Oops with a plane and a giraffe

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31 August 2007, 21:11

yukon delta

Oops with a plane and a giraffe

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31 August 2007, 21:12

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31 August 2007, 21:14

L. David Keith

I guess putting a fence up would be out of the question? LDK

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31 August 2007, 21:35

yukon delta

Looks like a good landing area...makes you wonder how they didn't see it.

I don't have the details. Anyone know what happened?

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31 August 2007, 22:37

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by yukon delta:
Looks like a good landing area...makes you wonder how they didn't see it.

I don't have the details. Anyone know what happened?

Yukon, I don't have any first hand info on this, but there are several indacators in the picture that tells me some thing, after being in the aircarft business for 31 years, before retireing.

It is evident the right wing hit the jiraffe in the neck about two feet below the head. This would indicate,to me, the plane was off the ground when impact occured. That and the fact that the wind sock is flowing back toward the accident, would indicate the was on take off, because of the shortness to the end of the strip. My forst thought was the jiraffe was on the side of the runway, and maybe in the trees so he wasn't seen. When he heard the plane getting near, he ran in the plane's path, and the pilot didn't have enough altitude to miss the jiraffe, nor enough speed to to make an evading maneuver, without stalling the plane.

Of course that could be all wrong, as well!

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31 August 2007, 23:20

Wendell Reich

I have a commercial pilots certificate, and a little experience flying. The second most frightened I have ever been in a plane was in the Okavango Delta.

As we started our takeoff roll, every Lechwe within 200 yards decided to run to the airstrip. All of them ran on to the strip and ran beside the plane until we took off.

The pilot acted like he didn't even see them.

I looked over at him after we cleared the trees and he just smirked and said, "They always do that."

31 August 2007, 23:22

Use Enough Gun

Now that's spooky, hitting a giraffe!

31 August 2007, 23:52

stubbleduck47

Looking at the inboard left wing for flap extension it looks like about as much flap, maybe 30 degrees? as you'd ever use for takeoff in what appears to be a Cessna 182. It's been a long time since I flew one but I have a couple of hundred hours in 182's (Out of 3000 plus on a multiengine ATP) and I don't remember any conditions calling for takeoff flaps over 20 degrees.

01 September 2007, 00:16

Wendell Reich

Good observation! He must have been landing.

Unless the impact drove his knee into the flap lever ...

01 September 2007, 00:19

yukon delta

quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
The second most frightened I have ever been in a plane was in the Okavango Delta...

Now that's the way to start a story! So what is the first story?

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01 September 2007, 00:21

yukon delta

I don't know which has more damage...the giraffe or the plane. Talk about your one shot stops...that giraffe is all wadded up.

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01 September 2007, 00:54

darkside

Thats one time I'd rather be a steenbuck...

01 September 2007, 01:50

Kyler Hamann

Well Mac & Wendell,

I appreciate your take on this as experienced pilots. BUT even though I have no experience with aircraft whatsoever... this is the internet and I have watched a lot of conspiracy shows on cable.

By looking at the way the corners have been removed from the piece of roofing tin, the guy with the white tee shirt is standing and how the door is open on the vehicle on the left... I think it's obvious that the plane is a decoy to attract personal injury lawyers. The giraffe is completely unrelated to the plane but has laid down in this spot to fake a suicide.

Nice try to link the two but I don't buy it.

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01 September 2007, 02:50

hkyhunter

My observation is it looks like giraffe head was into the prop and body into right wind. Most likely landing from position of flaps. Would have been much worse crash if plane was taking off.

01 September 2007, 02:52

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by stubbleduck47:
Looking at the inboard left wing for flap extension it looks like about as much flap, maybe 30 degrees? as you'd ever use for takeoff in what appears to be a Cessna 182. It's been a long time since I flew one but I have a couple of hundred hours in 182's (Out of 3000 plus on a multiengine ATP) and I don't remember any conditions calling for takeoff flaps over 20 degrees.

You may be right, I didn't see that! The flap on the damaged wing is not even 20 degs but the wingsection is torn off the fuselage. this may have dammaged the servo motor, pulling it loose from the screw that controls the flaps, pulling it free allowing the flap to drop. The fuselage is also bent, and the horrisonal stabilizers are all bent up as well, and the main gear. There is a lot of damage to this airplane, and may be to the occupants as well, hope not!

I would dearly love to talk to the pilot! I've been in some very tight spots in Alaska with bush planes, and sometimes you need real iron pants for sure!

01 September 2007, 03:07

yukon delta

I have friends that have died piloting small planes in Alaska...very unforgiving environment. The guys up here would love to see a landing strip like that compared to what they have to work with.

That still puzzles me as the area is quite open. Like most accidents it is probably a combination of errors that caused it.

I'm surprised that someone hasn't stepped up to claim responsibility. Surely one of us was in the area???

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01 September 2007, 03:40

Peter

I like Kyler's interpretation of the picture! You guys are getting way too technical. It's obvious! Someone should send this to Johnny Cochran or whatever his name is.
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01 September 2007, 03:53

yukon delta

Yeah but who has power of attorney for the stink bull? He's not talking...

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01 September 2007, 04:55

jetdrvr

Flown a lot in Africa. This just demonstrates the natural camoflage of the giraffe. He'd be difficult to see against the brown background, particularly if the sun was directly overhead or close to it and there was little shadow.

The flaps are in the landing position. Lucky they didn't center-punch it with the prop spinner. Could've ended up with additional fatalities.

01 September 2007, 05:48

stubbleduck47

A letter to Johnny Cochran will be difficult...he died (O.J. really didn't do this one!!!) a couple of years ago.

01 September 2007, 05:57

Head Trauma

It there a trophy fee on this one?

01 September 2007, 06:16

Peter

Well Hell! Someone should take this case. Where is JudgeG when you need him?
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01 September 2007, 06:20

Jerry Huffaker

Actually this happened in Tanzania and it proves how dangerous it is chartering tourist hunters in the Tanzanian bush, so they are going to have to triple the charter fees for hazardous duty, and the government is going to add another $12,000.00 to each flight for cleaning up messes like this one.

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01 September 2007, 06:38

jetdrvr

That figgers...

01 September 2007, 07:15

surestrike

From the flaps and the bend in the prop I'd say landing accident as it appears from the prop damage that it was a low power or power off prop strike.

01 September 2007, 07:45

Fjold

I'm not a pilot but I think that the plane hit the giraffe.

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01 September 2007, 08:18

surestrike

quote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
I'm not a pilot but I think that the plane hit the giraffe.

You never know maybe the giraffe hit the plane.

You never know when one of those long necked suckers is going to come uncorked and start swatting planes out of the sky.

01 September 2007, 08:41

ElCaballero

Didn't one of the "redneck" comedians do a bit about a plane hitting a deer?

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01 September 2007, 09:19

yukon delta

quote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
I'm not a pilot but I think that the plane hit the giraffe.

Genius!

I have a photo somewhere of a private plane that hit a deer with the prop...the deer will never play the piano again.

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01 September 2007, 15:52

Rusty

I wonder if a finishing round was need on the Cessna?

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01 September 2007, 17:07

jetdrvr

Looks like it was a one-crunch kill to me...

01 September 2007, 17:40

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I think this goes to show giraffe are DBG!

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