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Good read gentlemen and some very good info In the end though, world runs on fuel(taxes) and its running on low What say you gentlemen when world runs out of fuel( money)? That is the question of the day and then the virus don’t matter no more " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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My understanding of the nasal test is that it is highly subject to who is doing the test and the physiology of the person who has the virus. Probably not any different than any other disease or medical condition. | |||
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………………………...…...… right! When only a count of just short of ONE BILLION deaths world wide shouldn't mean this bug is catching! …………………...……………......………………………......…………...………………...……….  …………………………......……………...………………………………...…………..  MacD37....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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The private practice I retired out of 5 years ago likely won't survive this. The three "major" hospitals in Anchorage have been below 50% census for months when normally two out of three are on divert from lack of beds. That does not bode well for the least solvent of those three. I'm libertarian, 66 and in excellent health. If I contract COVID and end up dead so be it. I'm not licking toilet seats but I'm also not becoming a hermit in a state with 404 cases to date and 10 deaths. Good luck all. It's your life, your choices. Also remember the "panic porn" on the endless main stream media loop is not the best place to get your information. Try to track that information to the actual source and that is difficult. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Hello Everyone, I am the OP of this post. I thought that I would share some recent information with you regarding my original post. So to add another head-scratcher into the mix I got the results on my blood/antibody test...and it is NEGATIVE for CV! So to reiterate, I lived with 2 conformed positive people in a small house for 2 solid weeks and I tested negative for cv. Now 2 months later the antibody test shows negative... I think that this goes to show how much we/doctors DO NOT KNOW about this virus. How is it that I did not, as the antibody test shows, contract the virus?? Time to open the World up for business | |||
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Anyone in the 'high risk' group should be very careful, consider their options and make informed decisions. No question. Not belittling these folks at all. But an entire society deciding to "lock down" for months? We have never done this before. So when all the facts are known, how about if we wind up killing more people via: Not going to hospital/ER when really NEEDING to? Skipping cancer screenings? Skipping vaccinations? Let's not forget alcohol abuse, drug abuse, child abuse (kids going to school is the #1 way we find out they're being abused), spousal abuse, etc. that are happening due to keeping people locked in a small space, under stress when they have lost a job, etc. I feel that "One of the biggest overreactions in history" will be an understatement. | |||
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Me too. It is definitely something that is real and not a hoax, as some people have said, but in my opinion, a HUGE OVERREACTION. We closed down the entire world for high risk people | |||
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As I stated earlier I am skeptical of the diagnosis of your son. I would bet money the antigen test on your son was wrong. It would be very interesting in he and his girlfriend got antibody tested. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I agree Doc. He is on the list for the test | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Just to add a couple of medical points. In mid March I thought the rate of death of infected would be 4/1000. A bit worse than flu. Turns out it’s about that but some mutations are worse ie Italy, vs Wuhan, etc. NYC was a mixture. If we had not shut down the number of deaths would have been a lot higher and more hospitals would have been overwhelmed as in NYC or Italy. Some tests were less accurate ie rapid test PCR. We found 14% false negative vs longer PCR test. Virus particles can persist in blood for upto 6 weeks but people appear not be transmitting after 2 weeks, hence we allowed staff back to hospital. Finding many asymptomatic CoV positive on routine testing PCR. In NYC it’s 21%. As far as antibody test, very poor accuracy and don’t make decisions on the basis of results. Immunity time is unknown. Common cold CoV 6 months. SARS 1 2-3 years but vaccine never worked and in fact had hyper response in vaccinated animals. Don’t expect a good vaccine for 1 -2 years. MERS, camel sourced CoV, as with SARS one was fortunately contained but 45% of infected with MERS died. Yes Alto many are in contact with positive people but don’t get it. Eg Blood group O protects. We are expecting a second wave if social distancing drops below about 55% but the models differ. For Spanish flu, the second wave had many more deaths. But hospitals should be better prepared but could still be overwhelmed if people go crazy and keep close contact, no hand hygiene, and are in areas of a lot of droplets eg planes, concerts, bars etc. as far as masks, limited effectively. Just like flu, even though it’s a bit worse, we ll learn to live with it. Or HIV. The shutdown has probably caused about 120,000 deaths not from CoV. People are not getting treated for strokes, heart attacks, and cancer (the last two kill 600,000 per year) and also the economic shutdown has increased deaths from societal problems. Hospitals are seeing both. In the big picture, we have to get society, economies, industry, and regular hospital etc going again, since toll will be worse than CoV in deaths. | |||
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I remember the shut down being sold to us as necessary to "flatten the curve" of infections to avoid overwhelming medical facilities. I saw in the newspaper a few days ago that one of our big medical providers/hospital systems was laying off 1500 people. They aren't needed as nobody is going to the hospitals. I think we flattened the hell out of that curve. kh | |||
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They are laying off people because we have not been able to perform elective procedures and millions of patients have not been able to have their preventative care or elective or semi- elective procedures. We are only now beginning to be able to perform those procedures. This has been devastating for the health care industry. The UNC system where I work will likely be down $250 million for the year. This despite government stimulus. Kodiak 2022 Namibia 2019 Namibia 2018 South Africa 2017 Alaska Brown Bear 2016 South Africa, 2016 Zimbabwe 2014 South Africa 2013 Australia 2011 Alberta 2009 Namibia 2007 Alberta 2006 | |||
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Haven't heard the word "Coronavirus" since the riots started...Hmmm Tens of thousands of people in hordes of humanity seem to have forgotten about "social distancing" and using hand sanitizers. Time to end this nonsense | |||
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Alfredo, please do let us know if your son has the Covid-19 antibody when you find out. Corona virus was among the common cold viruses when I was in med school over 40 years ago. Some natural mutation and/or artificial manipulation by the Chinese has occurred, and we humans might need to mutate too. It has already occurred in the wrong direction for humans, just look at the U.S. Dimwitcratic Party. The human species can do better than that, surely. Non Illegitimi Carborundum | |||
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