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Only in Africa. Frederik Cocquyt I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good. | |||
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I guess putting a fence up would be out of the question? LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Looks like a good landing area...makes you wonder how they didn't see it. I don't have the details. Anyone know what happened? _______________________________ | |||
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Yukon, I don't have any first hand info on this, but there are several indacators in the picture that tells me some thing, after being in the aircarft business for 31 years, before retireing. It is evident the right wing hit the jiraffe in the neck about two feet below the head. This would indicate,to me, the plane was off the ground when impact occured. That and the fact that the wind sock is flowing back toward the accident, would indicate the was on take off, because of the shortness to the end of the strip. My forst thought was the jiraffe was on the side of the runway, and maybe in the trees so he wasn't seen. When he heard the plane getting near, he ran in the plane's path, and the pilot didn't have enough altitude to miss the jiraffe, nor enough speed to to make an evading maneuver, without stalling the plane. Of course that could be all wrong, as well!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I have a commercial pilots certificate, and a little experience flying. The second most frightened I have ever been in a plane was in the Okavango Delta. As we started our takeoff roll, every Lechwe within 200 yards decided to run to the airstrip. All of them ran on to the strip and ran beside the plane until we took off. The pilot acted like he didn't even see them. I looked over at him after we cleared the trees and he just smirked and said, "They always do that." | |||
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Now that's spooky, hitting a giraffe! | |||
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Looking at the inboard left wing for flap extension it looks like about as much flap, maybe 30 degrees? as you'd ever use for takeoff in what appears to be a Cessna 182. It's been a long time since I flew one but I have a couple of hundred hours in 182's (Out of 3000 plus on a multiengine ATP) and I don't remember any conditions calling for takeoff flaps over 20 degrees. | |||
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Good observation! He must have been landing. Unless the impact drove his knee into the flap lever ... | |||
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Now that's the way to start a story! So what is the first story? _______________________________ | |||
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I don't know which has more damage...the giraffe or the plane. Talk about your one shot stops...that giraffe is all wadded up. _______________________________ | |||
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Thats one time I'd rather be a steenbuck... | |||
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Well Mac & Wendell, I appreciate your take on this as experienced pilots. BUT even though I have no experience with aircraft whatsoever... this is the internet and I have watched a lot of conspiracy shows on cable. By looking at the way the corners have been removed from the piece of roofing tin, the guy with the white tee shirt is standing and how the door is open on the vehicle on the left... I think it's obvious that the plane is a decoy to attract personal injury lawyers. The giraffe is completely unrelated to the plane but has laid down in this spot to fake a suicide. Nice try to link the two but I don't buy it. Kyler ___________________________ www.boaring.com I'm so old that I still have some skills even without an internet connection or electricity. ___________________________ | |||
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My observation is it looks like giraffe head was into the prop and body into right wind. Most likely landing from position of flaps. Would have been much worse crash if plane was taking off. | |||
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You may be right, I didn't see that! The flap on the damaged wing is not even 20 degs but the wingsection is torn off the fuselage. this may have dammaged the servo motor, pulling it loose from the screw that controls the flaps, pulling it free allowing the flap to drop. The fuselage is also bent, and the horrisonal stabilizers are all bent up as well, and the main gear. There is a lot of damage to this airplane, and may be to the occupants as well, hope not!  I would dearly love to talk to the pilot! I've been in some very tight spots in Alaska with bush planes, and sometimes you need real iron pants for sure! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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I have friends that have died piloting small planes in Alaska...very unforgiving environment. The guys up here would love to see a landing strip like that compared to what they have to work with. That still puzzles me as the area is quite open. Like most accidents it is probably a combination of errors that caused it. I'm surprised that someone hasn't stepped up to claim responsibility. Surely one of us was in the area??? _______________________________ | |||
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I like Kyler's interpretation of the picture! You guys are getting way too technical. It's obvious! Someone should send this to Johnny Cochran or whatever his name is. Peter Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Yeah but who has power of attorney for the stink bull? He's not talking... _______________________________ | |||
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Flown a lot in Africa. This just demonstrates the natural camoflage of the giraffe. He'd be difficult to see against the brown background, particularly if the sun was directly overhead or close to it and there was little shadow. The flaps are in the landing position. Lucky they didn't center-punch it with the prop spinner. Could've ended up with additional fatalities. | |||
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A letter to Johnny Cochran will be difficult...he died (O.J. really didn't do this one!!!) a couple of years ago. | |||
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It there a trophy fee on this one? | |||
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Well Hell! Someone should take this case. Where is JudgeG when you need him? Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Actually this happened in Tanzania and it proves how dangerous it is chartering tourist hunters in the Tanzanian bush, so they are going to have to triple the charter fees for hazardous duty, and the government is going to add another $12,000.00 to each flight for cleaning up messes like this one.  Jerry Huffaker State, National and World Champion Taxidermist | |||
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That figgers... | |||
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From the flaps and the bend in the prop I'd say landing accident as it appears from the prop damage that it was a low power or power off prop strike. | |||
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I'm not a pilot but I think that the plane hit the giraffe. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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You never know maybe the giraffe hit the plane. You never know when one of those long necked suckers is going to come uncorked and start swatting planes out of the sky. | |||
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Didn't one of the "redneck" comedians do a bit about a plane hitting a deer? | |||
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Genius! I have a photo somewhere of a private plane that hit a deer with the prop...the deer will never play the piano again. _______________________________ | |||
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I wonder if a finishing round was need on the Cessna?  Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Looks like it was a one-crunch kill to me... | |||
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I think this goes to show giraffe are DBG! ~Ann   | |||
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