...dont want to start a new contest - just as an update...

http://www.clashradio.com/DVD/sullivan-video/

Oh, that won't start anything...

Kyler

"death with honor"

Honor among Hippos ???????

I was giving him the benefit of the dought but that statement is beyond assinine!!

Either he or his marketing department are idiots.

I guess it sells videos.

I dunno....

While I have never squeezed the trigger on DG (all PG hunting since my teens) I have spent quite a bit of time working, guiding and playing around dangerous game/big 5 (including two of my rafting clients getting attacked on the water by a hippo - thats another story!).

Having seen a few of his vids, I just feel uneasy about them, like its just too showy. Kind of like the 'Amazing Vegas Side Show' of hunting.

Guys I have worked with/for with substantial DG experience all seem to relate stories of many dead buff/ele/hippo with one or two shots and charges, while happening on rare occasions, are an exception (I think Saeed wrote he has yet to fully charged in over 100 buff?).

Sure, they have stories of 'narrow escapes' and wanting to wear their brown corduroys at times but its usually seems to be undertaken with less 'fanfare' than MS puts on most of the time. The same seems true for trail guiding, If I was severely charged everytime I guided a walking trail, back when I was, I would feel I was a doing something wrong and needed to sharpen up.

I have no-doubt the guy is crack shot with a double and knows anatomy but it just isn't for me! I feel much of it is done purposefully. The famous last charge in black death, I feel could have been prevented as soon as he walked up to the downed buff, with a bullet between the shoulder blades as it lay facing away from him. He seemed to wait purposefully for it to charge?

The blurb below his video, posted in this forum just seems like its dripping with cheeziness, get that feeling?


Some love it, I don't really get it.Perhaps I am wrong? Just my 0.02!
Cheers.

I did notice that MS is offering leathercraft products now.

Said he had to design and craft his shell carriers himself because none others were fit for use. Now he is making them available to us for a slightly premium price.

Wonder if each work of leather art is signed by MS, and where MS picked up his leathercraft skills? Does he do license plates too? Nitro Express vanity plates handstamped by MS could add to the bottom line too. (No offense meant to the fine folks at Galco and Murray. It's a joke.)

Riodot: Honor among hippos. That is rich.

So how many animals did he wound in that short film before he gave them "Honor".

I thought we all hope for a quick clean kill. Guess that SOB, likes to wound them first, and make there pain go on longer. I hope he misses one of these days and gets whats coming to him.

Overheard at Reno SCI, while I was in front of his booth. Spoken by a well traveled sportsman to Mark "The only one of your video's I'll ever buy is the last one!"

"The only one of your video's I'll ever buy is the last one"

PRICELESS!!!!!!

Regardless of what anyone may think about how the footage was obtained, it looks like there are some pretty good charges there.

Hi, I'm Mark Sullivan. I invite you to come and experience the wilds of Africa, it's people and its dangerous game. Feel the rush as you are charged by members of the famed "Big Five", and worship me as I shoot them for you. My tapes and other goods will be for sale upon your departure.

Good Shooting (Mine),

Mark "We'll Let The Animal Decide" Sullivan

P.S. If you wear your knife on the back of your belt, pointed straight down your ass crack, and sling your bino's across your chest, you are an instant member of the "God Complex" club.

WHAT A F@#KING TOOL!!!!!!!!!!

BOWHUNR

Ok OK so you disagree with the way the man hunts or shoots or kills or however you want to put it, but riddle me this... when the buffalo or hippo (often unwounded for the hippo) is within yards, running and Mark does not move his feet as he brains them and in some scenes you can see him readjust his grip on the gun while the animal is within just a few yards, there is no way you can tell me the man does not have a clarity that only a few could possibly understand or achieve. M<ost of us, and I put myself in the group too, would be shitting our pants closing our eyes, yanking the triogger and waiting for the impact, hoping to god our PH is a better shot than we are. Yes I understand most hunters and ph's would have killed the thing long before it got to this point, but for those few seconds, its all real, and a not so pleasant outcome is quite possible. He is a showman and quite full of himself, but his ability to get the job done at close quarters time and time again is impressive.

_BB

I don't know what is worse, hunting with Mark Sullivan or donating to PETA.

Both stand against everything I have imagined hunting to be.

While in the minority on this forum, I bought the DVD and look forward to watching it.

Saeed hit the nail on the head.

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Originally posted by Tembo:
Saeed hit the nail on the head.

I'll second the motion! Motion carried!

It is guys like this retard that gives PETA fuel and support for their fight against hunting.

Thanks a F**king lot, a$$hole.

The only comfort is that if he keeps doing this, sooner or later the poor abused animal is going to kill him.

I just hope the dupe he has with him doesn't get it, too.

I'm waiting for him to purposely wound a leopard, then wade in.
I didn't think so.

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Originally posted by Don_G:
The only comfort is that if he keeps doing this, sooner or later the poor abused animal is going to kill him.

I just hope the dupe he has with him doesn't get it, too.

I am afraid that is NOT likely to happen the way he operates.

Any time a buffalo he wounds on purpose goes into long grass, he wimps out and goes after it standing in the back of his truck!

Well, the best intentions..... Never hunted with Mark sullivan, but I know someone who has and on more than one occassion. He speaks highly of the man, to the point that he says is the hardest working, most motivated PH he's hunted with. Matter of fact, he's even on two of Mark's videos.

I'm not 100% on board with some of the tactics used in the video, but I understand the motives behind them, that is to SELL videos and that they have.

But here's my issue with some of the posts here. Unless you've hunted with the man, or have irrefutable, first hand knowledge of all the garbage and inuendos associated with his supposed "wounding tactics" I don't think it's fair t vilify the man in such fashion. jorge

quote:

Originally posted by BaxterB:
Ok OK so you disagree with the way the man hunts or shoots or kills or however you want to put it, but riddle me this... when the buffalo or hippo (often unwounded for the hippo) is within yards, running and Mark does not move his feet as he brains them and in some scenes you can see him readjust his grip on the gun while the animal is within just a few yards, there is no way you can tell me the man does not have a clarity that only a few could possibly understand or achieve. M<ost of us, and I put myself in the group too, would be shitting our pants closing our eyes, yanking the triogger and waiting for the impact, hoping to god our PH is a better shot than we are. Yes I understand most hunters and ph's would have killed the thing long before it got to this point, but for those few seconds, its all real, and a not so pleasant outcome is quite possible. He is a showman and quite full of himself, but his ability to get the job done at close quarters time and time again is impressive.

_BB

He wouldn't get into the fcking problems if he did not wound them in the first place. HE WOUNDS ANIMALS JUST TO GIVE THEM FCKING "HONOR". MS PISSES ME OFF.

I don't want to get good at having to deal with charging animals. Do you know why??

It's because I want to make my first shot perfect so they drop in there tracks or close to it.

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if he did not wound them in the first place

Do you think he or his client makes the first shot?

So what? What difference does it make who took the first shot? No matter how or who caused an animal to become wounded, it does not excuse antagonizing that animal into a charge.

I can't believe that anyone here would or could condone the actions that are being conducted to provoke all of these charges, whatever these actions are. The facts are that someone IS doing something to provoke this many charges, and no matter what it is, it CANNOT BE RIGHT!!

If I found that I knew anyone or had a friend that supported this, I personnally would disassociate myself with them.

Saeed,

You may be right about MS using the bakkie in the long grass - I don't know.

I've just been around the world long enough to think that "what goes around comes around". Someday MS will reap what he sows. The details are not necessarily within my understanding.