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Originally posted by JPK:



BTW, was that the Protected Point or the standard round nose?

JPK

That is a standard 500 grain Woodleigh Weldcore RNSP, not the PP. Fired into the chest of a cape buffalo on a frontal shot from a .458 Lott at just under 2,300 fps.

If you want to maximize penetration on buffalo with Woodleigh soft points in the 458s, try the 550 grain soft. It can be loaded to 2,150 fps from the Lott and over 2,000 fps in the standard 458 Win. Maybe even a little more if your magazine and throat will allow you to seat it out. You will find substantially more penetration than withe 500 grain Woodleigh at higher velocities.



The soft point on the far right was recovered from a large buff bull shot at 125 yards from my Lott at 2,150 fps. It entered the quartering away buff at the front edge of the right ham, went through the stomach, diaphram. left lung, rib cage, left shoulder blade, shoulder meat and was found under the hide. It retained 74.9% of it's weight. Outstanding performance.

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Originally posted by 465H&H:
If you want to maximize penetration on buffalo with Woodleigh soft points in the 458s, try the 550 grain soft. It can be loaded to 2,150 fps from the Lott and over 2,000 fps in the standard 458 Win. Maybe even a little more if your magazine and throat will allow you to seat it out. You will find substantially more penetration than withe 500 grain Woodleigh at higher velocities.



The soft point on the far right was recovered from a large buff bull shot at 125 yards from my Lott at 2,150 fps. It entered the quartering away buff at the front edge of the right ham, went through the stomach, diaphram. left lung, rib cage, left shoulder blade, shoulder meat and was found under the hide. It retained 74.9% of it's weight. Outstanding performance.

I sound like a broken record but Taylor and the Penetration Index strike again!

sledghammer test[URL= ]a[/URL]458cal 500gr Barnes banded solid,500gr TSX,500gr TBBC,500gr A-Frame,550gr Woodleigh FMJ

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Originally posted by shootaway:
sledghammer test[URL= ]a[/URL]458cal 500gr Barnes banded solid,500gr TSX,500gr TBBC,500gr A-Frame,550gr Woodleigh FMJ

Quite the lineup there! Not all .458 caliber are they?
What was the test medium and impact velocity for each bullet, Sir?
Pretty meaningless unless we know more.

Hello RIP! An equal number of hits from the hammer.As you can see from the picture of the helmet this was not a fun test.I caught the Barnes Banded solid in the knee and almost broke it-my knee.[URL= ]a[/URL] All 458 caliber.The bullet toughness test is nearly complete.I'am still not decided on which bullet to go with for a cape buff hunt.The Barnes Banded solid was the toughest.A small chunk broke off and it was burning hot.I stocked up on 500 gr TSX bullets because I really like them.I did a search for past experiences with the Woodleigh FMJ and did not find much.I think that only bullet that will stay straight after a heavy impact is the Barnes Banded solid.The TSX is not far off for straightness.That hammer would sure bounce of the Barnes Banded solid.I also liked the toughness of the Woodleigh.It is a bullet that will give a bit but stay completely together after a severe pounding.

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Quite the lineup there! Not all .458 caliber are they?
What was the test medium and impact velocity for each bullet, Sir?
Pretty meaningless unless we know more.[/QUOTE]

And utterly meaningless now that we do. Unless of course there's a buff out there wearing a helmet and armed with a sledgehammer...

Sigh.

Mark

Ditto on the sigh.

Beware Mr Milkman/Postman shootaway is ready for you

The "Moron-a-Thon" was cancelled with Beavis & Butthead was it not??

RIP,
Next time use the hammer end of the axe!

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
RIP,
Next time use the hammer end of the axe!

Ray,
Your comment is about as assinine as shootaway.

I tried to cut down a tree with one of these. Didnt work either.

Hey where are ALF and Warrior??

They must have some pseudo-scientific commentary on the validity of projectile testing using the "Axe and Helmet" method??

Alf is not the right man to comment here. He deals in facts. The right man to give comment here is Warrior. How about a complete analysis of axe v sledge and weight of percussion tool v speed of swing. Dont forget to comment on the arc of visibility with the helmet pictured compared to those that you have used.

I was wanting to hear about the ALF-a-centauric interplanetary quadratic equation for calculating laminar flow and supercavitation dynamics on the leading edge of a Chinese made Axe head during the supersonic/subsonic gas/solid medium transition.