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11 August 2007, 01:40
WillFor the Teva Kool-Aid Drinkers
Well, for those so inclined I tried out the Keen sandals in Africa and they were okay except there are too many straps which catch too much trash and too much grass.
I also took my Tevas which are similar to these. Fewer straps and bindings mean less trash and less grass.
The natives have it right, go barefoot. The Tevas were as close to barefoot as I care to get. You couldn't pay me enough to wear boots again!
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11 August 2007, 01:53
dbltapI prefer the Keens with the toe covers. I suffer from Haole Toe big time when my toes are exposed.
11 August 2007, 02:02
Bill CI've been thinking about the Teva's, but I need a toe guard, like the newer Keen Newport H2 or the Venice which has one less strap. I have been doing a bit of hiking in the Newport's lately including some difficult (rocky) terrain. On trails or drainages they are good, but when off-trail in the grass or leaves they do pick up a good bit on junk. Nevertheless they will be coming with my Lowa's next time. [Aug 11 EDIT] Okay, just came back from the same ~4hr mtn/rock loop, and was much faster in the light-hiker Lowa's then the Keens with less drauma in the rocks...but I'm still talking them along if only for camp!
Good looking picture there Will!
11 August 2007, 02:04
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Lookin' KEEN man.... TeVa man, myself.
11 August 2007, 02:15
Bwana1Is that toenail polish??
11 August 2007, 02:22
dogcatFor an "old" guy, you are sure stylin' (as my kids would say).
11 August 2007, 02:44
Jim Manionquote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Is that toenail polish??
Nah. French pedicure.
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11 August 2007, 02:45
Michael RobinsonYou guys are nuts!
If you want to go back to basics, just use the hand carved tire tread models that are so popular with the locals.
I would no sooner wear sandals than a I would a turban.
But to each his own.
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11 August 2007, 02:51
kayakerKeen sandals catch and keep shit like stones very well in the footbed and are harder to get out - irritating.
Chacos with the vibram soles are great, been wearing them most days since 2002.
11 August 2007, 03:27
L. David KeithI'll keep my Bates Tacticals thank you. I'm not the flip-flop kinda guy
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11 August 2007, 04:18
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11 August 2007, 04:21
40-65quote:
Originally posted by L. David Keith:
I'll keep my Bates Tacticals thank you. I'm not the flip-flop kinda guy
Same here.
11 August 2007, 04:53
MARK H. YOUNGWill,
Sorry! I don't mind being called a weenie. I need some type of boots with a little ankle support. I saw an Appy who wore sandal every day get a debilitating infection from a thorn. It would be just my luck to get stuck on day one of a safari and not be able to hunt for most of the rest of my safari.
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TemboLa Dee Da!! Thank you, no sandals-EVER.
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11 August 2007, 06:03
David HulmeAll the PH's and the journalist at RWS have been through the sandal/rafter phase, and all have returned to the good old hunting boot. Of course, conditions and areas vary and it is much more comfortable to hunt the lowveld towards the year end in sandals. Given the choice, however, I would never go the sandal route in Chewore, no matter what time of the year.
Just my 2 cents.....
FYI, Ivan Carter, who posts on these forums, has hunted big game barefoot for as long as I can remember. This is not advisable though, and one would have to know the man to appreciate the underside of his feet.
Those tyre sandals referred to are known as 'magwadas' here in Zim. My brother's nickname amongst the locals is 'Magwada'. Can't think why, but believe it has something to do with a long and poorly paid hunting apprenticeship!!
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11 August 2007, 06:09
boom sticki have worn tevas since 1990...i have the keens with the toes covered...they are great and i like that i dont get my toes messed up like the tevas. the only advantage of the tevas is you can tighten them and losen them as you need traction and surety of step when it gets dangerous and when you need to losen them when your feet swell in the heat or tighten them if you are in cold water and they shrink and get slippery. i hike in them and would not be without them but if i am not doing dangetous stuff the keens are good.
the ones to use to keep the stickers and weeds out of is the crocks. they weigh nothing and are comfy
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ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by Will:
The natives have it right, go barefoot. The Tevas were as close to barefoot as I care to get. You couldn't pay me enough to wear boots again!
All the natives I have hunted with are happy to wear shoes even if they tend to look like sandals by that time.
However for not so hard core hunts I find the COURTENEY Adventures great.
11 August 2007, 06:24
Charles_Helmquote:
the ones to use to keep the stickers and weeds out of is the crocks. they weigh nothing and are comfy
Well, empirical evidence indicates that while you
can wear Crocs in Africa, their use is best relegated to around camp and in town...
Of course, maybe the "Off Road" style is tough enough, but I have my doubts. Where do they get these names?
I would rather wear Tevas than Crocs, but even in camp Tevas fill up with rocks and sand, and my feet are just not up to hunting in them. It also seems you are more likely to get stopped at police roadblocks if you wear Tevas and a T-Shirt...
11 August 2007, 06:37
surestrikeFag shoes.
11 August 2007, 06:40
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by surestrike:
Fag shoes.
Holding back like that isn't like you!
11 August 2007, 06:42
Willquote:
Originally posted by David Hulme:
I would never go the sandal route in Chewore, no matter what time of the year. Dave
Oh brother! I have hunted Chewore North mucho times in sandals. But a couple weeks is not full-time, either.
You guys are stuck in a rut!
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11 August 2007, 06:43
Willquote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
It also seems you are more likely to get stopped at police roadblocks if you wear Tevas and a T-Shirt...
Now that is a stretch!
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11 August 2007, 06:47
ozhunterAdd socks and you could be mistaken for a German tourist.
11 August 2007, 06:51
Wooly ESSMy old Dad once told me, "The only men who wear sandals are ___________ and ____________".
Words to live by!
11 August 2007, 06:56
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Will:
Now that is a stretch!
Must be because I left the socks off...
Seriously, when we drove in from Harare we were waved through all the roadblocks. On the way back to Harare we were stopped regularly and got to chat with the officers. Maybe it was my T-shirt that was the problem...or maybe it was because we drove back to Harare on a Sunday.
With them short britches, the sandals look " In Style!"
11 August 2007, 07:20
zimbabweI'm sure sandals are comfortable and I have had 2 PH's ,both GOOD friends, who hunt barefooted. I can't even go barefooted in my own home on the carpet much less in the wild. I wear custom Russels ( I know some don't like them) hunting and Vellies around camp. Wish I could wear sandals but I can't even tolerate flip flops in the shower. Bought Courtney Rafters for several friends in Zim and they really like them.
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11 August 2007, 07:26
David HulmeZimbabwe
Just want you to know that I stand firmly in the Russell camp with you
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11 August 2007, 07:27
Bill Cquote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:when we drove in from Harare we were waved through all the roadblocks. On the way back to Harare we were stopped regularly and got to chat with the officers. Maybe it was my T-shirt that was the problem...or maybe it was because we drove back to Harare on a Sunday.
Or maybe they were hoping to score some meat!
Surestrike, you are too funny. That ranks up there with the "dickhead" post.
11 August 2007, 07:32
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by Bill C:
Or maybe they were hoping to score some meat!
Well you could get logical and assume it had nothing to do with me...
I only recall one asking for meat, and one asking about firearms. Generally once they found out we were back from hunting they let us go on.
11 August 2007, 07:32
kayakerquote:
Add socks and you could be mistaken for a German tourist. Wink
I am not sure wearing sandals makes you soft or a 'fag'.
Fast and light...the way to go. Some terrain needs closed shoes for sure but sandals are great much of the time, heavy boots or combat boots? What combat you doing? White sweaty stinky soft feet?
11 August 2007, 07:53
AK HunterAfter wearing Tevas twice in Chewore and twice in the lowveld without issue, I was sold on them.
But when I tried them in the Central Highlands of Namibia, I needed more coverage. Far too much thorny and stickery brush at ground level.
Although the Tevas are my first choice, I will always take some light soft soled boots just in case.
11 August 2007, 07:56
surestrikeI'll bet you my next three pay checks that you wouldn't have caught John Wayne in a pair of them sandals.
Wearing sandals doesn't make you a fag it just makes you look like one.
That was joke. For all of you sensitive boys out there with limited sense of humor.
11 August 2007, 07:57
Magnum Hunter1Do they make those for men?
11 August 2007, 08:10
Bill CYep, this will be Will in a few years...
11 August 2007, 08:11
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11 August 2007, 08:26
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11 August 2007, 18:54
bwanamrmquote:
Yep, this will be Will in a few years...
Will,
Do you like gladiator movies?
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11 August 2007, 19:17
NitroXSandals are a good way in East Africa to get jiggers in the sides of your feet and soles.
At home in Summer I often wear sandals like Will posted ever day and hunt in them a lot and hate it when I have to put boots on.
11 August 2007, 19:40
Mike_DettorreBoy I am sure this will irritate some folks but wearing sandals or even thin canvas deck shoes is what I would have to classify as..."SUPER STUPID"
You run the risk of thorns, stickers, bug bites, small cuts from sharp little pebbles impacting your ability to walk plus any of those scratches getting infected and ruinning your hunt.
Walking in the bush in africa is no different than walking in woods in North America. How many of you would where sandals on a 5 mile walk in the woods?
What's even funnier is we have folks insist on controlled feed or double rifles for dangerous game for the percived infintecimal improvement in reliability but they are gonna where SANDALS and risk ruining there hunt.
I even think the whole shorts thing is "macho" bullshit and tradition is used as an excuse. Hey I where hiking shorts all the time when I know I am going to stay on the trail. But if I know I am going off the trail into the woods, I woould never where shorts. going of the trail i
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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
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