This is the caliber that is an awesome cartridge that should be a factory chambering.It will fit in alot more guns than the 416 rem mag or the 416 Rigby.I think it could replace all the 416s as the favorite in a gun under $1000.

It will be my fourth Ruger Hawkeye! I love the .375 Ruger and will be the first in line to get the .416. Of course, it will have to be handloaded to bypass the junk bullets that Hornady puts in their factory ammo.

Yes. I have several Rugers in various calibers- from .17HMR to .375 and love them.

I will definitely get one.

Trophyman

Shhh, don't tell RIP, but I'll get one when they're produced...or even a .423!

I will absolutely buy a 416 Ruger, if they're produced commercially and based on the std length 375 Ruger, necked up.

That would be great and would also have the chance to surpass the 416 rem mag. in popularity!!

Not if they come out with the 404 Jeff..

No, I already have a .416 Rigby and I an not the slighest bit interested in shooting a high pressure load with a 400 grain bullet at 2300 to 2400 fps in a 7 3/4 pound rifle. The whole concept is flawed.

If you will recall the big knock on the .416 Remington was high pressure. I don't believe that was true but nevertheless, the .416 Remington began to fade in favor of the .416 Rigby. Now, not many guns are chambered for the .416 Remington anymore. All the high pressure complaints would be equally if not more true for the .416 Ruger and the fact that Ruger does not have a platform of appropriate weight to chamber it in makes it even less appealing.

Dave

Lefthand Please!!!!!!!!!!!

And if you ever find yourself with rifle but no ammo in Africa you are SOL.

I'll buy at least one.
Two would be probably be a smart idea, as I have to believe they will scarce for the first year of their existance.

Garrett

I don't understand why anyone would not want one. Afterall it is a Ruger and you cannot have too many. Wether you choose to take it hunting or not depends on many things that are all fun to find out. Dr.C

It will be awesome with 400's @ 2300 but hornady and the pixie dust factory will push it to 2400 no doubt. awesome powders that you cant buy and bad bullets



reload with premium bullets going 2300 will be the bees knees and like I have said before it be the best factory big bore cart since the 404 jeffery.

Can't imagine why I would buy one.

If I didn't have a Rigby, I would. But ... I am very impressed with the 350 gr Barnes X at 2700 fps (at better than an MOA) and see no need to replace it.

both the 375 ruger and a 416 would be ok but only if you handload(i do not). as long as Hornady is the only source for factory ammo( with their selection of mediocre- at best-bullets), no way would i buy this rifle.

...Oh Ya ,,, I,ll get one ...They could put an 18 " barrel on it and call it the Super Alaskan ,,As long as it,s coated stainless ....With the Alaskan,s express sights and enough drop in the cheek area to make useing the express sights easy .....Ya , I,de buy 2 .....mayby 3 ...I,ve had ,,,ah forget it ...

I won't buy it in a Ruger rifle but I might build a 416 Ruger. It's going to have to have a meaningful increase in case capacity over the 416 Taylor to really get my attention.

If the 416 Ruger has a case capacity at least mid-way between the Taylor and the 416 Remington, it should be a winner. With a little mojo, the Taylor can deliver 400 grains at 2400. That's all I require, but I'd like to get there without the mojo.

Not for me but it's always good to see some ideas and movement.

mstarling: point is that you would not be replacing that wonderful .416 Rigby you would be adding to it. I love the nostalgic nature of the Rigby and killed two buffalo this year w/ one and its performance is legendary but I think the Ruger round would be a fun "project". Christmas Cheers. Dr.C

No thanks. Great for the market to have choices, but I really so no need for it nor any advantage it offers as being useful to me.

One always has to bring out something new to keep sales up, but I see no advantage over my Taylor.

My 416 is a remington. The first one I had was a Ruger RSM with the original 24 inch barrel in the Rigby which was sold because it was quite heavy. (shoulda kept it) The .416 Rem. is a m70 African express which has been on three buff hunts, two of which occurred in verry hot weather. I live in the deep south and have practiced in 100 degree temps which are the same wherever you find them assuming similar humidity. No problems with either heat or temp related issues have occurred. I would buy a rifle in 404(423)Ruger in a heartbeat but don't see the need for another 416. JMO

I have allready added one to my gun cabinet. I am presently stocking my new 416 Ruger in a rather plain but really nice and hard old piece of real French walnut thats been taking up space in my shop since about 1954 or there abouts..It is on a mauser action with all the bells and whistes added..

I used a slightly modified military bottom metal with the original locking screws in place. Always liked that idea as the recoil can back out bottom metal screws and I respect old Paul Mausers ideas..

It feeds slicker n snot and I need to order dies, I fireformed some 375 Rugers in it so have a couple of cases to send to RCBS.

I really think it is a well designed case and pressure won't be excessive, that's just old repetitive gun crank talk. Pressure come form putting too much powder in a case, end of story and 2350 FPS is just as good as 2400 FPS IMO...

It won't replace my 416 Rem just add another gun to my collection unless I sell it, and I been thinking I would sell it as soon as its finished..I made one mistake on it, It should have been a .404 Ruger, Why? I have no clue, but the next one will be!

I though the 416 Ruger was close in capicity to the 416 Rem mag?I would like a shorter bolt through and smoother feeding.I have had problems with magazine springs in my model 700 Remingtons with my 416 rem mags.I fixed it by changing them to Weatherby springs which were ground down and put in by my gunsmith.I have a Model 70 in 416 Rem mag also.I want stainless and sites and Ruger Rings and a laminated stock and a good recoil pad.Thats not too much to ask for.

I have a .416 Remington in the Model 70 Safari Express that has served me well in Africa. I bought a .416 Rigby when my son suddenly decided he might go with me (he didn't because he had a daughter born the day we were to leave-grandpa went anyway) that I intended to shoot. Both rifles shoot lights out and I really have no reason to go for the Ruger, unless of course I can talk the son and a grandson into going for Buff, then I would have the perfect excuse, hey thanks for the idea, as if I needed help. I never argue with a really good reason to add another shooting stick to my collection. Good shooting.

NO!! It's just another marketing ploy to sell more hardware...where they make the money!! It's just like Copper River King Salmon out here in the Northwest...sells for $25-30/lb..."and it ain't no better than any other good-fresh Wild King Salmon" but people buy it in droves both at the market and in Restaurants!! It is just like the old Coors Beer thing when it wasn't pastuerized and not available in all states... we used to do military reserve training missions to Colorado Springs...and stop in the company jet for fuel...just to load up on Coors Beer!! Cheers

NO,

But I will re-barrel the 7mm Mag that I have sitting in the safe to whichever 40+ caliber Ruger legitimizes first.

A 40+ cal in a standard action? A lefty's dream!

WHY? aren't there are already 2 416's out there that will kill anything in Africa deader than dirt? what is with this incessant desire to reinvent the wheel? shorter action, longer action, higher pressure, lower pressure,2300fps vs. 2400 fps. somehow i doubt that the animal on the receiving end can tell whether he was hit with 4000ft.lbs or 3850 ft.lbs.. he is still screwed. i think it boils down to just looking for an excuse to buy another rifle( which is probably a good reason enough-need vs. desire).

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Gents,
Could this possibly be a sign that Ruger will do their new Hawkeye (hopefully left-handed), in 404 Jeff.?
This add appears at Midway.

Roger QSL

PS. Maybe it ain't gonna be a 416...
HO, Ho, Ho.... :Clap

Whether I need one or not, I like to follow my grandfathers rule concernng firearms...

"Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more"

I have tried to live by this rule on my income so I have lots of room available

SFC E7 (retired)

Would I be right in assuming the .416 Ruger would have very similar in case and powder capacity dimensions to the .416 Taylor (which although being a wildcat, seems very popular), minus the belt of course? Sounds like a pretty good design and idea for standard-length actions. It would be burning less powder than a Rem or Rigby, ie by being shorter and more efficient, burning less powder, also making rifles lighter, and reducing recoil, etc I would think?

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Originally posted by smarterthanu:
Lefthand Please!!!!!!!!!!!

I second that.

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Originally posted by Nzou:
Would I be right in assuming the .416 Ruger would have very similar in case and powder capacity dimensions to the .416 Taylor (which although being a wildcat, seems very popular), minus the belt of course? Sounds like a pretty good design and idea for standard-length actions. It would be burning less powder than a Rem or Rigby, ie by being shorter and more efficient, burning less powder, also making rifles lighter, and reducing recoil, etc I would think?

Nope, it would have a lot more capacity than the Taylor. It's not the Taylor case minus the belt, it's the Taylor case expanded to the belt diameter.

no, it is a rehash of others are already out there.

I already have a 416 Rigby and a .375 H&H, so it would be difficult, but probably not impossible to justify another dangerous game rifle. If I were to add one, I'd probably go .458 cal. at a minimum for an open sighted only stopper.

Not!!------------Have the 416 Rem and love it -- nuff said!
G

Nope! 4 elephants (one in the jungle) 4 buffalos,a red spanish deer and a sharp grysbok(not kidding) among others.That on my personal account. used to belong to my father which put down 4 elephants himself,15 buff,1 white rhino and another 4 put down by my uncle and friends.Not one problem. Why changing something that works so well, so long.

Doubt it.

I think my next rifle is going to be a Ruger RSM in .416 Rigby, although I am content with my 458wm

nope... after shooting the .416 taylor tip burns made for me, i'm happy... until he get through with my .416 rigby, that is....and i've still got the .416 rem mag crf m70 to fall back on...

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Originally posted by dgr416:
This is the caliber that is an awesome cartridge that should be a factory chambering.It will fit in alot more guns than the 416 rem mag or the 416 Rigby.I think it could replace all the 416s as the favorite in a gun under $1000.

Very nice rifle and round it would be but, nope; I'll stick with ole three/6-bits.

DB