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There have been several threads on the forum in the last several days regarding the Newsweek article that inappropriately blurs the distinction between hunters and poachers.

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Hunter Formerly Known as Texas Hunter sent the following letter to Newsweek and they are planning to run it in the letters to the editor feature:


The decimation of wildlife in West and Central Africa is the sad reality of destruction of priceless creatures by criminals that violate law--bush hunters, poachers, rebel forces and tribal herdsmen poisoning lions, leopards and hyenas in national parks to protect their livestock illegally grazing in the park. Please distinguish between these illegal hunters and those that hunt non-threatened species legally. There is quite another story to be told of the billions of dollars infused into African economies such as that of Tanzania by the legal hunting industry. This industry has created a very high value on wildlife which is recognized by the citizens and government and has led to highly successful game management practices which are strictly enforced (to the extent anything is strictly enforced in Africa). Species populations in Tanzania, Namibia and South Africa, for example, are much larger now than just a few decades ago. To fail to distinguish between legal and illegal hunting and paint all hunting with such a broad brush is deceptive and damaging to one of the proven methods to preserve wildlife populations.

Russell Reese
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They have asked him to verify the following facts:

1) There is quite another story to be told of the billions of dollars infused into African economies such as that of Tanzania by the legal hunting industry.

2) Species populations in Tanzania, Namibia and South Africa, for example, are much larger now than just a few decades ago.

Does anyone have any information/links he can use to provide the necessary verification? Thanks.


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I hope SCI gets all over this clap


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Here is an Elephant link that might help. I glanced over it quickly. Don't know if it will help or not.

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And another: sport hunting link

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I beleive Craig boddington in African Hunter II talked about wildlife benefits for South Africa now compared to three decades ago. Also just look at where the strongest remnant populations of Black Rhino. Hint: they aren't in national parks.
 
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He needs to get SCI to help with the response to make sure he gets it right.
 
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My understanding is that he did call SCI and they did not call him back. Not sure what to make of that.


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Check out the Laikipia Predator Project, run by wildlife biologist Laurence Frank of the University of California, Berkeley. That's right - Berkeley, California.

A quote from this link: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/06/MNG1UF392D1.DTL
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Frank said the best way to ensure the lion's survival would be to allow a few of them to be shot for money. Big game hunters will pay $50,000 or more to bag a single, mature male, he said, making lions far more valuable to the local economy than cattle or even tourism.

Big game hunting, however, has been banned in Kenya for more than 20 years.

"It is not widely recognized by the American public, but since trophy hunting was banned in Kenya, game populations have declined by 80 percent," he said. "In Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, Tanzania, all places where controlled hunting is still allowed, the game has increased exponentially, and the local people have profited."

Drewes concurred that hunting can be an effective conservation tool in East Africa.

Professional hunters typically lease large blocks of land, then patrol them constantly, tightly controlling the number and variety of animals taken, he said. When hunters were banned in Kenya, Drewes said, this meticulous stewardship of the game lands ended, and widespread poaching ensued.



And this article by Dr. Frank published in http://www.africanindaba.co.za/Archive07/AfricanIndabaVol5-3.pdf

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Restoring Kenya’s Squan-dered Heritage
By Dr Laurence Frank, Laikipia Predator Project, Kenya
Editor’s Note: Dr. Laurence Frank, from the Wildlife Conser-vation Society and the University of California, Berkeley, has studied predators in Kenya for 37 years. He runs the Living With Lions project, working on lion conservation in Laikipia and Loitokitok Districts. He is not a big game hunter.
An edited version of this article was published in March by The Daily Nation, Nairobi – Here is Dr Frank’s original text:
Kenya has squandered its most important resource: seventy percent of our wildlife has disappeared in the last thirty years. They have been strangled in snares by the millions, to be sold as ‘nyama’ in rural and urban butcheries. Even in our national parks, many species are in serious decline due to poaching and habitat destruction on their boundaries; even the lions and other large predators which attract tourists to our parks are being speared and poisoned into extinction.
In that same thirty years, South Africa, Namibia, and Zim-babwe have seen an immense increase in wildlife numbers, as thousands of cattle ranches have been turned back to wildlife production (sadly, much of Zimbabwe’s regained wildlife was snared after ‘land reform’). Wildlife continues to do very well in Tanzania and Botswana. What accounts for the collapse of wildlife in of Kenya while it has increased enormously in the southern countries? Human populations have grown in most countries, so that does not explain the difference.
One difference is that in those countries wildlife outside of parks has great value for sport hunting, whereas in Kenya wild animals are just a costly and expensive nuisance to the rural people who share the land with them. Kenya shut down trophy hunting in 1977, just as landowners and communities in south-ern Africa found that their land was worth far more when produc-ing wildlife for high paying foreign hunters than it was for cattle. Landowners carefully manage their land to produce wild game, and carefully regulate hunting to ensure a lasting crop of trophy animals. With 250,000 square kilometers outside of parks main-tained for hunting, Tanzania has more wildlife than any country in Africa and income from trophy hunting is a mainstay of the national economy. Kenya’s policy, which denies rural people any benefit from wildlife, ensures that people resent animals for destroying their crops, eating their livestock, and occasionally killing people. To a rural Kenyan, it makes absolute sense to eat the game and kill the predators, because they gain nothing from, and lose a lot to wild animals. In other countries, well managed hunting brings money and development to rural areas. How can a country without legal hunting see its wildlife spiral into extinction? The answer is bad policy – our policy ensures that rural people resent wildlife, instead of profiting from it. This tragic state of affairs has been maintained by foreign animal rights groups which spend millions of pounds and dollars annu-ally influencing Kenyan policy makers and the media to ensure that their destructive policies are maintained. These overseas groups apparently do not seem to care that millions of our ani-mals strangle miserably in snares, so long as none are shot for profit. They boast to their American and British supporters that there is no hunting in Kenya, not admitting that as a result there is little wildlife left in Kenya, either. They rent mobs to demon-strate against any improvement in policy, and fill the Kenyan press with nonsensical claims that hunters want to indiscrimi-nately slaughter game, even in national parks, and stir racial strife by claiming that hunting would benefit only “rich wazungu†rather than impoverished pastoralist communities.
In North America, Europe, and southern Africa, properly managed hunting has greatly increased wildlife populations, because people value it – no species has ever gone extinct due to sport hunting, because it is in the hunters’ interest to ensure large populations. In fact, trophy hunters want only large old males, with impressive horns, tusks or manes, animals that are no longer needed to produce offspring. Unlike bushmeat poachers, they do not take females and young, ensuring an abundance of wildlife.
In Botswana today, a very few male lions are shot every year, at a price of nearly ten million Kenya shillings each. Fully half of that fee goes to the rural community in which the lion was taken, and another quarter goes to the Wildlife Department for conservation. Five million shillings would repay a community for 400 cattle taken by lions. Or support dozens of teachers or trained nurses. In Botswana, that lion, and all the associated wildlife, are a source of immense income, to be valued and en-couraged. In Kenya, that lion is only an expensive, cattle-killing nuisance, to be poisoned or speared and left to rot in the sun.
Of course, many people object that serious money brings se-rious corruption, and claim that Kenya could not possibly regu-late hunting properly. However, the old East African Professional Hunters Association took great pride in the ethical behavior of its members, and policed itself far more rigorously than the Game Department ever could. I believe that professional ethic is still strong in Kenya, and that properly managed hunting would benefit rural communities and landowners while increasing wild-life populations. If the rest of the world can manage wildlife for conservation and rural peoples’ well-being, so can Kenya. What we do know is that the old policy, bought by foreign pres-sure groups, has been a disaster for our wildlife heritage.


A quote from this link:
http://mvz.berkeley.edu/Laikipia_Predator_Article.html
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A ROLE FOR TROPHY HUNTING?
The selous game reserve in southeast Tanzania is the largest in Africa. Established in 1905 and stretching over 21,000 sq. mi., it is bigger than Switzerland and chock-full of wildlife: 4,000 lions, 110,000 buffalo, 50,000 elephants. But because it is hard to access, covered with dense scrub and lacking in the spectacular vistas found in the Serengeti to the north, it draws fewer than 5,000 visitors annually—less than 1% of tourists who visit Tanzania. To pay for the upkeep of the Selous and for antipoaching patrols over its vast area, the reserve's managers rely on another source of funding: big-game hunters. In Tanzania, hunters will pay up to $80,000 to shoot a lion. In 2002, 226 trophy lions were shot in Tanzania, many in the Selous reserve.

Conservationists used to choke on the topic of hunting, but increasingly they are prepared to accept some limited and tightly controlled hunts when they generate revenue for locals who might otherwise kill off the predators. "It seems counterintuitive that killing animals can be good for conservation," says Frank. "But trophy hunting is extremely lucrative, and in order to produce a few trophy males, it is a necessity to preserve vast ecosystems."

Lion hunting also provides revenue in Zambia, Zimbabwe and South Africa, though Kenya banned the practice in 1975. Most countries operate on a quota system. They estimate the lion population and set a sustainable quota for hunting. A study published this year by wildlife experts at the University of Minnesota has raised new interest in trophy hunting. Based on 40 years of data from northern Tanzania, the study showed that if hunters confined themselves to shooting male lions at least 5 years old, after they have bred and their cubs have matured, there's no noticeable long-term effect on the overall population. Researchers attribute this to the fact that male lions, while necessary for reproduction, do little to help raise their cubs. (Indeed, males typically kill the youngest cubs when they take over a pride.) Mature males also happen to be what trophy hunters prize, since a male's mane reaches its full glory after age 4. Lions 5 years or older can be identified by their noses, which are at least 50% black. Already the Tanzanian Wildlife Division and some professional hunters are advising clients to take aim at the older lions.



In essence, hunting places a value on wild game making it a resource of value to local populations. With no value, game is merely a worthless competitor for food, water and land. And it is the hunter who funds that resource, And the hunter who has the in preserving game in its natural habitat.

It is ironic that while hunters are vilified these days by erstwhile "animal rights" organizations, it is the hunter who stands as the ultimate conservationist. People like Teddy Roosevelt, who set aside millions of acres of land for wildlife habitat.


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And a good article from national Geographic:

Trophy Hunting Can Help African Conservation, Study Says

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070315-hunting-africa.html


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Good stuff Jim, thanks. Thanks for the links too Cunningham.


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Understand from Russell that SCI is engaged on the effort now. thumb


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I know I am being negative and I encourage everyone to keep writing, but what are the odds newsweek will even print the letter, and secondly whether it will be printed with the evidence that is provided. My other question is what do they require from thier other letter contributors?
 
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There is a study entitled Economic and Conservation signifigance of the trophy hunting industry in sub saharan Africa by P.A Lindsey from the University of Zimbabwe. It can be downloaded at Sciencedirect.com.

An excellent report with facts and figures to back it up.


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I know I am being negative and I encourage everyone to keep writing, but what are the odds newsweek will even print the letter, and secondly whether it will be printed with the evidence that is provided. My other question is what do they require from thier other letter contributors?


The letter was submitted, Newsweek responded that they intended to publish it, they provided Russell with a slightly edited version for him to approve, then asked to confirm the facts.

Here is the full text of their last email:

>From: "Lichtschein, Tilly" <tlicht@newsweek.com>
>To: "russell reese" <russell_reese@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Letter to the Editor
>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 17:35:04 -0400
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>Russell, we check the facts in all the letters we run. While I don't
>doubt their veracity, please provide verification for the following two
>statements. Thanks, Tilly
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>1) There is quite another story to be
>told of the billions of dollars infused into African economies such as
>that of Tanza­ nia by the legal hunting industry.
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>2) Species populations in Tanzania, Namibia and South Africa, for
>example, are much larger now than just a few decades ago.


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I am not sure it will add up to billions of dollars. It is certainly in the hundreds of millions, but most of these countries have a total revenue of only several billion dollars with actual exception of South Africa. One other thing that might be a valid point is practically all legal forward development in war torn Mozambique is connected to the hunting industry. It might make over two billion dollars. I know that several years ago that TP&W reported deer hunting was responsible for 1 billion dollars in revenue for the state.
 
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So, they fact check their letters to the editor but not their articles?????


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I am not sure it will add up to billions of dollars.


In Zimbabwe dollars it might be trillions.


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Here is a link to an article about hunting revenues in the SADC states:

http://www.africanconservation.org/dcforum/DCForumID5/388.html


The importance of the game industry to the economies of some countries is phenomenal, particularly when non- consumptive (i.e. wildlife viewing) and consumptive (sport hunting, licensed resident hunting) are taken into account. For example, in the latter 1990s, Zimbabwe raised some USD254 million through sport hunting, followed by South Africa at USD140 million and Tanzania at USD100 million (Barnes, 1996; ZTA, 2001). In some instances, this contributed significantly to the GDP of certain countries, for example, sport hunting revenue in Zimbabwe contributed some 8% to the country’s GDP (ZCSO, 2000). In some countries, this income is expected to increase in the near future, possibly even double, even in the absence of government grants (Bond, 1997).

With annual revenues of USD29.9 million in Tanzania, USD28.4 million in South Africa, USD23.9 million in Zimbabwe, USD12.6 million in Botswana and USD11.5 million in Namibia during the late 1990s, sport hunting is responsible for a large component of economic growth. Initially, most sport hunting revenue accrued to government and private landowners, however, more recently, an increasing proportion of such revenues has been apportioned between these two sectors and local communities.

The anticipated growth of the sport hunting industry relies on several factors, namely the diversity of species on offer, the quality of trophy animals available and the quality of professional hunters and associated tourism services (Jackson, 1995). In 2001, South Africa was the only country that offered the ‘big five’ - elephant, rhino, buffalo, lion and leopard – as huntable species, but Tanzania was regarded as the most scenically beautiful destination with record-winning lion, leopard and buffalo trophies. Alternatively, Namibia offered the most cost-effective hunting of plains game and some unique endemic species, while Botswana and Zimbabwe consistently supplied the best quality elephant trophies. Accordingly, each country had something unique to market to potential hunters from around the world.


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The importance of the game industry to the economies of some countries is phenomenal, particularly when non- consumptive (i.e. wildlife viewing) and consumptive (sport hunting, licensed resident hunting) are taken into account. For example, in the latter 1990s, Zimbabwe raised some USD254 million through sport hunting, followed by South Africa at USD140 million and Tanzania at USD100 million (Barnes, 1996; ZTA, 2001). In some instances, this contributed significantly to the GDP of certain countries, for example, sport hunting revenue in Zimbabwe contributed some 8% to the country’s GDP (ZCSO, 2000). In some countries, this income is expected to increase in the near future, possibly even double, even in the absence of government grants (Bond, 1997).

With annual revenues of USD29.9 million in Tanzania, USD28.4 million in South Africa, USD23.9 million in Zimbabwe, USD12.6 million in Botswana and USD11.5 million in Namibia during the late 1990s, sport hunting is responsible for a large component of economic growth. Initially, most sport hunting revenue accrued to government and private landowners, however, more recently, an increasing proportion of such revenues has been apportioned between these two sectors and local communities.


Add some of those annual revenues up and you get more than US$100 million so ten years revenues is greater than a billion dollars.


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According to a recent study, in the 23 African countries that allow sport hunting, 18,500 tourists pay over $200 million (U.S.) a year to hunt lions, leopards, elephants, warthogs, water buffalo, impala, and rhinos.



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So, they fact check their letters to the editor but not their articles?????


Yea, right. Something is out of whack.

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My understanding is that he did call SCI and they did not call him back. Not sure what to make of that.


My take on this would be that the credit would not be in their (SCi's) name, so avoid helping an individual (Mr Russel Reese) making a positive statement. Sort of territorial wouldn't you say!






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I raise my glass in a toast to Russell Reese, who had the drive and tenacity to write a left-leaning, green magazine and state the facts about trophy hunting in Africa and to point out the benefits to the country, its' residents and its' wildlife. To Russell... cheers!


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Thanks to loud-n-boomer and all of you that responded to his request. While I do not subscribe to Newsweek, this is the only way to get a "fair and balanced" statement to their readers.
 
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Thanks, on Russell's behalf, for all the great information provided by the posters above. Russell has compiled the information and shipped it off to Newsweek for them to review -- consistent with their rigorous editorial standards ( bull). If and when he hears back from them I will let everyone know.

Russell may not always be right, but he is never in doubt. This time he was right as well!


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Latest correspondence:

>From: "Lichtschein, Tilly" <tlicht@newsweek.com>
>To: "russell reese" <russell_reese@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Letter to the Editor
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:05:00 -0400
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>Russell, thanks for sending along the source material earlier. We had to
>change "billions" to "millions" because couldn't find corroboration for
>that high a figure. See sentence below am referring to.
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>There is
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>quite another story to be told of the billions
>of dollars infused into African economies
>such as that of Tanzania by the legal hunting
>industry.


Russell also wanted to note that he did end up getting some info from SCI.


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This would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. They take more time to vet the facts in a letter to the editor than they obviously took to vet an entire article spouting as fact that "hunters" were the ruination of Africa wildlife.

$200 million per year is just "millions" (not hundreds of millions) even over 10 years it is indeed billions.

But I digress. Good job, Russell!


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WTG Russell! You might try involving the Professional Hunters Associations of said countries. They have a dog in this fight. Let's see how many legs they stand on. PH's...can you help Russell verify some facts? Will you help?
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Perhaps David Hulme and Jimmy's story would help bend an ear at Newsweek?


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