this. We as hunters need to stick together and though we can't submit a ballot in Zim, we can vote with our pocket books.


.

You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

Does it really matter? If it where your hunt how would you like it?


.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

That's enough for me right there! After paying for the trip and flights and taking off work!

Stop hunting??????

Mad Bob is doing this for personal gain, you watch money donated to this "cause" will end up in a Swiss bank account!

I agree with Tanz-PH, nothing short of a boycott will fix this. We as hunters need to stick together and though we can't submit a ballot in Zim, we can vote with our pocket books.


.

You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

Does it really matter? If it where your hunt how would you like it?


.

I wouldn't but I also wouldn't be hunting on seized land in Zim.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
...
You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

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Originally posted by tanks:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
...
You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

I was talking to a PH friend of mine last night. This effects EVERYONE of his hunts scheduled this year. He is looking to working in Zambia rest of the year now.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

"The government is “directing all those in currently in the field to stop their hunting activities and withdraw,” Zimbabwean Environment Secretary Prince Mupazviriho said in an e-mailed statement today."

That's enough for me right there! After paying for the trip and flights and taking off work!

Stop hunting??????

Mad Bob is doing this for personal gain, you watch money donated to this "cause" will end up in a Swiss bank account!

I agree with Tanz-PH, nothing short of a boycott will fix this. We as hunters need to stick together and though we can't submit a ballot in Zim, we can vote with our pocket books.


.

You do realize that statement is in reference to lands boarding Hwange Park only right?

Does it really matter? If it where your hunt how would you like it?


.

I wouldn't but I also wouldn't be hunting on seized land in Zim.

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Originally posted by subsailor74:
If you extradite, say goodbye to your hunting industry.

Jeff

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Originally posted by Clan_Colla:
appeals for funding from the donor community and well-wishers