John, I think your buddy Mickey pissed alot of people off when he stated "This is not AR where Vigilante Justice rules".

What a prick!

As an individual interested in acquiring my first double, this information is invaluable. Thanks to all who have posted their dealings w/ this scam artist.
On a much better note, all of my dealings w/ Bailey Bradshaw have been absolutely fantastic. First class all the way.

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
John, I think your buddy Mickey pissed a lot of people off when he stated "This is not AR where Vigilante Justice rules".

But democracy doesn't rule on NE either.

Interesting that a person who got burnt has said that if the info had been available it might have saved him.

Yet I tried to post some info on NE with a link to AR re the Sabatti's so people would find out or be warned and the posts deleted and warnings issued - and I have seen comments from people who purchased Sabs in Aust and got burnt because they didn't know.

Best if all the info disseminated as widely as possible IMHO.

.

I am sorry for everyone that lost money.

It is a risky proposition to buy from a new company in another country that has never produced it's product.

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Originally posted by 500N:

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
John, I think your buddy Mickey pissed a lot of people off when he stated "This is not AR where Vigilante Justice rules".

But democracy doesn't rule on NE either.

Interesting that a person who got burnt has said that if the info had been available it might have saved him.

Yet I tried to post some info on NE with a link to AR re the Sabatti's so people would find out or be warned and the posts deleted and warnings issued - and I have seen comments from people who purchased Sabs in Aust and got burnt because they didn't know.

Best if all the info disseminated as widely as possible IMHO.

.

This is why I stick with the AR forum. People are permitted to always speak their mind. I quit visting the Nitro forum, they dont offer anything that you cant find here.
Thanks again Saeed.

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Originally posted by Snowwolfe:

This is why I stick with the AR forum. People are permitted to always speak their mind. I quit visting the Nitro forum, they dont offer anything that you cant find here.
Thanks again Saeed.

I think you stated it perfectly.

Seems to me that NitroX suffers from a case of "selective reading and comprehension syndrome". The facts are out there and some folks simply don't like admitting publicly that they have been conned and lost money in the process. That shouldn't be too hard to understand and it is what con men count on to continue their scams.

CCMDoc and other victims of this slimball could have been afforded a warning had a victim spoken-up quickly. I warned some victims via PM and encouraged them to go public. Unfortunately they had been convinced by PeterDK that he could/would make things right; of course that never happened and it will never happen. NitroX and his website did no one any good in this instance.

I concur that the information in this thread needs to be periodically bumped to the top, so that other good folk are not victimized by the low-life criminal known as PeterDK.

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by NitroX:
Yes and all I asked for was for the actual persons whom had dealings with the person, and felt they were not satisfactory to post.

If they have done that, well that is a step in a positive direction.

I think it is positive if factual posts are made and hope the unhappy customers find a resolution to their orders.

John,

I am the person who made the post on your website. I assume that since you own your site I am not anonymous to you.

I am one of the victims of Peter als Nerving's fraud and theft. This is stated here on this thread, on the others about Peter als Nerving/Taksdale and on your website.

I am out $4,750.00USD - this is stated here in this very thread by me, the thread to which my post on your site points.

I have ample proof of what I claim - wire transfer receipts, contract, receipt from Peter als Nerving for funds received and email correspondence. I stated as much here and in the very fair and generous post on your site.

Everyone else involved has the same supporting documentation for their experience.

Had a single person posted such information before I contracted with Peter, I would not be out $4,750.00 US Dollars.

What more than Nemo.450's post above and the details that have been posted in this and other threads would you need in a PM?

I am glad you resurrected a two week old thread because good,honest folk should be reminded that not all people are good, honest folk. That was the reason for my post on your site and for Nemo.450's post here. A warning to be careful.

Re-read Nemo .450 initial post, 4th bullet.

Since Peter als Nerving is quite active on his Facebook page and elsewhere on the internet, can you think of any good reason for him to have abandoned those who have paid him so handsomely? This abandonment occurred before any concerns were raised and it was this very issue which triggered the initial concern.

I am happy that the initial post on your site remains visable and therefore serving its purpose. Mickey's response is/was both unfortunate and unecessary. A simple email or PM to me would have resulted in the provision of contact information of the appropriate authorities for verification.

CCMDoc,

Your post on NE was the following:

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WARNING: Peter Nerving/Taksdale
#185378 - 08/07/11 12:26 AM (72.252.208.162)
Edit post Edit

I know many here visit AR. On the hope of saving others from heartache and financial loss I'd like to share the following link which is a very kind summary. At least a dozen double enthusiasts have lost considerable amounts of money for doubles that have never been built with no communication nor refund following deposits.

Here is a link to one thread on the subject. For those who wonder, yes we each have ample proof.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...0101804/m/7791025851

Might be worth sharing in other forums here but I didn't want to cross post. Please share in all of the gun, hunting and horse forums you see fit and be careful fellow double and hunting enthusiasts.

If the post had some of the info you put above in the post above here, I think the result would have been far different at the time.

Personally I had no idea you were a person directly affected as your post did not indicate that.

I did see that post before going off to a shoot, and left it as it was posted. Did not follow up the link though. And did not even look at the net for about ten days at the time. I thought it referred back to the original Nerving thread, not a new one. Did not even know a new one existed until yesterday as don't click on all external links posted up. I believe the moderator made a judgement based on the wording of what was actually written in the NE post.

I made the following post on the thread, and would have made sure factuals allegations would have got an airing. Unfortunately I received one PM on NE with just that sort of info, but unfortunately they wished to not have their comments be posted on a public forum.

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If any member has any specific allegations they should PM or email me.

Similarly, if the individual in question wishes to respond they will get the opportunity.

NE does not want to get in the middle of this however and no doubt all will be revealed in due course.

I hope you find a resolution to your possible loss in this case. Have sent you a PM.

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Originally posted by LionHunter:

I think you stated it perfectly.

Seems to me that NitroX suffers from a case of "selective reading and comprehension syndrome". The facts are out there and some folks simply don't like admitting publicly that they have been conned and lost money in the process. That shouldn't be too hard to understand and it is what con men count on to continue their scams.

CCMDoc and other victims of this slimball could have been afforded a warning had a victim spoken-up quickly. I warned some victims via PM and encouraged them to go public. Unfortunately they had been convinced by PeterDK that he could/would make things right; of course that never happened and it will never happen. NitroX and his website did no one any good in this instance.

How on earth could warnings have allegedly saved these individuals presumably MONTHS AFTER they had paid their deposits? Get real.

Actually Peter Nerving did not post much on NE in the last 18 months in any case.

It is good to see the factual posts by the dissatisfied customers being made however. These are informative to the market place. Hopefully the customers will find some sort of satisfaction through appropriate channels.

Working in Law Enforcement, I have watched this thread with some degree of interest simply because I hate to see folks being taken advantage of anywhere for anything (the hazards of being drawn to the field in the first place). First off let me say that I do not have a dog in this hunt. But I do have a very close friend that is of some importance in the Danish Police force that I have contacted with a general overview of the issues that have been discussed here. I have been in contact with a few of you through PM's in order to see if they are interested in providing to the proper authorities, the information and documentation that they have regarding their personal involvement and or victimization. My friend sent me an e-mail yesterday with the contact information to an investigator that has assurred my friend that once provided with the facts, the situation will be properly investigated.

Bottom line, if you have money on the table in this deal and want to provide all of your documentation to an investigator that works the area where Nerving lives, you need to send it to the investigator below. I would reference Nerving's full name along with a mention that you have been referred to this investigator by Erik Vand. Please be polite and professional as my friend has stepped up to assist me in find the right guy to go to in this deal and I would not want to cause him any grief.

This was the reply I got from my friend yesterday.

Today, I have been in contact with Detective Chief Superintendent, Klaus Munk Nielsen. We have agreed that if you send him the relevant information, Klaus will make sure that the case will be looked into.

Klaus’ contact info:
Klaus Munk Nielsen, Detective Chief Superintendent
E-Detective Chief Superintendent, Klaus Munk Nielsen
e-mail: kmn001@politi.dk
Cell: (+45) 21 21 40 19

Not to be pushy or rude, but it is time to do something or get off the pot. Ball is in your court.

Duke
DRSS
NRA Lifer

ANY offended party:send all your correspondence to&from PAN to Detective Chief Superintendent Klaus Munk Nielsen,kmn001@politi.dk.his cell +45-2121-4019.he is our primary contact& has assured Duke he will pursue this.

OOPS! Duke beat me to it.

Hey Duke, maybe you could help me and a few other guys here with a similar situation here in the US. We have a judgment and civil arrest warrant out for a similar crook in WA state and the law says there's nothing more they can do! I have case number, arrest warrant info, the works. jorge

And NOW the strength of AR becomes apparent! Great move Duke and thanks very much for taking the initiative. Doesn't seem like vigilante justice to me.
Peter.

Jorge, send me a PM with some details. And just as a note to anyone that is going to contact the Danish Investigator, please send them copies of everything you have. They will need to see what they are dealing with and will not take any action on accusations without some paperwork to back it up. Good luck.

Duke

Duke - Thanks for posting the contact info, I also received the same info via the PM's today from a couple guys.

I have been out of town, but have a brief report prepared, and plan to e-mail it to the DK authorities by week's end.

Guys, like I mentioned here before. Numerous AR members sent Peter money, and still with nothing to show for it. I wired money to Peter on Sept. 23rd, 2010. I was to receive my rifle in January 2011, nothing has showed up yet. Same with the other guys! That's just the facts! I have no doubt I will never see my gun, or my money, but I will happily file a report and hope DK serves a little justice.

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Originally posted by 500N:

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
John, I think your buddy Mickey pissed a lot of people off when he stated "This is not AR where Vigilante Justice rules".

But democracy doesn't rule on NE either.

Interesting that a person who got burnt has said that if the info had been available it might have saved him.

Yet I tried to post some info on NE with a link to AR re the Sabatti's so people would find out or be warned and the posts deleted and warnings issued - and I have seen comments from people who purchased Sabs in Aust and got burnt because they didn't know.

Best if all the info disseminated as widely as possible IMHO.

.

Nigel

You better hope Aussies don't start posting on your dealings. Sometimes being holier than thou can bite you in the Ass.

Duke, You Da Man!

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Duke, You Da Man!

+1

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Originally posted by Dukescav:
Jorge, send me a PM with some details. And just as a note to anyone that is going to contact the Danish Investigator, please send them copies of everything you have. They will need to see what they are dealing with and will not take any action on accusations without some paperwork to back it up. Good luck.

Duke

PM sent. thanks!

I hope that you are succesful getting Peterdk to court!

Isn't there any brave Dane here that still has some Vikingblood that could confront Peterdk at his farm and hear what he has to say about the whole thing?

Just found his Facebook page

Interesting that he is boasting about his activities om line there

http://www.facebook.com/peter.nerving

Thanks Londonhunter,

Very interesting information on his Facebook page:

" I am a professional cheater. I have no career and I scam people full time on the internet. I con them out of their savings with stories I made up about my ability to make expensive guns to fund my hobbies and feed my children.

I have no feelings for the honest people I cheated and I cannot give a dam about their families.

I like hunting and horse riding and I have no shame on my behaviour as a professional cheater.

My home address is

"Axelvedgård", Rønnedevej 4 DK-4683 Rønnede Denmark

Even though I am married with children my wife Niicky does not know I am gay.

I am HIV positive as well"

Hmmmm

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Originally posted by husky:
Thanks Londonhunter,

Very interesting information on his Facebook page:

" I am a professional cheater. I have no career and I scam people full time on the internet. I con them out of their savings with stories I made up about my ability to make expensive guns to fund my hobbies and feed my children.

I have no feelings for the honest people I cheated and I cannot give a dam about their families.

I like hunting and horse riding and I have no shame on my behaviour as a professional cheater.

My home address is

"Axelvedgård", Rønnedevej 4 DK-4683 Rønnede Denmark

Even though I am married with children my wife Niicky does not know I am gay.

I am HIV positive as well"

Hmmmm

No Husky, not crazy - but pretty damn sneaky.

One could be lead to believe he has a strong, sarcastic sense of humor and his statements so outrageous as to suggest one should believe exactly the opposite of what he wrote.

Unfortunately most of what is written there is exactly true.

My lord, what an idiot this clown is!!

Paul and others. Not sure about you guys, but I contacted DK Police - Munk Nielsen. He told me that he was NOT the one handling the case, and forwarded me to another LEO? So I emailed the 2nd officer, and the next day I got the same message from him too! "NO", I'm not the guy handling this case, and he then referred me to a 3rd LEO. I have since emailed him, but have yet to get a response! Any of you guys get the same run-around? Man, it appears beaucracy is the same everywhere!!

Aaron,
Same here - I've done everything short of flying there myself. But I never give up ... never.

Expect multiple layers of management along the Danish Police chain of command.


One of those facebook pages is obviously a prank.


Now, especially with DK law enforcement involved, it would be foolhardy to walk up on PeterDK's ranch.
Sit back and let the Danish authority run it's course.



Cheers
Tinker

Yes, one of the FaceBook pages is fake. Hmm, I wonder which one it is...

Klaus Nielsen has referred me to Pia Fenger,pfe002@politi.dk.dont know if refiling is necessary.

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Originally posted by KimR:
Klaus Nielsen has referred me to Pia Fenger,pfe002@politi.dk.dont know if refiling is necessary.

Yep, and Pia referred me to someone else??

OMG,so who is the REAL contact??

Likely someone from Parking Enforcement or similar...

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Originally posted by KimR:
OMG,so who is the REAL contact??

Cheers
Tinker

Guys, wouldn't it simpler if you all threw some money into a pot and hired "a guy" from a nice NJ "family" in the "loan collection" business to fly over and have a little "talk" with Peter? Just tell Peter he wants to put down some money down on a gun and have him meet him in Sicily and make him an offer he can't refuse? Did you mention that Peter has prized horses? Think a minute.

We all hate to admit to been scammed, apart from Peter Nerving who also owes me, I was scammed a few years ago, it went like this.

I paid $5,000.00 to an Argentine person for a nonexistent FG 42. I secured a copy of his Passport and Drivers Licence. He failed to deliver so I went public on different Forums, I offered $1,000.00 cash reward for information leading to his conviction, I posted copies of his Passport, Drivers Licence and home address. Then the fun began, just like Peter it turned out I was not the only victim. I got calls and e-mails from all over the world. Anyway to cut a long story short he phoned me 5 years after the scam as he heard that I had put out a contract on him. He cried and pleaded with me to “call off my dogs” his mother was dying, his girl friend was pregnant and he was unemployed. I told him to pay up or else. Within a week I collected my $5,000.00 from Western Union, just in time for my first safari.

We should not underestimate the power of the internet

So is there another layer under Pia Fenger&what is his contact info?Do i have to refile?

WOW! Is all I can say!

Sure makes Searcy, Owen, Bradshaw doubles suddenly look even more attractive huh!

I hope this works out for you guys.

JW

That bastard cost me and a very good friend roughly ten grand and I had to sell my double to compensate for the loss.

Peter might forget me but I will not nor will my contacts overseas.

Is Peter still advertising his gun business? I know that some sites charge for this privilage. Why would someone take money from a guy and advertise his product after it is known to be a dodgy business?

Follow the money trail......

Would be interesting to start up a thread of "how much Peter has stolen from you". By the sound of it it is quite a sum of money.
Sounds like enough to justify the use of a Debt Collector?

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Originally posted by ozhunter:
Would be interesting to start up a thread of "how much Peter has stolen from you". By the sound of it it is quite a sum of money.
Sounds like enough to justify the use of a Debt Collector?

I have a mate who has a mate in the Congo who is good at collecting stuff owed to others.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by ozhunter:
Would be interesting to start up a thread of "how much Peter has stolen from you". By the sound of it it is quite a sum of money.
Sounds like enough to justify the use of a Debt Collector?

I have a mate who has a mate in the Congo who is good at collecting stuff owed to others.

I could just imagine Almost as(if not more) intimidating than a debt collector from the Ukraine.