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We love to see who did what where and when, and with whom! This goes for Outfitters, PH's and clients. I followed a couple of topics lately on the posting of pictures. Our gracious host Saeed and a few others are of the opinion that we should not hide the fact that we are hunters because we are doing nothing wrong. Rightly so. On the other hand we sit with clients that are being persecuted to no end by a uniformed and biased anti hunting community. These relentless attacks on their persona ends in trauma most of the time and a serious change in lifestyle. Lets face the facts shall we? Most hunters going on a Safari for a Leopard/Lion/Elephant spend in excess off $40,000.00 to do so. These are people that are known in their communities and I would wager to say 90% of those hunters worked very very hard to get to the financial position to be able to afford an adventure like that. For that person to have a purple haired tosser come and ruin his business, or standing in a community, it simply is not worth it. It's a sad situation of damned if you do and damned if you do'nt. So lets respect peoples wishes and have the client say his say as to whether his Outfitter can use his pictures on the internet or not. Lost of people do not care, lot of people do. Just respect the wish of the individual. Lets get used to funny faces or pictures of animals without hunters posing with them. Lets get used to "the War of the Flea" and slowly deprive the anti hunting fire of the "oxygen" it needs to thrive on. They can do nothing to people or "market" their hatred to the masses, if they do not have material and content. It is as simple as that folks. Any case, this is my thoughts on the issue. My very condensed SA and TZ hunting reports of a disastrous 2020 season is posted in the Hunt Reports section soon. I trust all of you are well my friends, and enjoying a fantastic festive season with your loved ones! Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | ||
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If clients don’t want to have their photo distributed with their animals then the outfitter needs to take photos of the animals with the PH and trackers, or with no one in the photo. Blurring or blocking the faces of anyone in a hunting photo gives the impression that we have something to hide AND it strengthens the antis by making them feel that we are running due to their persecution. Plus the blurred faces look terrible and detract from the photo. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Good morning Charl You have some valid points and most would agree. Many of my and my wife friends know that I hunt, so we get these snarky e-mails all the time. The Buzz and the elephants was the latest one, and after I or my wife providing the rest of the story or the story that I have obtained on here to the original sender. At that point they wonder why both sides of the story was not put forth in the original posting. Bottom line is it is all about the money generated for the original poster. We do need the congressional bill that President Trump is asking for concerning the protecting of the media giants on false articles that they allow to be posted on their web site and their fact checkers say it is true. If that is possible in the last few days of Trump while in office, that would be a huge win for sportsmen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You've got the strongest hand in the world. That's right. Your hand. The hand that marks the ballot. The hand that pulls the voting lever. Use it, will you" John Wayne | |||
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A difficult subject to discuss, for there will be clients who wish to remain anonymous and others who couldn't give a continental. Both are as proud of their hunting as anyone else. It comes down to individuality. I'm not in a position to be a client so to speak, and have not made the financial successes that would allow me to undertake my own 21 day, full bag safari. My opinion therefore is strictly that; it's my opinion. I understand only too well why some would not want their faces on pictures, for all and sundry. The world we know is undergoing a massive change, a change to wokeness. We all understand the word and the broadness it covers. It has been changing for a long time, and in fact we are ALL allowing this change to happen, before our very eyes. In days gone by, and I'm not intimating centuries either, we all endured and respected a word so seldom used in the modern era - DISCIPLINE. We knew the difference between right and wrong. We knew that actions had consequences, be it good or bad. We knew what accountability and responsibility meant. We knew what respect meant and honoured that tradition. It made us better people. Sadly we are a disappearing generation, and in a way we are aiding this disappearance. Again, my opinion, but by not standing up for our lifestyle (which we all know to be beneficial in many ways) we allow and feed the growth of wokeness. We permit the anti hunters, and all other anti establishments, anti discipline, anti rules and regulations, anti police.........I could go on.........to make their noise and to be heard, and to have things their way. We too easily give in to their tantrums, and they are winning. I sincerely believe we have to make a stand against this idiocy called wokeness. We can start by giving them all the middle finger and voicing our pride and commitment to do what we know is the right thing. What the hell gives an uneducated bafoon the right to tell me that what I do is wrong? We are not criminals, we don't break the laws, we have science behind us. My wife and I were running a hotel in Tanzania for the last 4 years, and had some great trophies in the reception area. You can believe the comments received by the woke crowd weren't too pleasing, and we ended up,by Director's instruction, to remove them. The amount of guests equally surprised at their removal was staggering, and far more than those who complained. Yet the hotel gave in to wokeness. This is why we are doomed unless we stand up for what we do. My opinion. To add to what I've posted above, I have just read an article about a resident in Minnesota receiving an anonymous letter from a neighbour complaining that his Christmas lights are not good for the neighbourhood, because not all residents can have them. It breaches the idea of "equal for all" Holy Shit!!!!!!! | |||
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Folks, Jason has the solution in a nutshell. Do take pix of the trophy but not with the client in the pix that are to be published. It's really that simple. Blurring the faces of the clients just distracts from some wonderfully formatted pix. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I totally agree with that Mark. Its why in my catalog I am in every darn photo  !!
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Once you have the Humane Society US trying to access your USFWS import permits as one of only 2 people living in Florida, you tend to drop below the radar. | |||
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Excellent post and point on... On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Arjun, You are very photogenic. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Well, I guess I think if one can't justify and defend what one does, or worse, if one is putatively or impliedly ashamed of doing it, then one should not do it in the first place. There's an old saying that if you don't want to read about it in tomorrow's newspaper (or these days, on the internet), then don't do it. I don't and will never feel that way about big game hunting. For my tastes, a hunter having his face blurred in a hunting photo is too much like a suspect covering his face during a perp walk or an arraignment. It's a tacit admission of guilt that I simply do not and will never feel. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I might be the odd one out here. I have no objections to my photo being shown with animals I have, or my friends have, shot. But, I tend to take lots of photos of the animals themselves, generally without people in them. I actually prefer these to the ones with people in them. Publishing photos with faces blurred out is just plain silly. | |||
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I am sensitive to the notion that some people are afraid they may lose their jobs if they publish, or allow to be published, photos of themselves with big game animals they have killed. But I would not want those jobs. All of my colleagues and clients know I am a big game hunter. In my office, I have two Cape buffalo head and shoulder mounts on the wall, a zebra rug on the floor, and a sable pedestal mount in the corner. So, there you go, and I’ve had no issues with anyone, other than people who want to know what they are and how I hunted and killed them. I'm sure there are some who have issues, but I think my being so upfront about it stifles their criticism, which is good for me and better for them! Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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And the thought that management of a hotel - in Tanzania for God's sake - would remove hunting trophies from its walls, because of uninformed criticism from select members of its clientele, nearly sickens me. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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This is utterly ridiculous! And should be made a crime! But, sadly we are going through a very simplistic phase right now. I read the other day a professor at a major UK university lost his job because he wrote an article 28 years ago, in which he said certain job women are not as good at as men!! | |||
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Dr. Walter Palmer, who I believe had his own practice, was adversely affected. The lion had a name, fellas! Mike Jines had threats lodged against him, as did Buzz, but tell me an outfitter that doesn’t get harassed. I personally don’t care if people come after me. I represent criminals and they damn sure don’t care. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Many hunters do not care about having their photos out there and I confirm that before posting. Photos of the PH etc are good alternatives. The thing is we are not doing anything illegal. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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While our sport may be conducted within the framework of the law, we are faced with a very large group of narrow-minded individuals who don't give a rat's ass if it is legal or not. This same group is very well armed and capable of socially destroying a person's image and character and quite frankly there are not many volunteers who want to take that risk except of course those whose status is untouchable. The social platforms on which these photos are publicized are just that, open to public viewing as there is no real protocol in place to separate the chaff from the wheat. | |||
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You both have said it very well. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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Damn! Wonder who those two are?  | |||
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It is fitting that an idiotic ebonic term, slang term, or just plain bad grammar (whatever you choose to call it) should personify this idiotic generational movement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Hear hear! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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+1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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+1 again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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To Juxtapose guilt of the activity and not posting photos is a bit of a stretch. I don't post photos simply because I don't want to. FB is full of anti-hunting shitweasels and folks whom simply look for controversy. I see not one single upside to our demographic that supports posting trophy pictures. It only inflames those who would rather see no Elephants or Lions than see us hunting them. When that is the nature of your enemy, all logic goes out the window and reasonable debate isn't possible. However, that ship has sailed. There are a multitude of solid reasons that supports not doing so. The good dentist probably wishes he hadn't. I have a business to think about, employees to think about. Children to think about, my families safety to consider. All for what? getting a few cool comments or "likes" on FB? There are many people whom (in my opinion) wouldn't even go hunting if they couldn't post pictures of their kills on Social Media. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Most hunt report photos here are nice, but I hate seeing bloody animals or tongues sticking out. Those seem to be mostly NA deer hunts. I believe DSC recently passed a rule saying that none of those will be featured in their publications. I don’t believe they ever published any, but they must have received a few. Not to be giving ammunition to the greenies, but the bloodied deer on the tailgate is not a good picture. I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills. Marcus Cady DRSS | |||
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I have no problem with my photo being published with an animal. If I have a problem with someone, they will get more than they bargained for. The last time I had a somewhat similar issue, I put PI's on the individual 24/7 and he ended up getting a six year prison sentence. He's out of prison now, but hasn't come back for more. Expensive, but worth it. | |||
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Lavaca, you’re a vindictive sumbitch. I LIKE IT!  | |||
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Good stuff ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Are you and "he who will not be named"  Really the only two in the entire state of Florida with a history of import permits?______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Well done! Only way to deal with them. We get quite a few visitors, and every now and then some utterly stupid nut comes along. A very famous English lady who is anti hunting arrived with friends. We have 3 lions facing the entrance to our house as you get in. As soon as she saw these, she said "Oh my GOD! Did you kill these?" I said "Yes I did. I hunt. I have been hunting all my life, and will hunt as long as I live. And let me make one thing absolutely clear. This is my house. And in our customs, guests are supposed to be grateful they are allowed in. I won't stand for any stupid lectures from anyone who is clueless about nature!" My friend's wife, who brought here, said "Don't argue with him. He will tell exactly what he thinks of you" End of argument! | |||
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Saeed, Great response. My situation had nothing to do with hunting, but I won't tolerate harassment. | |||
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Would love to have been a fly on that wall to see her reaction. Good for you. | |||
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I would love to put some on AR but it is complicated so I choose not to " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Thanks for the posting Charl! | |||
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That’s hilarious, I’d have paid to be there to witness that! Did she take her shoes off?  | |||
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Yep, THAT'S SAEED!   | |||
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The fortunate defect in the "woke" and "SJW" bunch is that they are impatient. It rarely takes more than a few days for them to find another victim to harass. Last year I received from a friend a copy of a Facebook page with a photo of my wife and I with an African animal. There were numerous hateful and threatening comments accompanying the FB post. I don't do FB or any other social media, and I had never seen that particular photo. The only conclusion was that it had been hacked from our PH's computer, and most likely at a convention. Fortunately, it was only a couple days before there was no more activity on that FB post. Companies and individuals who get attacked need only stand strong briefly, and the attack goes away. A case in point is FedEx. They were bombed with thousands of complaints about them transporting hunting trophies. There reply was that they would continue to transport anything that was legally transportable. Finis! I agree with Saeed's handling of the anti in his home. The few instances where someone does not like my taxidermy, I told them that this was my home. They could be civil, or they could leave NOW! Congrats to lavaca on putting a harasser in jail. A lack of punishment and accountability is what fuels much of this illegal activity. | |||
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What I have discovered is that all these utterly stupid idiots who have no life, and try to make sure everyone else is in the same boat as them, are not good at aruing back. Years ago I had an email from a supposedly "professor" in one of the universities in Australia. She turned out to be a perfect example of this. Apparently she was searching for articles on the black mamba, and somehow arrived at AR. She hit the roof! She wrote me a rather nasty letter, and being stupid, she had all her job details as her letter head, and she added a note that her email is private, and should not be shared with anyone. Well, SHE decided her email is private, I never did. I posted her message here on AR. Some of our members wrote to her head of the university. Someone found that she was not in the job she claimed to be. She wrote back an email telling off for sharing her email message. I wrote back and asked her if she was a professor of brainless idiots, as she assumed I will just comply with what she wanted, while she felt she had the right to question what I do. Never heard of her again. | |||
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I have spent my life finding ways to make a living without having to kiss any asses. I don’t care what people think of me and none of my income can be impacted by these clueless morons. I don’t care that my picture is on the internet but don’t do social media because it is a waste of time. If I get a snarky remark about having killed elephants they get a immediate and unpleasant (for them) reply. I’ve been hunting since I was 9 years old, my children hunt, my granddaughter is practicing with her .243 to kill her first deer. Any yes, I’m going to bloody her face as is the tradition here in Louisiana and don’t care what anybody else thinks about that. They will get the message and leave you alone. Good hunting Guys. BUTCH C'est Tout Bon (It is all good) | |||
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