The Simple Truth about Peter Als Nerving and Taksdale Gun & Rifle.

It is not productive to describe all the details in this post, however, if Peter Als Nerving (aka Peterdk) of "Taksdale Gun & Rifle" would like to appear on here and dispute these claims he is welcome to do so. Simply said, here are the facts.


• He has presented himself as a London trained gun maker (Rigby of London) and capable of building box lock and full sidelock double rifles. It appears he did work for or with Rigby’s for some period of time but the circumstances surrounding his departure are inauspicious and cloudy.

• He has taken deposits from many well known AR members for his new double rifles that he claims to be making. This is easily proven by wire transfers to his Danish account. However, he has yet to produce evidence in the form of photos of the individual firearms, serial numbers, or having built any actual guns - save the prototype; despite the fact that the contracted date(s) of completion/delivery of the double rifles were months ago.

• One of these double rifles had been commissioned as a gift for a friend and colleague of AR, Professional Hunter John Greeff, who if you recall was injured last year in Tanzania by a leopard and lost his right eye requiring him to shoot left handed and needing a new rifle.

• Those of us who have sent deposits for double rifles have made numerous efforts to contact Peter Als Nerving through email, text, all phone numbers, and SKYPE. These were very rarely, if ever answered. He has refused to return calls or engage in discussion of any kind with his double rifle customers since, to my knowledge, the 27th of May. He has claimed starting last year that his son has Leukemia, recently that he has a short time to live himself, etc. All this serves to confuse and distract his victims. AR members have now connected with each other and compared the many emails and stories from Peter Als Nerving, especially those regarding his various excuses and claims of his or his family’s terminal illnesses. These stories are inconsistent at best.

• All had hopes that Peter would eventually come through and complete these guns he has been paid for but his complete lack of communication and recent feedback from those that know him in his region leave all of us with no alternative but to assume that he is a con man and deliberately set out to take deposits and abscond with the funds.


• Peter Als Nerving (aka Peterdk) should be avoided at all costs.



With sincerity,
Nemo.

This should be posted in the main African hunting forum area as well.

What a P.O.S. scumbag!!

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Originally posted by Nemo .450:...recently that he has a short time to live himself

Not short enough!! Common thief!!

Nemo, this just in, Peter d'crook may now be here in the US working for Jeff Blair at Blair Worldwide Hunting!

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by Nemo .450:...recently that he has a short time to live himself

Not short enough!! Common thief!!

Nemo, this just in, Peter d'crook may now be here in the US working for Jeff Blair at Blair Worldwide Hunting!

I wouldn't be supprised, Don.

Would not it be poetic justice if someday, Blair commissioned a double rifle in exchange for a hunt. . .

Well written and more than fair to a person who stole a great deal of money from a dozen trusting souls including a few, like you, a young man who could least afford such a loss and a gentleman who needed such a tool to support himself and his family.
Don's suggestion is good but I'll settle for a refund or a long stay for him in prison.

NitroX,NOW what do you need??

For the sake of clarity, can we see a list of affected AR members, what they ordered (and/or what they were promised), the contract schedules, and the dollar amounts that are outstanding?

Also, has anyone contacted the authorities local to PeterDK to see if he is indeed still among the living or has anyone paid a visit to him to confirm that he is still at his farm?

He's alive and fine and trawling other sites for other honest, trusting people from whom to steal.
I'm one one in for $4,750.00 USD.

And as far as a.tinkerer's other, good questions, I will only say that some were supposed to have been completed and delivered in mid to late 2010 others since.

None have even been started. No photos. No serial numbers. No contact with confirmation of progress or completion.

Yes each involved individual has a contract with completion and delivery dates.

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
He's alive and fine and trawling other sites for other honest, trusting people from whom to steal.
I'm one one in for $4,750.00 USD.

Doc, you should have bought another Verney-Carron. We know where Ken lives!

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
He's alive and fine and trawling other sites for other honest, trusting people from whom to steal.
I'm one one in for $4,750.00 USD.

Doc, you should have bought another Verney-Carron. We know where Ken lives!

Damn straight, Don.

That's why I'm getting that 450/400. It's Ken and his reputation along with that of Verney-Carron and my own experience with both that gives me security after this debacle.

I had been talking to Peter about a 450 no2, We got to a point where he just came out and asked for a deposit. I told him that I was not comfortable doing so until I saw one in the hands of somebody, Never heard from him again, Cane Rat, same story.

Steve

Hello,

Am I missing something ?
It seems like a straight forward case of Fraud and breech of contract.
Does Interpol not handle this, with aide of the Danish authorities ?

It would seem that for the amounts concerned the US State department might get involved.

Nitro

Having the authorities handle something like this is a long aggravating process. I got scammed by someone in NZ. It took well over and year and 100 hours of my time to get the authorities to act.

While not a firearms purchase, I had a similar dispute CONUS. If you value your time, you will most likely just walk away. If you want justice done, be prepared to devote significant amounts of time into this endeavor each week for a very long time. After ~$100 in postage, untold amounts in phone calls to various agencies, and about 10 hours a week for almost a year, I finally got a resolution which resulted in restituition of less than $1500.

makes a guy realize why those people who provide services of broken bones etc exist

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Originally posted by butchloc:
makes a guy realize why those people who provide services of broken bones etc exist

Now you're talking!!

Guys, I'm sitting on the computer at the Southern Sun in Maputo, Mozambique at the moment, nice view! I too ordered a rifle from Peter, it was to be delivered to me in January! No gun, but Peter has my money I wired to him on Sept. 23rd, 2010.

Only 10 months and build not yet started? You were assured delivery in writing on your contract when? Regular updates? Any reasonable explanations? Any explanation at all?

Yes Doc, not complicated he is a P.O.S. crook!

Peter d'crook (with lots of) Nerv (ing)!

Don,
What say you and I get on a plane and go pay a visit to Mr. Nerving? Sort of make him an offer he can't refuse!

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Originally posted by ron vella:
Don,
What say you and I get on a plane and go pay a visit to Mr. Nerving? Sort of make him an offer he can't refuse!

I'm In!!

I have been disturbed by this for the last couple of days, and can no longer not say something about it. Nemo and Doc, and others that have been taken to the cleaners, I feel for you. I have always consider shooters and gun folks the best there is, and I really do not have any real friends that are not involved in shooting one way or the other. Something like this seems rare to me.

Surprised? In a way no. While I am not into Peter for a rifle thank goodness, I did send him a $1000 worth of those copper bullets Sam and I had made for his 12 bore doubles. I figured to see what sort of chap he was, I suppose we know now eh. I will say I did this of my own accord, he did say he was in a bind at that point, I told him pay me when he could, so just as much on me as anyone I suppose. It is what it is.

What is far worse, and something I can never understand is how anyone can jeopardize their reputation for ANYTHING, much less dirty paper, or money. I do not understand that. We come into the world butt ass naked, and nothing more than our Word, our reputation which has to be built over time. To sacrifice ones reputation, for paper is just incredible. What do we have without our reputation? How do we look at ourselves from that point on?

Even if one does fall on hard times, then say so, and work yourself out of the hole, and meet your obligations. I have always had a particular little saying along these lines--- Say what you mean, and mean what you say! Probably a bit cliche, but if your mouth overloads your abilities, then you must meet your obligations, do what you say you will do, and if you cannot do so, then sort it out with the folks you are obligated to.

These things follow folks like this, and one can never shake loose of it. I suppose some just could care less, and that's another part of deals like this I do not comprehend. It's a small world, it catches up.

All we have is our reputation and our word. We leave little else of consequence behind. The material things we leave behind are disposable, we are remembered for what we did while we were here, not the things we leave behind. Such a shame and a waste, it does sadden me greatly to hear of these things, and especially when it was a shooter and someone I would expect to stand up for what is right, what is just, and what is responsible.

Very sorry to hear that you guys got caught up in such. Take solace that each of you are the better man, and in the end you may loose paper, but if your reputation is intact then it is Peter that will suffer the heaviest loss of all.

Michael

I see that the "moderator" has locked Doc's thread on NitroExpress. Happy to see that Saeed has a pair of balls and does not lock out honest posts.

Nemo, Doc, Michael and ever body else that was involved.
I feel for you guys and hope that some way this thing will be sorted out, and one way or another you will be compensated.
I guess most of us were fooled by this guy and to think that one day I was going to commission him in working on a project for me, well the thought of it makes me cringe.

Justice will catch up with people like this soneer or latter, if it is not the earthly, the heavenly will certainly do and I would not want to be in his shoes when that time comes.

Good shooting / hunting and God's best

Malek

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
I see that the "moderator" has locked Doc's thread on NitroExpress. Happy to see that Saeed has a pair of balls and does not lock out honest posts.

Sorry to hear about all this and hope those that put up deposits are able recoup some money or satisfaction.

I had one similar experience with a supposed Gunmaker and this buddy...these type of individuals take far more than money. As Michael458 mentioned ones word and integrity are far more valuable.

Sad to see the idiot on Nitro Express did not take the time to actually read the accounts of individuals. Seems like any reasonable person would see this goes far beyond rumor......

I would hope the owner of Nitro Express sees this error and corrects the mistake. Seems reasonable to attempt to protect others from a potential SCAM!

DD,think it takes some pretty big cojones to call AR a vigilante justice mob.why did the victims quickly become the criminals& the thief given sanctuary?

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
I see that the "moderator" has locked Doc's thread on NitroExpress. Happy to see that Saeed has a pair of balls and does not lock out honest posts.

To a point it is understandable.
Those to read NitroX forums does come overhere and viceversa...However, Saeed who owns this forum allows business people to advertize with their business, and let customers write good/bad reports about the products etc, to in the end to promote the best, and trash the worst/no good. All this to serve the hunting/shooting community. I believe its only just for all if people who have been let down by conartists, to write about their experiences with the persons/businesses envolved, since the persons envolved also have (mis)used the forum to promote their products with.

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Originally posted by KimR:
DD,think it takes some pretty big cojones to call AR a vigilante justice mob.why did the victims quickly become the criminals& the thief given sanctuary?

+1!

jjs,the owner of Nitro Express is.....NitroX on this site.please refer to the other PeterDK thread in this category on p2 to see his feelings about this travesty& you will understand the response on the NitroExpress site!

I have done quite a few gun deals--I've been screwed twice... Once from Greg Hein...and one I think I'm in the process of, but I'm giving him time to make it right. Sorry for the loss guys. If you make a trip over take video of it, I'd love to see the look on his face.

Ed

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Originally posted by malek:
Nemo, Doc, Michael and ever body else that was involved.
I feel for you guys and hope that some way this thing will be sorted out, and one way or another you will be compensated.
I guess most of us were fooled by this guy and to think that one day I was going to commission him in working on a project for me, well the thought of it makes me cringe.

Justice will catch up with people like this soneer or latter, if it is not the earthly, the heavenly will certainly do and I would not want to be in his shoes when that time comes.

Good shooting / hunting and God's best

Malek

Malek Now you know why i had ammo to sell.

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Originally posted by KimR:
DD,think it takes some pretty big cojones to call AR a vigilante justice mob.why did the victims quickly become the criminals& the thief given sanctuary?

Fellas, Keep in mind that there are more members that were scamed. They are just not making it public.

I called this early on and in private communication with some of the victims I encouraged them to tell all here on AR. They were hesitant, due to the on-going con and hopes of recovering something from their loss. I understand that reaction as it is normal human nature and what the con artist counts on.

I encourage all victims to file appropriate police reports, starting with their local agencies and including the FBI and asking for a referral to InterPol and/or the state law enforcement agency of whichever country Peter is currently in residence. All victims need to pursue this course of action. It is common for the FBI to appoint a designated agent to handle all complaints from all similar victims of a single perpetrator, but someone needs to make the initial complaint and ask them to follow-up.

Alternatively (or in addition), hiring local hometown talent to break both legs of an asshole con-man can usually be accomplished for a surprisingly modest cash payment. Local police tend to be very unsympathetic towards the "victim" in such cases.

Thanks to Nemo, Doc, Chris and Aaron and the others who have stepped up. I do hope all effected parties will do so, as there is nothing to be gained from remaining silent.

Sorry to rain on your parade gentlemen, but I see no chance for recovery. If you do a search for a thread here I posted years ago titled Hein Contact? you'll get the picture. Myself and Howard took this guy to court, won a judgement he agreed to pay then ignored it, has a civil bench warrant issued against him and he is still out there and we are out our money. And this was in the US. I'm out seven grand and the law could care less. jorge

Hey Jorge,

I've been down this road before myself so can't argue with your experience as it mirrors my own. Nevertheless, my personal two reasons for pursuing this are:


1)the slim chance at some sort of remuneration;

2)the hope that by bringing this to light, other honest people like Nemo will think twice before falling victim to Peter als Nerving (or whatever new name he settles on) and others like him.

These people are slick, though. Even after obviously screwing people some of the same victims are lured back in and suckered again.

Sorry that some sources of information choose to ignore the realities of life. That is exactly what these lampreys thrive on - fresh, ignorant victims.

I have been on vacation and been able to read and not reply.

First, to A.Tinkerer, I do not see the need for any victims to share any information with you or the pubilc on an itnernet forum on something that may be both a civil lawsuit at some time and secondly in the pursuit of criminal justice. There are enough credible people on AR here that were taken by Peter, that it should be sufficient. Believe me, it is all real and he by all appearances is a con man and common thief. Peter, I invite you if you are reading this to come on to AR and defend yourself. You will not because you cannot.

I did my best to call Peter out in early March when Aaron and I both received some indications that Peter was not what he portrayed himself to be. Some of you on here quickly called him on one of the good guys, blah, blah, blah. Some posts are now ammended. It would be great if people really knew what they were saying when they said it. From that point on in early March the group affected has gotten together to discuss the next steps. That is all.

Jorge, we quickly recognized that the money stolen would be consumed quickly by legal fees and even if we won a judgement, we would have trouble and a low probability collecting.

Lionhunter, while many will undertand your position about how to deal with Peter, I would like to ask all to refrain from suggesting that anyone affected would make any effort to physically harm Peter. The gentlmen that have been victimized have all stated that they will take the high road in this one and seek to get satisfaction through the Danish Courts. This is meant with the best intents and we all understand your points, just that we all wish to retain our credibility as gentlemen and not thugs. I know this is a public forum and we can say what we will but I am only making this a simple request. Lets avoid the comments on violence.

Some have asked me because a part of this had been to acquire a new left handed double for John Greeff. I want to make sure that you all clearly know that none of the fundraising or raffle were lost in this effort with PeterDK. 100% of those funds went to the Greeffs in a wire transfer. You may contact SMS directly if you want to verify this and talk to Dave Dunn. The money lost to PeterDK was a donation from 3 friends of Johns and myself and no one else. If you were one of those people you know who you are.

In closing, this is a sad day for all of us. There are far too many of them out there (anti-gun and anti-hunters) than there are of us. To have one of our own (presumably) make a clearly planned effort to con and defraud other gun enthusists is the lowest of the low. This was a very convincing scam from the beginning. We should all feel fortunate that he did not take us for more than he did.

All I have to say for now, feel free to take shots at me for my views, but our energy should now be spent on how to make sure that PeterDK cannot do this to anyone else and do our best to support the criminal justice system.

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has a civil bench warrant issued against him and he is still out there and we are out our money. And this was in the US. I'm out seven grand and the law could care less

Jorge, it seems to me that you do not have a failure of "the law", but a failure of law enforcement. If a warrant has been issued what more would you have "the law" do? Seems that law enforcement should be doing their job. Unfortunately they do not seem to worry to much about such warrants, as, for example, going around to the persons house and knocking on the door. Witness our own town where we are informed routinely that an arrested criminal "had an outstanding warrant"!! Seems to me that you have done everything right and just need that last step. Good luck.
Peter.

It's been about three years since the warrant was issued, it is still valid but since it is a civil warrant, you are correct, LE does not actively pursue. Anyhow, water (or money) under the bridge and now I await my VC!