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Originally posted by Tracker49:

All I carry on my belt is an ammo pouch with 6 (at the most) cartridges. This is more than I have ever had to have. After all, how many animals are you going to get before going back to the truck?

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Originally posted by ozhunter:

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Originally posted by Tracker49:

All I carry on my belt is an ammo pouch with 6 (at the most) cartriges. This is more than I have ever had to have. Afterall, how many animals are you going to get before going back to the truck?

You obviously have not been amongst Elephant.
A wise man once told me "better to look AT them then for them.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Client not carrying enough ammo can be a problem. Most ele shot in self defence in one go that I know of is 17, over 3hrs as the hunting group tried to make it back from where they shot theuir first ele to the truck. As one can imagine, Parks didn't belive the story and I was sent from Sengwa to check up that the initial investigation by a group from Chizarira hadn't been bribed...

I have also burned through over 30 rounds one night trying to do a recovery on an elephant that a large pride of lions thought we should abandon to them.

Also if you get separated from the PH for any reason...Firing a few shots is an easy way to attract attention. I have 'lost' a client before today...and the tracker and game scout who were with the client lit another joint and had no idea where anything was...client had to get himself 'unlost' and back to the truck- and he could have done with more ammo than the five he had with him.

I typically carry 18rnds on my belt and 6 in the rifle (or 15 on the belt, two on the stock and two in the gun on my double). My tracker carries 20 spare. I like the client to carry at least 12 and the tracker to carry a spare box of ammo for his rifle.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Client not carrying enough ammo can be a problem. Most ele shot in self defence in one go that I know of is 17, over 3hrs as the hunting group tried to make it back from where they shot theuir first ele to the truck. As one can imagine, Parks didn't belive the story and I was sent from Sengwa to check up that the initial investigation by a group from Chizarira hadn't been bribed...

I have also burned through over 30 rounds one night trying to do a recovery on an elephant that a large pride of lions thought we should abandon to them.

Also if you get separated from the PH for any reason...Firing a few shots is an easy way to attract attention. I have 'lost' a client before today...and the tracker and game scout who were with the client lit another joint and had no idea where anything was...client had to get himself 'unlost' and back to the truck- and he could have done with more ammo than the five he had with him.

I typically carry 18rnds on my belt and 6 in the rifle (or 15 on the belt, two on the stock and two in the gun on my double). My tracker carries 20 spare. I like the client to carry at least 12 and the tracker to carry a spare box of ammo for his rifle.

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Also if you get separated from the PH for any reason...Firing a few shots is an easy way to attract attention. I have 'lost' a client before today...and the tracker and game scout who were with the client lit another joint and had no idea where anything was...client had to get himself 'unlost' and back to the truck- and he could have done with more ammo than the five he had with him.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
What do you take if you are walking 15 miles and no truck or Kawasaki 750 or the trailer? Or if you have no trackers & are limited to just one companion / PH???

Chapstick & eye drops was a good addition BTW.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Client not carrying enough ammo can be a problem. Most ele shot in self defence in one go that I know of is 17, over 3hrs as the hunting group tried to make it back from where they shot theuir first ele to the truck. As one can imagine, Parks didn't belive the story and I was sent from Sengwa to check up that the initial investigation by a group from Chizarira hadn't been bribed...

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
All the details...They are in a report at the archives by now! '93 or '94. Party had gone in to shoot a cow. Very few areas at the time had cows on quota and tuskless only became available in '96. However the council had applied for a limied number of cows to be shot at 1 month intervals to keep the breeding herds away, and parks had agreed.

Of course, this was 'exportable' and one of Zim's quota of 400 at the time, so there was every incentive to shoot a big cow. This was the first hunt of the season and the first time in nearly 10 years we had put cows on quota. After a lot of lookin they identifed a big cow, with good ivory (nearly 30lbs a side)Which they precedded to shoot. Unfortunaely the herd was about 300 strong and went absolutly bezerk. The hunting party consisted of PH, Client, two trackers, two lads carrying water etc a council scout and a national parks game scout from Chizarira.

The elphants attacked as soon as the matriach went down , and two were shot almost immediately. The game scout fired several warning shots from His FN (the council scout was unarmed) and the group ran for it. The elephants followed. More warning shots were fired, bullets were put through ears...and after about an hour and 5km the PH put a third one down. By now the parks scout was running low and instructed the PH to shoot any elephant that closed within 10m of he group. They pushed on as fast as the client could stand until they reached a cliff, which they climbed. and proceeded along at a more leassurely rate. After about half an hour of peace and quiet walking the elephants caught up with them again and the PH and client shot 6- all within 10 of there the group had assembled when the first cow had charged. They pushed on shooting the odd one as was necesary until they reached the truck and got the heck out of the area. They drove directly to the parks station at Chiz and reported. The PH nore the client knew how many they had actually shot- it could well have been more but there were 17 boddies. 11 of which were tuskless cows.

PS - I Didn't see the PH or client. I only arrived late that day after beeing sent in by HQ. Have seen the PH occasionaly since but never really discussed it- how low did they get on ammo etc. I know he lurks occasionaly here so he may chip in with the 'correct' details.

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The PH nore the client knew how many they had actually shot- it could well have been more but there were 17 boddies. 11 of which were tuskless cows.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
All the details...They are in a report at the archives by now! '93 or '94. Party had gone in to shoot a cow. Very few areas at the time had cows on quota and tuskless only became available in '96. However the council had applied for a limied number of cows to be shot at 1 month intervals to keep the breeding herds away, and parks had agreed.

Of course, this was 'exportable' and one of Zim's quota of 400 at the time, so there was every incentive to shoot a big cow. This was the first hunt of the season and the first time in nearly 10 years we had put cows on quota. After a lot of lookin they identifed a big cow, with good ivory (nearly 30lbs a side)Which they precedded to shoot. Unfortunaely the herd was about 300 strong and went absolutly bezerk. The hunting party consisted of PH, Client, two trackers, two lads carrying water etc a council scout and a national parks game scout from Chizarira.

The elphants attacked as soon as the matriach went down , and two were shot almost immediately. The game scout fired several warning shots from His FN (the council scout was unarmed) and the group ran for it. The elephants followed. More warning shots were fired, bullets were put through ears...and after about an hour and 5km the PH put a third o I know he lurks occasionaly here so he may chip in with the 'correct' details.